What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[StarTrek1701]

Reason?

It may be my 21st cent. way of thinking but people dying without a proper grave just doesn't sit right with me.
Even in TOS episode Galileo Seven one officer wouldn't leave until their dead comrade had a proper burial.
For people having vaporizing ability so easily one would think people's ideals would change by then.

 

[Tallguy]

I thought the TNG cast were notorious for hijinks.

Legend has it that they would be joking and screwing around right until the moment someone said "action". It drove some directors nuts. (Stewart Baird being a notable example.)

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

- vaporising weaponry like high-power hand held phasers and disruptors should be banned.

Yeah, that's not happening.

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- photon torpedos should have on-shot capabilities against any other starships

I have a different torpedo that will be the "One-Shot, Sure Kill" Torpedo.
It's the Artificial Micro Quantum Singularity Torpedo AKA "Red Matter Torpedo" AKA "Black Hole Torpedo".
Remember the "Red Matter" that was used to create the Artificial Micro Black Hole in ST 2009, they had giant containers of that stuff, now imagine one little drop used in special Torpedoes that can Phase Cloak & Time/Dimensional Shift to be Slightly out of phase with our Universe, and then DeCloak / Detonate when it's inside the enemies Vessel.
It'll be programmed with special AI to avoid being intercepted and to find a way to phase into the inside of a ship and "Detonate".

One-Shot instant kill, nothing left of the ship, no rubble, no wreckage, the target is JUST GONE!

It'd be a "Trump Card" or "Ace Up your Sleeve".

{Break Glass in case you're invaded by "The Borg" or a fleet equally as terrifying & dangerous}

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- we should see more ship designs than the same stuff kitbashed over and over.

Agreed, there should be more designs, but it still has to make logical sense based on in Universe Mechanics & logic, not just Willy/Nilly slap stuff together.

There are Design Rules & Reasons for most good StarFleet Ships.

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It may be my 21st cent. way of thinking but people dying without a proper grave just doesn't sit right with me.
Even in TOS episode Galileo Seven one officer wouldn't leave until their dead comrade had a proper burial.
For people having vaporizing ability so easily one would think people's ideals would change by then.

There are still ways of honoring the dead w/o traditional burial ceremonies.

My family / people prefer cremation over burials.

 

[Lord Garth]

I was for Bring Back Kirk in the mid-to-late-'90s and very-early-'00s. I changed my stance in 2002 but NOT because of anything anyone said here at the time. I changed my stance because William Shatner no longer looked like Kirk when he died. He looked too different. As simple as that.

But now that technology allows for Shatner Kirk to look like he did during Generations and move forward, I'm back in the camp of Bring Back Kirk.

If the story works, and as long as there's permission, I'm for it.

This is the part where a ton of people disagree with me, but that's why it's a Controversial Opinion.

 

[James Cole]

I was for Bring Back Kirk in the mid-to-late-'90s and very-early-'00s. I changed my stance in 2002 but NOT because of anything anyone said here at the time. I changed my stance because William Shatner no longer looked like Kirk when he died. He looked too different. As simple as that.

But now that technology allows for Shatner Kirk to look like he did during Generations and move forward, I'm back in the camp of Bring Back Kirk.

If the story works, and as long as there's permission, I'm for it.

This is the part where a ton of people disagree with me, but that's why it's a Controversial Opinion.

Back in the day I was very much on the TNG side of TOS vs TNG. TNG was what got me into the franchise. TNG was easily accessible in strip syndication. Whereas TOS was dated, only rarely aired on TV in my area, was something I mainly knew about from reference books and novels, and the TOS purists were Annoying Online. Now that TOS is far more easily accessible, the lowest lows episodes easily skippable, and the dated 60's vibe has aged enough to be retro-cool, I have a much more favorable opinion of TOS proper.

But either way, objectively GEN did Kirk (and the Enterprise-D for that matter) dirty. Shatner obviously had an issue with it, and the Kirk resurrected novels definitely had a market.

Bringing back Kirk, provided it was done with the care of the OTOY short, could easily be an 80/20 win. Especially for the fans with the emotional investment in legacy Trek.

What were the three greatest fails of the Berman Era?
NEM -- PICARD season 3
TATV -- seems like a when not if that the end of ENT eventually gets retconned and reframed
GEN -- already "something" is in play with Kirk

It's taken a few decades, but already 2 out of 3 are getting addressed.

 

[Tallguy]

I'm happier with Pine and Wesley than with a re-animated Shatner. I wish Star Wars would get this hint. (Seriously, Millie Bobby Brown is RIGHT THERE!)

 

[fireproof78]

I'm happier with Pine and Wesley than with a re-animated Shatner. I wish Star Wars would get this hint. (Seriously, Millie Bobby Brown is RIGHT THERE!)

Same. It's not any disrespect to recast. It's ok to bring in new actors to carry forward.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

After seeing previous results of recasting I'm glad it's done so rarely. We were very fortunate with Ewan McGregor.

 

[Tallguy]

After seeing previous results of recasting I'm glad it's done so rarely. We were very fortunate with Ewan McGregor.

I have NEVER seen the original Hamlet. And don't get me started on that Sherlock Holmes guy.

I will say again: Either these are timeless characters or they are just a single performance.

 

[Daedalus]

Back in the day I was very much on the TNG side of TOS vs TNG. TNG was what got me into the franchise. TNG was easily accessible in strip syndication. Whereas TOS was dated, only rarely aired on TV in my area, was something I mainly knew about from reference books and novels, and the TOS purists were Annoying Online. Now that TOS is far more easily accessible, the lowest lows episodes easily skippable, and the dated 60's vibe has aged enough to be retro-cool, I have a much more favorable opinion of TOS proper.

But either way, objectively GEN did Kirk (and the Enterprise-D for that matter) dirty. Shatner obviously had an issue with it, and the Kirk resurrected novels definitely had a market.

Bringing back Kirk, provided it was done with the care of the OTOY short, could easily be an 80/20 win. Especially for the fans with the emotional investment in legacy Trek.

What were the three greatest fails of the Berman Era?
NEM -- PICARD season 3
TATV -- seems like a when not if that the end of ENT eventually gets retconned and reframed
GEN -- already "something" is in play with Kirk

It's taken a few decades, but already 2 out of 3 are getting addressed.

Now, don't threaten me with a good time, will ya?

 

[fireproof78]

I have NEVER seen the original Hamlet. And don't get me started on that Sherlock Holmes guy.

I will say again: Either these are timeless characters or they are just a single performance.

It's acting. I'm sorry but that's just what it is. Yes, Shatner and Nimoy are iconic. Recasting doesn't devalue or take away from that aspect. TOS doesn't decrease because of SNW's daring to exist. Pine doesn't tell Shatner that his performance is subpar by it's mere production.

It's absolutely absurd to me that recasting should be questionable.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

We're in a situation right now where a performance can last for decades. You don't recast Hamlet in the middle of the play.

 

[fireproof78]

We're in a situation right now where a performance can last for decades. You don't recast Hamlet in the middle of the play.

In theater you can recast in the middle of a show's run. Lots of reasons. Theater doesn't balk at it if the need arises.

And that ignores my larger point that recasting doesn't diminish the original performance. Case in point: thus far, Anson Mount is proving to be fairly popular as Captain Pike. Does that diminish Jeffery Hunter and his contribution?

If not, then extend the same principle to every other Trek performance.

 

[Nerys Myk]

We're in a situation right now where a performance can last for decades. You don't recast Hamlet in the middle of the play.

Sure you do. That's why you have understudies.

I'm also reminded of a stage version of Frankenstein where Benedict Cumberbatch and Jonny Lee Miller would switch the roles of the Doctor and the Monster every other performance.

I've been watching various performances for decades. On TV and at revival houses long before tape, disc and digital. "Last for decades" is hardly a new thing.

 

[1001001]

I have NEVER seen the original Hamlet. And don't get me started on that Sherlock Holmes guy.

I will say again: Either these are timeless characters or they are just a single performance.

I have said many times, these arguments are like saying the first guy who played Romeo in the 1600’s is the ONLY guy who should ever play him.

It’s ridiculous.

 

[Commander Troi]

(Seriously, Millie Bobby Brown is RIGHT THERE!)

Damn. I hadn't thought about it before, but you're totally right!

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I have said many times, these arguments are like saying the first guy who played Romeo in the 1600’s is the ONLY guy who should ever play him.

It’s ridiculous.

I don't think anyone has ever claimed that only one person should've ever played Romeo.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I don't think anyone has ever claimed that only one person should've ever played Romeo.

"is like"

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

The way I see it, you don't recast Christian Bale for the Christian Bale Batman films, you don't recast Tom Holland for the Tom Holland Spider-Man films, and the Star Trek Prime Universe is the William Shatner universe. There's also a Chris Pine Star Trek Universe and that's good too.

 

[Nerys Myk]

The way I see it, you don't recast Christian Bale for the Christian Bale Batman films, you don't recast Tom Holland for the Tom Holland Spider-Man films, and the Star Trek Prime Universe is the William Shatner universe. There's also a Chris Pine Star Trek Universe and that's good too.

Nah.