Instead of many new shows, would TV movies be a better choice for Star Trek?

[Nerys Myk]

Yeah, and at the rate they are building them, probably not until the war is halfway over.

Wars change things. Even before it entered WWII the US was gearing up for war. And after it declared war it went full force into war production.

 

[HotRod]

Wars change things. Even before it entered WWII the US was gearing up for war. And after it declared war it went full force into war production.

Yep. I like to think Starfleet started a program similar to the Liberty and Victory ships of WWII. Might be what birthed the Daedalus class. Modular design. Cheap and quick to build. Nothing fancy, but gets the job done.

 

[somebuddyX]

I said this one before but I always thought it would be fun if they had random one off episodes or tv movie events every so often, just as a surprise for the Trek crowd. I compared it to the Fifth Week event in comics. I would use existing sets or work around it somehow, like could they hire out sets from some of those fanfilms? I would have made an episode of "Assignment: Earth." I have wanted a film or episode set in real time, where it's like some evacuation but it's just talking heads on screen like "Searching." Or it's "Operation Retrieve" where you do a multi ship battle but it's just repainting the same set like Enterprise/Reliant, and it's a couple of actors with extras filling the bridges. This was all in the name of fun though. It's not meant as a serious argument for or against.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

I said this one before but I always thought it would be fun if they had random one off episodes or tv movie events every so often, just as a surprise for the Trek crowd. I compared it to the Fifth Week event in comics. I would use existing sets or work around it somehow, like could they hire out sets from some of those fanfilms? I would have made an episode of "Assignment: Earth." I have wanted a film or episode set in real time, where it's like some evacuation but it's just talking heads on screen like "Searching." Or it's "Operation Retrieve" where you do a multi ship battle but it's just repainting the same set like Enterprise/Reliant, and it's a couple of actors with extras filling the bridges. This was all in the name of fun though. It's not meant as a serious argument for or against.

Legally, they can't use fan-built sets, I'm pretty sure. I don't want anthologies myself. I'd rather focus on one ship and crew per series.

 

[Shamrock Holmes]

Really?

I'm pretty sure they've used fan-built assets before, though I'm not certain if they've ever used a full bridge set before.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

They definitely rented a replica captain's chair and helm console for Relics.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

Really?

I'm pretty sure they've used fan-built assets before, though I'm not certain if they've ever used a full bridge set before.

This has only happened a few times in the whole franchise as far as I know.

TNG: Relics - The TOS bridge set was a partial rebuild. The chair and helm/navigation was on loan from a fan.

TNG: All Good Things... - The model for the USS Pasteur was on loan from a fan. It was his original creation. I am not positive, but that's what I remember.

ENT: In a Mirror, Darkly - I seem to remember some of the sets were fan reproductions for fan films and that they were shot on to save money. I think this is the only time this happened.

 

[Dukhat]

Legally, they can't use fan-built sets, I'm pretty sure.

Yes they can.

This has only happened a few times in the whole franchise as far as I know.

TNG: Relics - The TOS bridge set was a partial rebuild. The chair and helm/navigation was on loan from a fan.

TNG: All Good Things... - The model for the USS Pasteur was on loan from a fan. It was his original creation. I am not positive, but that's what I remember.

ENT: In a Mirror, Darkly - I seem to remember some of the sets were fan reproductions for fan films and that they were shot on to save money. I think this is the only time this happened.

So then why did you say they can't use fan-built stuff and then post instances where they did just that?

(And BTW, the Pasteur wasn't built by a 'fan.' It was built by Bill George, who was the modelmaker from STIII who built the Excelsior.)

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

Yes they can.



So then why did you say they can't use fan-built stuff and then post instances where they did just that?

(And BTW, the Pasteur wasn't built by a 'fan.' It was built by Bill George, who was the modelmaker from STIII who built the Excelsior.)

#1 Can you explain how this works given there's a lot of legal red tape regarding TV and film production?
#2 I made a general statement, not an absolute one. Forgive me if I was not clear.
#3 In "Relics," it was two set pieces. In the TNG finale, it was a spaceship miniature model. In the ENT two-parter, this was the only time full sets were used in an episode. My understanding is that this was a "special exception" kind of situation to save money.
#4 Thank you for this. I found the story on Memory Alpha.

 

[Dukhat]

#1 Can you explain how this works given there's a lot of legal red tape regarding TV and film production?
#2 I made a general statement, not an absolute one. Forgive me if I was not clear.
#3 In "Relics," it was two set pieces. In the TNG finale, it was a spaceship miniature model. In the ENT two-parter, this was the only time full sets were used in an episode. My understanding is that this was a "special exception" kind of situation to save money.
#4 Thank you for this. I found the story on Memory Alpha.

CBS/Paramount owns Star Trek. If some fan made a Star Trek bridge set, they can absolutely ask that fan if they could use it. The only reason why they usually don't use fan stuff is because they actually have set designers, model makers, etc. whom they pay to make that stuff for them.

 

[dmac]

Something I played with once. I always wanted to write a story in the Trek universe that would follow the adventures of either a Klingon or Romulan crew.
I mean, how many times can we relive the adventures of the Federation? I'm not talking about fan films, I'm talking about Paramount, a billion dollar production company that can't seem to be able to recreate a new and improved Capt. Kirk (there can be only one)
Since Potemkin already worked in the Klingon verse it only seemed natural.

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[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

Something I played with once. I always wanted to write a story in the Trek universe that would follow the adventures of either a Klingon or Romulan crew.
I mean, how many times can we relive the adventures of the Federation? I'm not talking about fan films, I'm talking about Paramount, a billion dollar production company that can't seem to be able to recreate a new and improved Capt. Kirk (there can be only one)
Since Potemkin already worked in the Klingon verse it only seemed natural.

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I would actually love a TV movie set entirely on a Klingon ship, add 2 or 3 human characters for casual viewers to relate. It'd be like Worf on TNG, but slammed in reverse.