DS9 doesn't have engines in the traditional sense, just station keeping thrusters and whatever impulse thrusters that were used "that one time" at the end of "Emissary."
Starship Museums: why?
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They must have tugs and other ships that can move these docks around. Or they could just be warp capable all by themselves.
Prior to PIC S3, I always understood them to be immovable. You want this space station from planet A to planet B? Build a new one at planet B, retire the one at planet A.
It's 20 years from TOS to TSFS, and we know Pike had the ship for 10 years before Kirk thanks to "The Menagerie," so the ship is 30 years old, 40 if you count TAS. As of 1984.
I don't recall an episode establishing that.
A goof and reference to the age of the franchise.
Henc why I said, "always understood," because prior to PIC S3, a space station had never been relocated in Star Trek before. Am I wrong here?
Never being shown is different than not being possible.
If moving a space station from one solar system to the next were possible in Star Trek why was it not a thing until PIC S3?
Again, just because it's never been previously shown doesn't mean it's never happened or impossible. Unless the show specifically says "this is the first time this has happened!" it not the first time.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, I think it's stupid. A lot of stuff in Picard I love, like, or tolerate. Moving Spacedock was just dumb and shouldn't be possible. Is this sci-fi or space wizards?
It's scifi. The whole idea is that they can build things above and beyond what we are capable of today, but are quite simple for them. I don't see the issue with utilizing large enough engines to move a space station. It may simply be impractical, or, just simply that they had been not in the habit of doing so, likely because removing a base would indicate that the place no longer needed the base.I guess what I'm trying to say is, I think it's stupid. A lot of stuff in Picard I love, like, or tolerate. Moving Spacedock was just dumb and shouldn't be possible. Is this sci-fi or space wizards?
Not sure why it needs to be space wizards. And even if so, we have magick in Star Trek, as well as beings who are nigh omnipotent in their powers. Yet a space station having an engine is too far?
Yes, for me, it breaks suspension of disbelief. Technology has to have limits, it can do A and cannot do B, and so on. A space station is a space station, it's not a starship, and it shouldn't be movable, except maybe slowly around a solar system, but certainly not to the next solar system over. Space is big.It's scifi. The whole idea is that they can build things above and beyond what we are capable of today, but are quite simple for them. I don't see the issue with utilizing large enough engines to move a space station. It may simply be impractical, or, just simply that they had been not in the habit of doing so, likely because removing a base would indicate that the place no longer needed the base.
Not sure why it needs to be space wizards. And even if so, we have magick in Star Trek, as well as beings who are nigh omnipotent in their powers. Yet a space station having an engine is too far?
If space stations can be warped away, why did the Cardassians abandon Terok Nor and Emok Nor?
Why would it be "Space Wizards"? They have the technology to move large objects from place to place. Nobody cast a spell or opened a portal. It either moved under its own power or was towed using forcefields and tractor beams. Very SF.I guess what I'm trying to say is, I think it's stupid. A lot of stuff in Picard I love, like, or tolerate. Moving Spacedock was just dumb and shouldn't be possible. Is this sci-fi or space wizards?
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How? It's an object in space. It's not physically tied to one place. And as I mentioned, it can be towed by starships. Nothing about Star Trek's tech says this is impossible.
Equipment and facilities get abandoned by retreating forces all of the time. Often because of the time table involved. The Armistice may have even requested that certain facilities be left for the Bajorans to use.
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