How much "realer" can you get with 2d animation outside of high-def anime? The closest after that is photorealistic CGI before you get to Live-Action
A TNG Animated Series?
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I could see anime working very well, or an anime-inspired Western Animation. But in general I'd be happy if the animation is fluid, pleasing to the eye and colourful/interesting (so they'd def have to get rid of those awful, grey uniforms and introduce a couple visually interesting aliens to the cast, like TAS did)
Yeah, as a fan of animation I would not want that. It would probably animate not that well, and look (in my opinion) creepy.
I'm a fan of fluid, traditional animation and for that you just have to get more cartoony/simple.
Then again, I'm generally not that interested in continuing old series, in animated or any other form.
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I don't need a series. I think an animated movie would be a nice tribute to TOS.
That is very unlikely to happen (a TOS animated series, or Shatner being involved with any Star Trek production, much less that.)
The reason why it’s very hard for me to take a show like Lower Decks seriously (besides its juvenile nature, unfunny jokes and constant memberberries) is that the animation is just not realistic. It’s the difference between considering something a ‘cartoon’ as opposed to an ‘animated series.’ LDS is very cartoonish. Prodigy is not. So for me, the quality of the production is just as important as the story they’re trying to tell.
While a series like this could be interesting for a moment I think it would be hard to take it seriously because there's already a live action version of it which it would be based on.
I am 1000% okay with that.
Something like we got for the Adam West Batman in the form of animated movies would be pretty fantastic.
Either way, we still have 3 of the voices, and we are running out of time.
Takei already lent his voice to LDS.
Koenig already lent his voice to PIC.
Shatner is not going to lend his voice to anything, because his ego will not allow him to do mere voice work.
Except he has done animated voice work, playing Two Face in the Adam West animated Batman movie.
Yes, the other two are doing voice work.
That is my point.
Now or never.
Shatner has REPEATEDLY said he is willing to do Trek, even WANTS to do Trek, but not for a bad story, or no reason, or just a cameo. A TOS tribute movie centered around him, and you think he wouldn't do it? Lol.
Yes, the other two are doing voice work.
That is my point.
Now or never.
Shatner has REPEATEDLY said he is willing to do Trek, even WANTS to do Trek, but not for a bad story, or no reason, or just a cameo. A TOS tribute movie centered around him, and you think he wouldn't do it? Lol.
OK, I was unaware of that. I stand corrected. Has he done any more voice work since 2017 when this project happened?
My point was that Takei and Koenig have already lent their voices to current Trek productions. You are making it sound like their only reason for existing is to do more of that, when the reality is probably that they are just fine with some voice cameos and not some whole series based around them.
Anything centered around him, he would do. Except nobody is producing anything like that, and nobody ever will, because nobody in charge of making Trek is interested in having him be the star. Not to mention that, you know, Kirk died in Star Trek Generations.
Do you just really not want more Shatner Kirk, and will go out of your way to make up reasons to deny it?
Animated series can be set at any time period. Kirk dying in Generations..... so?
Picard Season 3 also showed him in some kind of stasis or storage, right next to a Genesis II torpedo.
Why wouldn't anyone be interested in having him be the star? You know the people in charge of making Trek, and the new people that may be involved in the coming era? You can personally state that nobody producing anything would do that, and nobody ever will. That is pretty definitive and final statements. Please quantify this.
And the discussion has already gone from series to tribute movie, which is kind of just like a big one time cameo.
Shatner was in a feature length movie in 2021, he isn't retired, he still tours all over the place. He's not dead yet.....
I don't care about it as much as you apparently do. If they made a show with Shatner, I would watch it. If they didn't, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. But you don't seem to be thinking in reality. Shatner's Star Trek days are behind him.
You'd have to ask the people in charge of Star Trek productions for the last 30 years since Star Trek Generations last showed him, because they haven't felt the need to have him be the star.
The uncanny valley is still very much a thing, and it's even more problematic with subjects that are familiar in live action form.
Traditional animation solves that problem by staying far enough away from being realistic.
I don't care that much for animation in general either.
But when it comes to TOS, TNG, DS9 and VOY I could actually accept animation if it could keep those series alive with new exciting adventures for our favorite characters.
It would solve the problem with characters whose actors are dead, too old and not want to do it anymore
Much better than stupid "re-makes". Who would like to see other actors replace Shatner, Stewart, Frakes, Brooks and the others? Just the thought of some Melissa Tyrelips trying to be Kes in a future series breaks my heart.
Not to mention that almost all remakes are so incredibly bad. I've watched some episode of the Re-make Walker Texas ranger and Magnum just out of curisity and they were so bad that I turned them off after about 20 minutes. The new actors were so terrible.
How much "realer" can you get with 2d animation outside of high-def anime? The closest after that is photorealistic CGI before you get to Live-Action
This is becoming more what I want!
Could be great with some further improvement.
Ah, I understand now. Okay 3D animations is more your style then.
Yeah, Its jarring to hear a different voice coming from that character. I watch a lot of anime, especially dubbed anime, with long runners sometimes one or two of the voice actors would drop out and are replaced with new voice actors. The effect is just like in live action where an actor is swapped/recasted with a new actor.
That's fair but then the animation route is really not one for you. I think if it's animated, then the animation should take advantage of the medium,and not stick as close to the real world as possible. But I'm saying that as an animation fan.
I'd just prefer new exiting adventures with new exciting characters who then can become my new favourites.
And I'm not sure whether it counts as "remake" but I think SNW is excellent. I think Celia Rose Gooding is doing an excellent job as Uhura, for example, same for Ethan Peck as Spock.
As for the other actors you mention...I wouldn't care if somebody "replaced" them, my problem is more that I want to see new characters.
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The voices is a big problem which can be hard to solve.
And personally I can't stand when actors are replaced or certain characters are swapped/recasted with a new actor. I've seen some downright horrible examples of that.
If an actor quits or dies, then it's better to write out the character from the series. But not necessary kill off the character because if the actor is still alive and well and want his/her job back or the fanbase demands it, then we are faced with rthe "Bobby Ewing syndrome".
I just want my favorite series and favorite characters back. If animation can solve that in a most realistic way, then I'm all for it.
I haven't ben able to watch all of SNW yet but I mightactually like a series with new characters set in the TOS era. But when it comes to classic TOS characters played by new actors.............well, that makes me cringe.
I found it hard to accept the new actors in the NuTrek movies. I remember that I constantly re-named the "movie Kirk" Thomas Kirk because he looked like a classmate I once had in school whoce name was Thomas. In fact, I have an unfinished story in which a Starfleet Officer named Thomas Kirk shows up, a grand-grandson to James T.Kirk.
As for new series with new characters, well I rather see a series set in the 24th century with new characters all of them than some "re-casted" characters from TNG, DS9 and VOY.
Unfortunately the skill to come up with good characters and good stories seems to be totally gone now. I remember that I was pleased when PIC showed up and what did we get................
I agree, I think it is pointless to recast already established characters especially when the TOS is available to watch on bluray and stream. Why revisit TOS with the original crew when you can make a new crew and stories that don't step on the toes of the TOSThe voices is a big problem which can be hard to solve.
And personally I can't stand when actors are replaced or certain characters are swapped/recasted with a new actor. I've seen some downright horrible examples of that.
If an actor quits or dies, then it's better to write out the character from the series. But not necessary kill off the character because if the actor is still alive and well and want his/her job back or the fanbase demands it, then we are faced with rthe "Bobby Ewing syndrome".
I just want my favorite series and favorite characters back. If animation can solve that in a most realistic way, then I'm all for it.
I haven't ben able to watch all of SNW yet but I mightactually like a series with new characters set in the TOS era. But when it comes to classic TOS characters played by new actors.............well, that makes me cringe.
I found it hard to accept the new actors in the NuTrek movies. I remember that I constantly re-named the "movie Kirk" Thomas Kirk because he looked like a classmate I once had in school whoce name was Thomas. In fact, I have an unfinished story in which a Starfleet Officer named Thomas Kirk shows up, a grand-grandson to James T.Kirk.
As for new series with new characters, well I rather see a series set in the 24th century with new characters all of them than some "re-casted" characters from TNG, DS9 and VOY.
Unfortunately the skill to come up with good characters and good stories seems to be totally gone now. I remember that I was pleased when PIC showed up and what did we get................
Then what you want is not animation.
Or at least, if you’re making something with the intention of it looking exactly live action and you wanna go realer, realer, realer… Surely at some point it makes more sense to just do it for real?
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