The Kelvin stuff was also riding off TOS nostalgia...
Stylistically it's closer to the Kelvin stuff absolutely, but both are based around the nostalgia of TOS...
Instead of many new shows, would TV movies be a better choice for Star Trek?
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The Kelvin stuff was also riding off TOS nostalgia...
Stylistically it's closer to the Kelvin stuff absolutely, but both are based around the nostalgia of TOS...
After finally completing Prodigy, I feel like a YA- centred Trek show might actually work, but it absolutely needs mature co-stars to work correctly.
The audience, other than teens, will need to be able to give a shit about these kids through the eyes of someone who knows what they are doing. Otherwise it'll just turn into pubescent garbage.
This should be the first NuTrek series that shouldn't need to piggyback off the success of a classic Trek show, so I hope don't need to rely on...*pulls name out of a hat*..Ben Sisko and the Prophets to try and make this show interesting.
Yeah. I am 100% NOT one of the "anti-fan-service" people. I love it. I want more... BUT it doesn't always need to be that. SFA is probably better suited without cameos and all that, or for some reason making Picard relevant to the 32nd century again.
Yeah sure I want things familiar to the setting because... otherwise why bother making it Star Trek, but we don't need specific call backs to old stories. Like sure, have Cardassians be around. But I don't need to hear about Dukat. Have a Denobulan, but don't reference Phlox.
References are still fine, but do they more subtle. The Academy itself should have quite a few references around just due it's nature, so yeah like have a Galaxy-Class in a painting on a wall. That makes sense.
You could write, storyboard the most awesome space adventure EVER, take it to the studio, they love it and have you sign over the rights so they can make your adventure come true.
Next week they call you up and explain they are going to add a 1960's Batman theme and captain Zorro to it. Just to make it more acceptable to a wider audience (investors)
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Next week they call you up and explain they are going to add a 1960's Batman theme and captain Zorro to it. Just to make it more acceptable to a wider audience (investors)
It's just the way it is, the way it was and the way it will always be.
So support you local fan film studio and create it your way.|
I'm down for more Star Trek, but let's not make too much all at once, you don't want to stretch production too thin. Since Enterprise ended, we've had the reboot trilogy, Discovery (ended), Short Treks (kind of just ended when Picard came out), Picard (ended), Lower Decks (ending soon), Prodigy (too late to renew?), and Strange New Worlds (the one series I haven't started yet - soon).
It seems where the studio wants to go is more SNW, Starfleet Academy in Disc's S3-5 distant future timeframe, a Section 31 film set in the "lost era" between TUC and TNG.
I don't want more "just because," but I do want Star Trek to continue.
How do you do a Romulan War movie without the NX-01 due to the actors being too old to play themselves just after the show ended back in 2005? Honestly, a Legacy tele-movie might be a better move, test the waters to see if there is interest in a series. I'm down for prequels, but I feel like there's just not much to do between First Contact and Enterprise. First Contact shows the first warp flight. Enterprise NX-01 was the first to reach Warp 5. In the S2 flashback episode "First Flight," Archer and Trip were part of the team that broke the Warp 2 barrier, reaching Warp 2.5 The Beyond movie revealed the Franklin, the first ship to break the Warp 4 barrier. What's left to cover?
Feature new characters and a new crew. In the real world, crews are reassigned all the time, people get promoted, experience gets rewarded, and people move on. Families change over time: children grow up*
So, why not put it on a different ship? The Romulan War needs hardly be fought by the Enterprise after all. You could have first officer Stiles if you really wanted to pull the connection back to TOS (unneeded).
The Romulan war literally begins right after ENT S4, so why go for TOS connections when it makes more sense to be a sequel to Enterprise? How would you do the show or movie without NX-class ships, Starfleet's crown jewel and best chance at fighting the Romulans?
A new ship. *Shrugs in DS9*
And what is stated on screen that the war begins so soon after?
But that's literally what a Romulan War show/movie will be. ENT S4 is 2154-55. The UFP is founded in 2161. So, if you're doing the Romulan War, it's literally n Enterprise sequel or spin-off.
I'm down for a new ship, but I'm curious as to how they handwave why we don't see the NX-01.
I've always heard the Romulan War was the 2150's and why the Federation formed in 2161.
Exactly. Do something new with it. Life does not revolve around ships named Enterprise. Show actual character progression or change or moving away from Starfleet.
Do something interesting with a new ship.
Yes, but what's the actual information we know from on screen evidence?
You hand wave it however you want. If you like, you pull a DS9 and show a Romulan ship cripple the NX-01 to show this is serious.
Have Archer as an admiral or what have you and using his knowledge to build a better ship.
Or Archer is using the NX to gather support for the alliance while the Intrepid is taking it to the Romulans.
Imagination; it's a beautiful thing.
So, Maybe?
The Enterprise NX-01 with Archer, T'Pol, Trip, Malcolm, Hoshi, Travis, and Dr. Phlox all stayed together until the ship came home to mothball in 2161 in time for Archer to make his speech at the signing of the UFP charter. It's Starfleet's biggest, fastest, toughest Starship along with a few other NX-class starships.
That's simple. They literally only had two NX Class ships built by the end of season 4.* By the time the war started, maybe they had a 3rd. Starfleet, wishing to protect their expensive and difficult to build starships, kept them out of the war whenever possible, choosing to fight the war with simpler, easier to build ships, such as the Daedalus or Freedom Class ships.
Or.
Starfleet, wishing to not give the Romulans a chance at a propaganda victory, kept the NX-01, possible the Flagship, out of combat. They did the same thing with the 1701 during the Klingon war.
You really need to start using your imagination.
*not counting TATV.
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The NX-class ships were capable of Warp 5. Everything else was Warp 2 or 3.
I do like the idea of keeping the NX-01 close to home to keep Earth safe.
Still, Earth Starfleet was only like maybe 10 ships.
I assume they are working on other ships that can use the Warp 5 engines. ( and beyond)The NX-class ships were capable of Warp 5. Everything else was Warp 2 or 3.
I do like the idea of keeping the NX-01 close to home to keep Earth safe.
Still, Earth Starfleet was only like maybe 10 ships.
Yeah, and at the rate they are building them, probably not until the war is halfway over.
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