I think Tribbles was inspired by the Heinlein story.
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I think Tribbles was inspired by the Heinlein story.
Given Heinlein considered legal action I'd say one had greater influence.
Aha! It's more complicated than that. Per Wikipedia:
I've always thought that was an astonishing coincidence.Anyone else tickled by "Kellam de Forest"?
Everyone’s arcs were satisfactorily completed in Star Trek 4
everything that came after was unnecessary
including but not limited to Kirk's death in Generations and Spock’s out-of-nowhere obsession with reunifications both with the Klingons in six and the Romulans in TNG (and his issues with his father that were also resolved in four somehow were revived also in TNG)
I really hope Sela got him eventually and has him in a dungeon somewhere on Romulus, hanging by the wrists like the old Don Martin's Mad magazine cartoons
TNG also ended greatly in all good things there was no need for the movies
everything that came after was unnecessary
including but not limited to Kirk's death in Generations and Spock’s out-of-nowhere obsession with reunifications both with the Klingons in six and the Romulans in TNG (and his issues with his father that were also resolved in four somehow were revived also in TNG)
I really hope Sela got him eventually and has him in a dungeon somewhere on Romulus, hanging by the wrists like the old Don Martin's Mad magazine cartoons
TNG also ended greatly in all good things there was no need for the movies
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I think it was intended to be a 'Kate' show from the beginning (the first series with a female captain!), Doc was more of a breakout character, and Seven was brought in to boost the ratings (so not too surprising the show focused on her).
Agreed except for the Romulan dungeon part. Not sure why the wish for such a wonderful character to experience a terrible fate.
I kind of disagree.
STV did something *amazing* with McCoy. Dealing with his father's death was one of the best character moments he ever had and is reason enough (for me) for that movie to exist.
STVI is an epilogue. We see Kirk and Spock being their new normal in the world. And it's a great send-off for the entire crew.
GEN is... necessary. Kirk was never going to die in his sleep at home.
Spock working on the cause for peace with the Romulans is inspiring to me now that I'm where I am in life. It's the "third act" in one's life. Instead of quietly waiting for death somewhere, Spock finds new purpose and shows he has something still to give in his later years.
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All of this.
All of this.
I agree with everything @Commander Troi said. Also,
I enjoyed Scotty's fish out of water story in "Relics."
And learning in GEN that Sulu had made the time to have a daughter was very cool.
There could be a couple of other odds and ends that we're better off having, too.
I enjoyed Scotty's fish out of water story in "Relics."
And learning in GEN that Sulu had made the time to have a daughter was very cool.
There could be a couple of other odds and ends that we're better off having, too.
They should have never touched that with a ten foot pole. Those types of things are never satisfying and can tarnish the brand. Shatner was in his, what early 60's? He had plenty more left in him and the franchise would've likely benefitted by keeping him around, in some form.
Generations felt like they were trying to bury the past. Destruction of the TV Enterprise, killing off Picard's family, the death of Kirk.
I think they were already mining from the past TOS movies. Death of family and the destruction of the Enterprise are both from TSFS. Killing off a major character from TWOK. Villain with a weapon of mass destruction also TWOK.
I know they didn't have the budget, but something like Yesterday's Enterprise would have been a better mine.
I know that TWoK is a great movie, very enjoyable, but I'm tired of people trying to replicate it or its characters. It is time for the writers and Paramount to let Khan go.
GEN isn't a very strong movie narratively speaking but it does have some beautiful moments, and the fact that the TOS crew basically said goodbye for good in 1991 sort of limited how often you could drag Kirk and company back into future stories without totally diluting the impact of the sixth film's sendoff. Scotty showed up one more time, Kirk dies in this film and Spock resurfaces in the Kelvin Timeline where he's dead by the third of those movies.
I get why Kirk's in this and appreciated the sentiment even if it's executed in a rushed, sort of hamfisted manner. Malcolm McDowell turns what could have been a lifeless one-note villain into a slightly more memorable antagonist and one with a sympathetic life story, and the Enterprise-B sequence and the Dennis McCarthy soundtrack are amazing.
What comes between the apparent sacrifice of Kirk aboard the Enterprise-B and the end credits is a mixed bag, but it's a guilty pleasure movie.
I get why Kirk's in this and appreciated the sentiment even if it's executed in a rushed, sort of hamfisted manner. Malcolm McDowell turns what could have been a lifeless one-note villain into a slightly more memorable antagonist and one with a sympathetic life story, and the Enterprise-B sequence and the Dennis McCarthy soundtrack are amazing.
What comes between the apparent sacrifice of Kirk aboard the Enterprise-B and the end credits is a mixed bag, but it's a guilty pleasure movie.
If CBS Trek has taught me anything, it is that you are almost always diluting a property when adding to it. So, I'm not sure I see Kirk being alive as a problem.
Without Kirk making it to the Enterprise-D bridge to save the day, the movie will always feel lacking to me.
Generations moves along pretty well, until they hit the Nexus, then the wheels come off.
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