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What is your personal head canon?

If they are "making something for fans", odds are I don't want anything to do with it. Going back to the "Valentine for the Fans" that was "These are the Voyages". I want new ideas brought to Trek, not a bunch of stuff that plays like recycled fan fiction.
That would be nice, yes.

The trend seems to be "please the fans" rather than excite the audience.
 
Was "These Are the Voyages" fan service?
I don't think many wanted to see Riker and Troi in the Enterprise finale.
 
True, and I suspect that it is this year that will make or break the current roster of Trek shows (SNW, Lower Decks, Prodigy [which allegedly did super-well on Netflix] and Academy).
Well Lower Decks is already done, last season already announced.

Strange New Worlds will be interesting, though I don't imagine it goes past 5.

Prodigy: who knows?

Academy: Can't wait!
 
Well Lower Decks is already done, last season already announced.

Strange New Worlds will be interesting, though I don't imagine it goes past 5.

Prodigy: who knows?

Academy: Can't wait!
Prodigy has supposedly been canned too, with no S3 green-lit. But it's doing great on Netflix, and there is a #SaveLowerDecks movement gaining traction. A strong S4 showing may change minds at the studio.

I don't agree that there is enough demand for Academy. Disc was very divisive and I'm fairly certain they'd prefer to make Trek with less fandom drama baggage.And there's still #StarTrekLegacy to consider.
 
I don't agree that there is enough demand for Academy. Disc was very divisive and I'm fairly certain they'd prefer to make Trek with less fandom drama baggage.And there's still #StarTrekLegacy to consider.
Selfishly, I have wanted an Academy series for 20 years. I got a Pike series, for the most part, so Academy is fine by me, even if I'm an audience member of one. Discovery baggage be damned.

Legacy would be an interesting experiment, in my opinion. Even with the demand for a Pike show, and SNW coming up, it's hardly a slam dunk in my view.
 
The concept of TATV (Riker hanging out with ENT holograms), with a few tweaks (instead of the beginning of the Federation, the beginning of NX-01's mission), would have worked better as an ENT pilot, perhaps.
 
Selfishly, I have wanted an Academy series for 20 years. I got a Pike series, for the most part, so Academy is fine by me, even if I'm an audience member of one. Discovery baggage be damned.

Legacy would be an interesting experiment, in my opinion. Even with the demand for a Pike show, and SNW coming up, it's hardly a slam dunk in my view.
Picard S3 was one of the service's best shows and garnered several award nominations. Legacy would be produced by the same team, presumably.
 
The concept of TATV (Riker hanging out with ENT holograms), with a few tweaks (instead of the beginning of the Federation, the beginning of NX-01's mission), would have worked better as an ENT pilot, perhaps.

That's the thing with the episode. There's really nothing with the idea of the episode... it's actually a neat idea, allowing a prequel to interact with prior material in a somewhat inventive way. By and large it really doesn't seem like the concept was the problem. The execution was the problem.

I don't think it needs to be the pilot or the finale. Tweak the episode to be some random historical event of note that NX-01 was there for, which Riker is dicking around in the holodeck playing, and it's Archer's actions that inspire Riker to confront Pressman.

You don't need Trip dying, time jumps, etc.

How?

Bring back TNG cast? Tuvok?

More mystery boxes?

Borg?

Seven, Jack, the general setting, the continuation of at least some of the characters journeys...
 
That was the magic of Season 3?

So yes, a good part of "the magic" of Season 3 was the last ride of the TNG crew. Absolutely.

However, it wasn't the only thing. There was also perhaps a more accurately labelled "magic" that is harder to define in that Picard S3 "felt" more like Star Trek than much of what has come of the new era. That was NOT because of the TNG crew.

Picard S3 actually felt like a continuation of Star Trek. Not an update, not a reimaging, not a "visual update", not a Trek in spirit, not a "new direction". It felt like a modern continuation of the TNG/DS9/VOY world that so many of us enjoy.

For Legacy to be successful, no it couldn't rely on doing what S3 did. That was always going to be a one-shot. It CAN, and SHOULD have some sprinkled in... there's no reason Admiral Riker wouldn't show up from time to time, or for Commodore La Forge to show up on occasion. I would probably sprinkle them somewhat conservatively, but absolutely exist.

Legacy could scratch the itch that Prodigy and Lower Decks do in part... many Star Trek fans want something that is a continuation of the world we like. I'm all about new stories and new ideas... of course. I want that. I want those new stories and new ideas, set in the world of Star Trek that I like.

People are different, but when I like something, I tend to like all (or most) of it. I don't like Star Trek because it's in space and there are ships and people doing stuff in space. That's a part of it. I also like the "stuff" of Star Trek. I want to see Star Trek ships that look like Star Trek ships because that's what I like. I want to see things familiar to the world because that's the world I like.

I don't know people seem to have some mental block that prevents "new ideas" from occurring in the established universe. You can do both. It's actually not that hard.

I can equate it to something else. I'm a huge Ghostbusters fan. The "magic" of Ghostbusters are very much the original 4 guys. However... I also very much enjoy the two newer movies. The original guys were there, sans Harold Ramis. The "world" was clearly the same. It was a continuation of the thing I like, clearly set in the same world with the same things, but new stories that also had new characters and situations.

That's what I want.
 
However, it wasn't the only thing. There was also perhaps a more accurately labelled "magic" that is harder to define in that Picard S3 "felt" more like Star Trek than much of what has come of the new era. That was NOT because of the TNG crew.
I'm hard pressed to agree. Most of the positive vibes I get is people liking when the Enterprise-D showed up.

Otherwise, well, the rest felt like Season 1 to me.

I thought that Season 3 was a good continuation of post Nemesis, just like Season 1 though. They felt the same to me.

No, by giving us exactly what we've been asking for: the adventures of the Enterprise-G under Captain Seven.
That's what's being asked for?

Genuine question. I see so many different things, but I don't think that was the part of Season 3 that stood out, that led to the awards, that created the buzz or the magic.
 
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