Regardless, it is meant as ours whenever they time travel.It is very different than our world. I struggle to remember the DY class interplanetary craft of the 1990's.
What has the new series done to ruin Star Trek this time?
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Khan's backstory is he's a "superman" who took over a third of the world in a conflict called "the Eugenics Wars". He was defeated and escaped in a space ship equipped with suspended animation. That's the important part. The 1990s and the 2020s are irrelevant to that. They have no impact on who he is
In Trek those ships definitely exist. Trek by its very nature is an alternate timeline where fictional events comprise all of our history post-wherever the audience is at any given moment in the present.
"But DY-100s didn't really exist in the 1990s so that's just not right and not fair to viewers." Wrong. Fiction by definition is about stuff that either never happened or won't or even both. If someone's enjoyment for a piece of fiction requires a book. movie or TV series to adhere as closely to the real world as possible then they're the ones with the problem that ought to be corrected, not the work of fiction.
"But DY-100s didn't really exist in the 1990s so that's just not right and not fair to viewers." Wrong. Fiction by definition is about stuff that either never happened or won't or even both. If someone's enjoyment for a piece of fiction requires a book. movie or TV series to adhere as closely to the real world as possible then they're the ones with the problem that ought to be corrected, not the work of fiction.
Irrelevant to you. He would have grown up with different technology, made different relationships, been exposed to different world events. Those should all be important to what he becomes.
Someone in another thread pointed out that Buddy Hackett was born a hundred years ago, today. Would he be the same person if he was born in 1974 vs. 1924?
He'd probably be cancelled today. 
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He's probably be cancelled today.
He's a podiatrist in San Diego, now.
Khan fictional character who's life experience is formed by people making stuff up.
Buddy Hackett real person who's life experience is formed by life.
Those characters are formed by the life experiences of the people creating them. If I expect a real person to be different based on when they were born, I'm going to hold fiction to that same standard.
He was cancelled in 1957 when his show was pulled mid-season.He's probably be cancelled today.
Indeed.
The character is more important than the date. Which is how Trek has regularly worked.
Hell, VOY's writers couldn't even decide on a date for Tuvok's birth until Season 3, when it was established he was 29 years old at the time of Star Trek VI. Before then he hadn't yet hit "triple digits" in age despite him already being over 100 when VOY began.
Do we have another instance where they moved an entire characters backstory fifty years, then claimed it is all the same?
The people writing Khan in the 1960s had no experience of the 1990s, fictional or otherwise. If anything Khan was formed by people who lived through the 1940s. Khan is a reflection of ideas formed in the 19th and early 20th Centuries.
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Not sure I'm seeing the problem. I mean, if he's the same character, then he should also reflect those ideas formed in the 19th and early 20th centuries.
A multiverse allows both versions to exist, and the original to exist unchanged as the writer's intended.
I think Chekov in Kelvin Timeline is my immediate go to.
Thank you.
Again, to me there is always a certain amount of malleability to a fictional character and their history because they are often written not in light of current historical events or tech they would grow up with but the writers view of what type of character they want.
I think @Greg Cox has written about this even recently.
He does. He's still a megalomaniac who feels he was born to rule based on genetic superiority.
They moved it five years, and it is an alternate timeline.
He's still supposed to be the same.
Yup.
The date is not important and moves with the times.
The whole point of an alternate timeline, is that they aren't all exactly the same.
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