Did they ever fix that on the more recent Polar Lights’ re-releases of the AMT kit?Hmm. Looks like the first-generation AMT model kit is not the only Enterprise model that suffers from nacelle-sag.
Did they ever fix that on the more recent Polar Lights’ re-releases of the AMT kit?Hmm. Looks like the first-generation AMT model kit is not the only Enterprise model that suffers from nacelle-sag.
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/star-trek-uss-enterprise-model-fraud-lawsuit-2488443Well that’s weird. Why sue the auction house? The auction house did the legally required due diligence to determine rightful ownership and that they were not dealing in stolen merchandise.
What is their claim against the auction house?
Actually, AMT fixed it sometime in the late 1970s. The last one I built (and fitted with lighting, including flickering nacelle lights on a rheostat), when I was in high school, had the revisions. The main deflector dish had been reshaped, the original removable secondary hull bow-end (removable for access to a battery in the earliest iterations) had been redesigned, as had the Bussard collectors, and the nacelle stern-ends, to match the series configuration of the 11' model.Did they ever fix that on the more recent Polar Lights’ re-releases of the AMT kit?
Huh... This was the last thread I ever expected to experience "Godwin's Law".Id love a lawyer to weigh in. From my position of ignorance, it seems with this information that the ownership still resided with Roddenberry. Hence the reason the auction house had no choice but to return “stolen” merchandise. Not unlike a lot of art stolen by the Nazis during ww2. Wonder if the folks who bought the storage locker got a “finders” fee
Sorry, I wasn’t trying to compare any of the actors Involved to being Nazis, but rather the last that I recalled any artwork to which was obtained through questionable circumstance that was that of looted …or displaced….was artwork during the last world war. I suppose I could have referenced the Elgin marbles, but that’s a bit farther back vis a vis relevant legal timeframe . if you are aware of more recent, and relevant , cases regarding ownership of art ….do share.Huh... This was the last thread I ever expected to experience "Godwin's Law".
I've got one: as I understand it, nobody knew for decades where the hero X-wing fighter miniature was, until Greg Jein died and it was found in his garage.if you are aware of more recent, and relevant , cases regarding ownership of art ….do share.
Wow. I did not know that. Thanks for sharingI've got one: as I understand it, nobody knew for decades where the hero X-wing fighter miniature was, until Greg Jein died and it was found in his garage.
Not sure what the real story is there, but it's more similar to the disappearing 33-incher than some old marbles.![]()
Id love a lawyer to weigh in. From my position of ignorance, it seems with this information that the ownership still resided with Roddenberry. Hence the reason the auction house had no choice but to return “stolen” merchandise. Not unlike a lot of art stolen by the Nazis during ww2. Wonder if the folks who bought the storage locker got a “finders” fee
Wow….thats a nice paydayI do believe the storage unit guys got $500k for their trouble.
That sounds high to me. Like, more than the model might have brought at auction, unless the tech billionaires were bidding.I do believe the storage unit guys got $500k for their trouble.
Yeah. I don't remember where I read it. Definitely in an article from earlier this year. I'm not sure if they got the money yet. I would think though that the model would fetch well above 500k. I mean it is a huge part of scifi history. It's in the opening credits of the most famous sci fi show ever. It won't go to auction. But I bet if it did it would fetch at least 1mill.That sounds high to me. Like, more than the model might have brought at auction, unless the tech billionaires were bidding.
So whose pocket did it come out of? It's hard to imagine "Rod" Roddenberry tossing that kind of cash around.
Gene Roddenberry took the 33-inch Enterprise with him to the Tricon Convention in Cleveland, in September 1966. This was days before the NBC premiere, and long before there was such a thing as Star Trek conventions. It was the famous event where Gene showed "Where No Man Has Gone Before," followed by his black & white print of "The Cage." The Time Tunnel pilot and Fantastic Voyage were also shown at that Tricon. Allan Asherman was there and he wrote it up in The Star Trek Compendium.The droop is there early on, where I guessed it was neglect/water damage at first.
Maybe during that unprotected time is when the shuttlebay doors go missing?Gene Roddenberry took the 33-inch Enterprise with him to the Tricon Convention in Cleveland, in September 1966. This was days before the NBC premiere, and long before there was such a thing as Star Trek conventions. It was the famous event where Gene showed "Where No Man Has Gone Before," followed by his black & white print of "The Cage." The Time Tunnel pilot and Fantastic Voyage were also shown at that Tricon. Allan Asherman was there and he wrote it up in The Star Trek Compendium.
There are photos from the con (not in the book). Some show the 33-incher on display, completely unprotected, with fans milling around it. The nacelles are a mess, not parallel to the secondary hull, but hanging at crazy angles. Even by the time of these pre-airdate snapshots, the model had already taken a beating. But two years later in "Requiem for Methuselah," and years after that on Gene's desk, the nacelles look okay.
So the 33-incher was damaged and repaired early on, and probably more than once during it's pre-disappearance lifetime.
Traveling with Roddenberry to Ohio, getting knocked around en route or at Tricon, and then traveling back to Hollywood, I'm sure some little pieces could fall off unnoticed. Some of the intercoolers (the aft nacelle do-dads) are visibly missing in "Requiem for Methuselah," along with the bay doors.Maybe during that unprotected time is when the shuttlebay doors go missing?
I wonder when Rod is gonna give an update on the model. It's been since April now since he said what his plans were.
Nothing can happen until the lawsuit is resolved. The storage unit buyers are still the legal owners at this time.
Anyone know where the court case is, in the process?...most recent I can find is from May of '24...Who has possession of the model?
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