Star Trek XIV: What do you want?

[fireproof78]

think the movie would be most interesting by somehow tying it back to the first one, with some more direct consequences of what had occurred there now creating issues. Maybe riff on the deleted scenes of Nero and the Narada having been captured by Klingons for 20 years, which can also bring in shades of Into Darkness with gearing up for that war Admiral Marcus wanted. Add in a dash of Beyond, with maybe Kirk going rogue or something, because... idk... the Federation was going to abandon a colony world (hell, maybe Yorktown?) to avoid a conflict with the Klingons, but Kirk goes on a stand about how they can't do that.

Honestly, my idea is that Kirk becomes commodore of Yorktown after getting together with Carol and they start of life there. A threat pops up with the Klingons loosing several ships to this weapon, and them deciding to pull out all the stops to destroy it. Kirk takes a task force to investigate and discovers a Klingon ship based on the Narada tech dealing with the Doomsday machine.

 

[evilchumlee]

Honestly, my idea is that Kirk becomes commodore of Yorktown after getting together with Carol and they start of life there. A threat pops up with the Klingons loosing several ships to this weapon, and them deciding to pull out all the stops to destroy it. Kirk takes a task force to investigate and discovers a Klingon ship based on the Narada tech dealing with the Doomsday machine.

Yeah, sure!

Do we kill David again?

 

[fireproof78]

Yeah, sure!

Do we kill David again?

No.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Would he be a precocious child a la Alex from The Mummy Returns?

 

[fireproof78]

Would he be a precocious child a la Alex from The Mummy Returns?

Also no.

I would honestly love to see Kirk continue on his arc as he did through the three films. He starts out as a rebel without a cause, living in his father's shadow but directionless. He progresses, taking on things with a less than serious attitude, flaunting rules because he succeeds with that attitude. Only after having no choice, and costing many people their lives, does he have to mature. And then he lives past the age of his dad and has to make peace with that.

Would love to see him try to be the father he really wished he had with his son, Christopher David Kirk.

 

[evilchumlee]

I do like the idea of Kirk actually being there for the kid.

There is a part of me that wants to dig into that more though and somewhat deconstruct Kirk and turn him on his head. Whereas earlier Kirk was the firebrand willing to do anything for the mission, which continued onto Prime Kirk never having time for a family because he was too busy out there doing Kirk things... Kelvin Kirk has settled down and DID start a family, for real...

...and now we get the exact opposite, where Kirk is basically ready to sacrifice just about everything and everyone else to protect his family. To borrow what a future Kirk might have said, he's done his bit for king and country.

Maybe a bit on the sappy side, but going with the settling down and family theme, if we were to get this movie in time... can it be time to let Shatner back in? Give him a happy ending, have Kelvin Kirk save David and Carol and go on to have his family. We can get an end scene with Old Man Kirk, long since retired, having not only seen his son go on to become a Starfleet Captain, but now his son as well. Let him end the saga by giving us the Space, the Final Frontier one more time.

 

[StarTrek1701]

I voted for a Kelvin Continuation.

Here's my pitch:
The Enterprise-A has been in deep space for the last decade or so. Whatever happened in Yorktown is a distant memory, the crew has legendary status back in Starfleet HQ and other ships.
But the crew knows that after this whatever last critical mission establishing their record-breaking first contact with some civilization that they are gonna be heading back to Federation space, literally beelining to Starbase 1 on Earth.
Pleasantries are over, Kirk sits down, the crew at their consoles, bittersweet yet a sense of accomplishment in their faces. Kirk gives a short speech that's broadcast ship wide and he ends it with "lets go home everyone."
Cheers ensue and some claps, they are already heading back out of the system at impulse and just as they are about to warp out, Uhura suddenly exclaims "Captain, I am receiving a distress call, 2ly out etc"
Spock, Bones, Sulu and Carol all give him a look, but Kirk being Kirk orders to warp to the space where the distress call is being received.
They arrive just in time, their eyes wide and they are in awe.

A dark black and green cube, carving out a city from a planet but the moment the Ent-A arrives they get scanned heavily and then Uhura says "They are hailing us Captain!"

"We are the Borg."

Hilarity ensues.

 

[fireproof78]

Maybe a bit on the sappy side, but going with the settling down and family theme, if we were to get this movie in time... can it be time to let Shatner back in? Give him a happy ending, have Kelvin Kirk save David and Carol and go on to have his family. We can get an end scene with Old Man Kirk, long since retired, having not only seen his son go on to become a Starfleet Captain, but now his son as well. Let him end the saga by giving us the Space, the Final Frontier one more time.

I would not mind this. In my opinion, Pine could sell the hell out of being the family man and the sappiness just as well as Shatner could.

 

[evilchumlee]

I would not mind this. In my opinion, Pine could sell the hell out of being the family man and the sappiness just as well as Shatner could.

Oh this is no way a reflection on Pine... Pine is an absolutely fine Kirk.

It was more as an endcap to the series to bring Shatner back, like a full circle type thing, AND also have it make sense that he's super old. Kelvin Kirk ended up getting the happy ending Prime Kirk never got. We get to see 'ol Shat as Kirk again, and we get to potentially slightly better closure on Kirk than we did in Generations.

 

[fireproof78]

Oh this is no way a reflection on Pine... Pine is an absolutely fine Kirk.

It was more as an endcap to the series to bring Shatner back, like a full circle type thing, AND also have it make sense that he's super old. Kelvin Kirk ended up getting the happy ending Prime Kirk never got. We get to see 'ol Shat as Kirk again, and we get to potentially slightly better closure on Kirk than we did in Generations.

No, but the whole story is something I see Pine doing extremely well with and leading up to Shatner's appearance.

Yes, I get it. It's a shameless effort to bring Shatner back, which I understand. But, the story leading to the coda is what I would be in for with Pine.

 

[Ssosmcin]

As we know there have been about half a dozen pitches but what do you want?

As we know there have been about half a dozen pitches but what do you want?

A movie.

Any freaking movie.

 

[fireproof78]

movie.

Any freaking movie.

Warp speed chef. Kirk and Pike host a cooking competition on the Enterprise.

 

[ChristopherPike]

Karl Urban as Dr. McCoy, single-handedly saves everybody at the end of the film.
That's it.
That's my story idea.

You're welcome.

 

[fireproof78]

Karl Urban as Dr. McCoy, single-handedly saves everybody at the end of the film.
That's it.
That's my story idea.

You're welcome.

"Well, what do you know. I finally got the last word."

 

[evilchumlee]

I stumbled upon this thread again, and i'm kind of really digging the idea of a kind of tragic ending for Kirk that should have been a happy ending.

Somewhat like the SNW episode where Pike was not equipped to deal with "Balance of Terror", a Future-Kirk who settled down and had a family... ended up being disastrous for the galaxy. Instead of a Kirk who was willing to throw away the rulebook and sacrifice everything to save the day, he becomes a cautious man who mostly wants to make sure he gets to go home at the end of it all for his family.

 

[fireproof78]

ended up being disastrous for the galaxy.

Why the hell would one man's career choice be disastrous for the galaxy?

 

[M'Sharak]

Instead of a Kirk who was willing to throw away the rulebook and sacrifice everything to save the day, he becomes a cautious man who mostly wants to make sure he gets to go home at the end of it all for his family.

Wasn't that idea done already -- kind of?

 

[evilchumlee]

Why the hell would one man's career choice be disastrous for the galaxy?

Remember that time Pike was a wuss and doomed the galaxy to a decades-long war with the Romulans?

What if Kirk had seen the whale probe and been like "Time travelling is way too risk, I need to try to get home to Carol!"

There's a ton of things that could go terribly wrong if one man takes the wrong course of action.

 

[fireproof78]

Remember that time Pike was a wuss and doomed the galaxy to a decades-long war with the Romulans?

What if Kirk had seen the whale probe and been like "Time travelling is way too risk, I need to try to get home to Carol!"

There's a ton of things that could go terribly wrong if one man takes the wrong course of action.

That's not a galaxy.

 

[hbquikcomjamesl]

Hmm. "What do you want." As anybody familiar with B5 knows, "What do you want" is a very dangerous question to answer.