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How Disney/Lucasfilm could bring Indiana Jones back

I feel like this worked better on The Jeffersons.
Haven't seen it and don't care to. To each their own.

If we're approaching it from a "hospital show" POV, I generally find them boring. Zzzzz..... House is the only one that captured my attention, and I ended up watching all 8 seasons.
Until a hospital show as people shooting at other people while operating I think I'll stick with MASH. Though, there was that one episode of JAG...

This is helpful. I love "commentary" films, but I find this dreadfully boring in "weekly series" format.
If you find MASH boring I would genuinely have no idea what to tell you.
 
What serials? :shrug:
Ai-yai-yai.
I don't care.
Neither do we. But just the same, I didn't kill my wife, as I've never had one. I'm married to my job.
Dude, word to the wise: it's against the rules to say you're putting someone on ignore. It's more productive to move on and not engage.
If only. I though it was more ''frowned on'' than officially a rule-breaker.
Given MASH is about doctors more than anything else (right?), I'd rather watch House. :D
There are five doctors or less in any single episode. There are also many more nurses, patients, officers, and many enlisted men, though only one chaplain.
It's literally about doctors and Vietnam, am I wrong?
Not literally Vietnam. The original film was meant to give it a Vietnam feel. The last TV episode referenced Vietnam for five seconds.
I watched the clip, but it doesn't really resonate with me much. It's not the subject of the scene, I think maybe it's how it's presented with the actors, lighting, overall production? Hard to articulate. The only thing I ever felt from MASH was boredom. I just don't get it.
Quadruple ai-yai-yai times ten.
 
I watched the clip, but it doesn't really resonate with me much. It's not the subject of the scene, I think maybe it's how it's presented with the actors, lighting, overall production? Hard to articulate. The only thing I ever felt from MASH was boredom. I just don't get it.

What do you think makes the show so emotionally punchy for lack of better words?
Just to give a bit of context, the entire scene was unscripted, Gary Burghoff was the only one who knew what was going to happen, so all of the reactions you see are genuine, improvised reactions.
 
While there are several viable ways to revive the Indy character and the franchise, I think the failure of Dial of Destiny will put any of them on hold for a good long while. :( Speaking for myself, I never actually finished it and I was so looking forward to it.

It pains me to say it, but I feel as if we are looking at the eventual franchise reboot, starting fresh with an actor that has a fraction of Harrison Ford's charisma, directed by a director with a fraction of Steven Spielberg's talent.
 
It pains me to say it, but I feel as if we are looking at the eventual franchise reboot, starting fresh with an actor that has a fraction of Harrison Ford's charisma, directed by a director with a fraction of Steven Spielberg's talent.
You may find it controversial, but I don't find too many outstanding roles played by Ford post-AIR FORCE ONE with perhaps two exceptions: his return as Han (in a shameless NEW HOPE homage-fest) and his second appearance as Rick Deckard (in an inventive sophisticated sequel which got only moderate grosses). But he could have played Hanks role in SAVING PRIVATE RYAN or even had a MUNICH cameo and I would have wholeheartedly approved. It's been documented Ford turned down Michael Douglas' role in TRAFFIC.* If only he'd said no to EXPENDABLES 3 and not have the gall to say the line ''I've never had so much fun.'' Or cash, possibly.

*(Later he starred in the structurally-similar ensemble drama CROSSING OVER, though few got to watch it.)
 
While there are several viable ways to revive the Indy character and the franchise, I think the failure of Dial of Destiny will put any of them on hold for a good long while. :( Speaking for myself, I never actually finished it and I was so looking forward to it.

It pains me to say it, but I feel as if we are looking at the eventual franchise reboot, starting fresh with an actor that has a fraction of Harrison Ford's charisma, directed by a director with a fraction of Steven Spielberg's talent.
The problem isn't lack of interest, the problem is that Disney's been making bad movies for the past 10 years. :eek:
 
Just to give a bit of context, the entire scene was unscripted, Gary Burghoff was the only one who knew what was going to happen, so all of the reactions you see are genuine, improvised reactions.
While it's true that Burghoff was the only one who knew (apart from Alda, who had been told beforehand) none of the reactions are their real unfiltered reactions to new information because it's actually the second take of the scene that we see in the finished episode. (According to Larry Gelbart they went with the second take because of the unplanned moment when someone drops an instrument on the floor.)

What was Indy doing during the Korean War?
Not being in the war, apparently. (For at least half of it anyway) We see him in 1950 in Young Indy and 1951 in Dial of Destiny just livin' his life in the grand ol' U.S. of A.
 
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While it's true that Burghoff was the only one who knew (apart from Alda, who had been told beforehand) none of the reactions are their real unfiltered reactions to new information because it's actually the second take of the scene that we see in the finished episode. (According to Larry Gelbart they went with the second take because of the unplanned moment when someone drops an instrument on the floor.)
I didn't know that, I just knew that it wasn't in the script.
 
The problem isn't lack of interest, the problem is that Disney's been making bad movies for the past 10 years. :eek:
I'm not certain about your doubt in the lack of interest part' Indiana Jones was a novel concept in 1981--a period where Lucas could repackage a form of storytelling not seen in 40 to 50 years, so it seemed fresh, and had the most serious kind of story for a character of that kind. The problem is that the novel concept was successful, but competing with a moviegoing culture who--by the 1980s--were obsessed with sci-fi and loud, violent action movies, and if one adds in the appeal of action set in times which resemble your own, it was quite attractive. That cannot be said of adventure films forever stuck in the 1930s (I'm referring to the OT Indiana Jones).

Those who record the history of film lazily sing the praises of the IJ films as successes for Lucas and Spielberg, but if one looks closely, they would see a pattern where, despite the reputation of Raiders and its creative team, the sequels were not the overwhelming success of Raiders--in fact, 1984's Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom ranked 2nd in the global box office behind Ghostbusters, while 1989's Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (aka "one of the good ones") was outperformed by Batman. Some will argue that the appeal or fresh nature of the high earners has something to do with their beating Lucas / Spielberg movies, but again, I believe the culture--the moviegoing culture did not find the sun-baked, dusty, old world of Indiana Jones as appealing as two high-fantasy films set in then-current times.

This perception likely carried over into IJ's not too stellar ancillary market performances as well. For a George Lucas-related example, Kenner's Star Wars line of 3 3/4 inch action figures / playsets ranked as one of the biggest toy successes of the 20th century, yet the manufacturer's The Adventures of Indiana Jones line of similarly scaled action figures / playsets was an underperforming flop, despite the heavy marketing campaign for the line based on Raiders's theatrical success.

Then, there was Marvel's Star Wars comic book, which ran for 107 monthly & 3 annuals issues from 1977 to 1986. While the SW comic ran out of creative gas not long after 1983's Return of the Jedi marked the then-advertised "end" of the SW saga, it had a healthy run for a movie adaptation. The same could not be said about Marvel's The Further Adventures of Indiana Jones monthly comic, running for only 34 issues from 1983 to 1986, with its final two years on a bi-monthly published schedule. Again, there was an established pattern regarding the perception of Indiana Jones as an appealing property, where the once-in-a-generation creative might of Lucas and Spielberg was not enough to win the pop-cultural Gold Medal where IJ was concerned. Whether in film, comic books or toys, IJ never had the wide, demographic crossing power of a Star Wars, or new film concepts breaking through in the 1980s, arguably speaking to core interests in a more effective manner than IJ.

The post OT-IJ films fared no better, had more appealing competition, and were viewed as largely disappointing with a side order of "why was this produced?" Every film concept--no matter how popular (or believed to be popular) runs its course. Indiana Jones finished his in the 1980s, and even at his pop-cultural height, most of his filmed and merchandised product was not the runaway game-changer, nor did it leave moviegoers actively calling for more.
 
Looks good. The story seems more intriguing than the one of Dial of Destiny.

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While the STAR WARS comic ran out of creative gas not long after 1983's Return of the Jedi marked the then-advertised "end" of the SW saga, it had a healthy run for a movie adaptation.
If memory serves, the very month after Darth Vader died in the comic, Han and Leia decided ''Let's try to save Boba Fett.'' And on the last page that month, Boba fell right back where they pulled him out of. :borg:
 
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If memory serves, the very month after Darth Vader died in the comic, Han and Leia decided ''Let's try to save Boba Fett.'' And on the last page that month, Boba fell right back where they pulled him out of. :borg:

That plot was from Star Wars #81, ("Jawas of Doom") from 3/1984. It was not even a year removed from ROTJ in the theaters, and the comic had to literally dig up Fett. The best thing about that issue was the cover. That said, even with low points such as the Fett issue, the Star Wars comic was still able to carry on for some time while the Indiana Jones comic was one dry, floundering tale of disinterest after another.
 
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