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Spoilers All Things STAR WARS - News, Speculation & Spoilers Thread

Turtletrekker said:
Luke's story is clearly done. There might be some untold stories in there somewhere, but those would be best left to novels and animation. After the response to Solo they're not going to recast the character, so they can't go back, and there is nowhere to go with him moving forward.
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Kirk's story ended with Generations. Obi-Wan's story ended with RotS. Batman's story ended with TDKR, James Bond's with No Time to Die, and Wolverine's with Logan. Hell, Sherlock Holmes' story ended with "The Final Problem," published in 1893.

And yet, somehow, all their stories go on.

If you don't want any more Luke Skywalker stories, that's cool; you do you. But if you don't think there's narrative and fiscal potential left in that fictional character, and that millions of casual fans/audiences wouldn't want to see more of him... that's solipsism and dogma, plain and simple.

As for recasting? It worked for Obi-Wan, and Donald Glover seems to still be in the mix. If Disney/the next Lucasfilm CEO/whichever executive decides that the time has come to recast Luke (assuming deepfakes/AI still aren't up to the task and widely accepted by then), they'll go for it.
 
JD said:
I don't know, the failure of Solo might have scared them off from recasting any other members of The Big Three.
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Definitely so. And then they did the whole CGI thing with Luke in BOBF and Mandalorian so they are clearly shying away from recasting, unfortunately.
 
I liked Solo. :shrug: It was a lot of fanwank crammed into a two-hour movie but it ended up being a lot more entertaining than I had expected. The production mess with Lord and Miller just made my initial worries worse, but Ron Howard came in and crafted something fun out of that tattered production. It's not Rogue One nor really close, but I liked it more than the Sequel Trilogy entries.
 
Donald Glover helps sell that movie even more effectively than Ehrenreich, and Alden actually did a superb job given the pressure he was under. My favorite lines in the whole movie are these. It's a popcorn flick, but one of the good Disney Star Wars movies.

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cooleddie74 said:
I liked Solo. :shrug: It was a lot of fanwank crammed into a two-hour movie but it ended up being a lot more entertaining than I had expected. The production mess with Lord and Miller just made my initial worries worse, but Ron Howard came in and crafted something fun out of that tattered production. It's not Rogue One nor really close, but I liked it more than the Sequel Trilogy entries.
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I thoroughly enjoyed Solo and would rate it higher than TROS or even Rogue One depending on my mood.

I just think Lucasfilm learned the wrong lesson.
 
cooleddie74 said:
I liked Solo. :shrug: It was a lot of fanwank crammed into a two-hour movie but it ended up being a lot more entertaining than I had expected. The production mess with Lord and Miller just made my initial worries worse, but Ron Howard came in and crafted something fun out of that tattered production. It's not Rogue One nor really close, but I liked it more than the Sequel Trilogy entries.
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The could have tried to save some wank for a sequel.
 
JD said:
I don't know, the failure of Solo might have scared them off from recasting any other members of The Big Three.
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It'd be a risk, sure. But if Lucasfilm projects keep failing, there may come a point where not doing so becomes the clearer, bigger risk.
 
fireproof78 said:
I think the PT did the Jedi a disservice in terms of showing them as peacekeepers. Now, that's largely the narrative set up with Palpatine already manipulating everything, but it shows them in a much more negative light. They either come across as incompetent, or stupid. So, it's rough to feel sympathy for them some times.
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Its called bad writing just to push the ultimate goal of the Empire's formation / Vader's "birth", two events that did not require the Jedi to be portrayed as dimwits who sit around being confused or indifferent.



Skywalker said:
too complacent with their manufactured reality that the Sith were gone forever, and didn't see the truth until it was too late.
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The Sith had been extinct for 1000 years, so the Jedi were justified in believing their #1 enemy was dead and buried. 1000 years is a very long time; just think of any real life army, individual or government that has been considered dismantled or eliminated for 1000 years and running--its doubtful anyone in 2024 has reason to be on the lookout for or suspect this government or enemy is coming back.
 
TREK_GOD_1 said:
The Sith had been extinct for 1000 years, so the Jedi were justified in believing their #1 enemy was dead and buried. 1000 years is a very long time; just think of any real life army, individual or government that has been considered dismantled or eliminated for 1000 years and running--its doubtful anyone in 2024 has reason to be on the lookout for or suspect this government or enemy is coming back.
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When the druids come back people are going to be like "I did not see this coming"
 
TREK_GOD_1 said:
The Sith had been extinct for 1000 years, so the Jedi were justified in believing their #1 enemy was dead and buried. 1000 years is a very long time; just think of any real life army, individual or government that has been considered dismantled or eliminated for 1000 years and running--its doubtful anyone in 2024 has reason to be on the lookout for or suspect this government or enemy is coming back.
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Then how did Yoda and Mace Windu know about the two Sith tradition that wasn't instituted until after the Sith were supposedly destroyed?

At least some of the Jedi Council knew the Sith were still out there in some form, as The Acolyte was starting to show us. Shame it got canceled before it could finish filling in those blanks.
 
Skywalker said:
Then how did Yoda and Mace Windu know about the two Sith tradition that wasn't instituted until after the Sith were supposedly destroyed?
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If you're strictly talking about concepts introduced in 1999 in The Phantom Menace, the dialogue would lead one to assume they knew of the rule of two all along, before the Sith were defeated.
 
Turtletrekker said:
At that point they'd be better off doing a complete reboot and starting from scratch, which I would have little interest in.
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I don't think there should ever be a complete reboot. I could see an alternate timeline take on the post-RotJ period, but to start from scratch - no. Not even the Terminator franchise, which went so far as to erase freaking T2 in Genisys, didn't dare to completely reset everything, as in re-do T1.

Nor do I think making a one-off Shadows of the Empire movie, and potentially building from there if it's successful, would be in any way comparable to a complete/from-scratch reboot. But, hey, that's my two cents. :shrug:
 
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