I think I saw the episode about that captain. Living Witness, right?
Judging by the fury you hold toward later Trek, and the specific point you think Voyager went downhill, I think I've deduced exactly what episode you're talking about.
Fair Haven.
I must admit that I hardly remember
Living Witness. I haven't watched it since the beginning of the 2000's. I quit watching Voyager after Kes was dumped. Did an attempt to start tre watching it again in 2001 by renting VHS tapes from a store who did rent such tapes (fully legal, I must admit) until I had caught up with the current episodes back then in season 6.
I just remember that it was a confusing story about events from the past, sort of "let's re-write history so that it looks like Seven was in the show from the start."
My disappointment when it comes to later Trek series has nothing to do with my disppointment when it comes to Voyager. Note that I've given series like ENT, DSC and PIC a fair chance first and dismissed them after a few episodes when I didn't found them likeable at all.
And no, it wasn't
Fair Haven, even if that one was incredible boring.
No, he doesn't mean Fair Haven.
He mean an episode that totally destroyed a character we both like very much. A character that embodies all that Star Trek should represents.
He means Season 6 episode 23.
Truer words has never been spoken or written!
Ah, yes... "FURY".
It's definitely on my list of worst episodes for VOY. Honestly, I put as the worst for a bit. Over time, a couple others took the spot as worst, until "UNIMATRIX ZERO" ended up taking the spot as worst of VOY for years. (Also on the very short list of worst in the franchise.)
Not only the worst of Voyager episodes but the worst episode ever made in any TV series. Utterly crap and utterly character destruction. It should be erased from all future DVDs, streaming services and future media.
Of course not. Lynx naturally meant "Spirit Folk".
Unfortunately your reply is incorrect.
However, that episode was as boring as
Fair Haven.
Possibly, possibly not.
I disliked Mulgrew in the part, not that she was a woman. Over on DS9 Kira was fantastic as a senior officer.
Voyager had problems with the writing and with the interesting part of the format being sidelined. Plus I didn't like some of the other cast members.
However, it was still Trek and enjoyable. I own it (along with the other shows) on disc.
I liked Janeway in the early Voyager episodes, despite certain episodes when she became abit out of line. I liked the fact that she did care for each and every one of her crewmembers and due to the pressure she was on, being a leader for a mixed crew on a lost ship.
However, she became weird in the later seasons and not so likeable.
Back in season 1 and 2, I found her better than Picard and Sisko in some aspects. She wasn't as wooden as Picard sometimes was and I hadn't seen that much of Sisko after only watching one season of DS9. He came out as a bit moody in season 1.
All that due to stupid policy from a TV channel I had back then which dumped DS9 after just one season, I didn't have the opportunity to watch the whole of DS9 until in later years and by doing so found out how great it is. However, I took a liking to Kira already in season 1. Great character!
And Sisko became my favorite captain when I finally got the chance to see the whole DS9 series!
Honestly? I think it would have made for a better plot for Kes overall if it was revealed that in the future some awful catastrophe befell the Galaxy and it was future Kes rather than Admiral Janeway who came back to change the past and her time traveling was due to her future massive mental powers.
All the contrived coincidences in Voyager, because of Future Kes making sure they were always there to fix stuff that would become problems in the future if left alone.
I would have been happy without any "Future Kes's" and all that time traveling, alternative universes. All that just give me headaches.
It would have been better with the Kes we had in the first three seasons of Voyager.
Kes already had a good ending... with "THE GIFT".
She ascends and helps Voyager by sending them 10 years closer to home.
There was no need for her to return.
First of all, she should never had been dumped from the series.
Second,
The Gift was a lousy episode too, almost as bad as that horrible crap episode in nseason 6. The whole story in The Gift is thin and unconvincing, made in a haste just to get rid of the character as soon as possible. I wonder if the "writer" wrote it on the toilet or during a short break for lunch.
If it was absolutely necessary to dump her, she could have left with that Zahir in Darkling and maybe returned later on in the series to rejoin the crew. Such a solution would have been much better than the energy being mumbo-jumbo in
The Gift. That episode should have been named
The Curse instead. Because it was!
For me, Voyager ends there and then!
Kes shoud have returned at the end of the series and stayed with the crew.
In fact, my story
Coming Home which is the best Voyager episode never done deals with that in a much better way than
The Gift and
the crap episode in season 6. It restores Kes back to what she should have been and mends the damage made to the character which was made in
The Gift and
the crap episode in season 6.
Indeed. Only two things I liked about "FURY"... we get an explanation for why Wildman was pregnant for a year and a half, and we got to see the Vidiians one last time. (Best race VOY ever made, and one of the best in the franchise.)
There is nothing likeable in that episode.
Wildman's pregnancy could and should have been explained already back in season 2. The Vidiians were good, I admit that. But just as the Kazon, The Voth and other interesting species in the first three seasons, they were left behind in their area of the Delta Quadrant. No need to bring them back for that lousy excuse for a Star Trek episode.
Just reminding you that we do have a sense of humor.
