Yeah but we needed to see the 32nd century, detached hulls refit of the ISS.
Spoilers Star Trek Discovery - Starships and Technology Season Five Discussion
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So, by the time of the epilogue Starfleet figured out how to get the spore drive working without Stamets.
Of course it's more likely a stupid oversight and mistake but... yeah.
Of course it's more likely a stupid oversight and mistake but... yeah.
Burnham's mission brief was that she'd take Discovery to her designated coordinates and then leave Zora to wait. Given the nature of the mission I wouldn't be surprised that it was a skeleton crew of Red Directive operatives, including a lone officer on the bridge, and mayhaps someone qualified in spore drive ops down in the Tank.
As for leaving Zora for an untold long period of time being mean or not, she IS an artificial intelligence. AI rights issues aside, we know that they can experience time differently than us meat popsicles... Not in Trek, but there's a ship's AI that ran a JMC mining ship alone for three million years and he barely went crazy at all, so it's surely within the realm of sci-fi writing to have Zora do this mission in a relative flash for her consciousness.
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Changing tracks a little, can we spare a thought for the 33rd century uniforms! They're thankfully still colorful and perhaps a bit more militaristic, which I do like; and the black of Discovery's uniform set has been banished once again. Burnham's Fleet Admiral outfit still keeps the rank pips tiny and obscured, which I'd taken as a way to de-emphasize rank over position or responsibility - her flag epaulets do add more emphasis on her four-pip Admiralty, though.
Leto's Captain uniform brings back the discrete pips and puts them in a visible location and at a size where you don't have to squint; however it's good that he's a fit man, as I daresay that humans like me who can have a bit of a chin at my age would have their ranks covered up at times. Lurians too. And finally, the tricom gets a do-over, being a big bigger and having a more distinctive look that recalls the "evergreen" Star Trek logo that was used across all corporate media for a while in the 1990s, plus stuff like the Generations movie and the "Journey's End" TNG special. always liked that one.
And let it not be said that uniforms that look impossible to get into or out of can come back too! The earlier 32nd C uniforms had clear zipper seams even though the clasp at the top was made to look like it split down the middle when open, whereas in "reality" it was velcroed across the top. Here, none of that matters, as a tricom tap will call whole wardrobe changes more casually than before, where spacesuits seemed to be the only thing that zapped on or off (as a function perhaps of the away team gear). Quick change magicians are clearly unemployed a thousand years in the future. :P
Mark
As for leaving Zora for an untold long period of time being mean or not, she IS an artificial intelligence. AI rights issues aside, we know that they can experience time differently than us meat popsicles... Not in Trek, but there's a ship's AI that ran a JMC mining ship alone for three million years and he barely went crazy at all, so it's surely within the realm of sci-fi writing to have Zora do this mission in a relative flash for her consciousness.
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Changing tracks a little, can we spare a thought for the 33rd century uniforms! They're thankfully still colorful and perhaps a bit more militaristic, which I do like; and the black of Discovery's uniform set has been banished once again. Burnham's Fleet Admiral outfit still keeps the rank pips tiny and obscured, which I'd taken as a way to de-emphasize rank over position or responsibility - her flag epaulets do add more emphasis on her four-pip Admiralty, though.
Leto's Captain uniform brings back the discrete pips and puts them in a visible location and at a size where you don't have to squint; however it's good that he's a fit man, as I daresay that humans like me who can have a bit of a chin at my age would have their ranks covered up at times. Lurians too. And finally, the tricom gets a do-over, being a big bigger and having a more distinctive look that recalls the "evergreen" Star Trek logo that was used across all corporate media for a while in the 1990s, plus stuff like the Generations movie and the "Journey's End" TNG special. always liked that one.
And let it not be said that uniforms that look impossible to get into or out of can come back too! The earlier 32nd C uniforms had clear zipper seams even though the clasp at the top was made to look like it split down the middle when open, whereas in "reality" it was velcroed across the top. Here, none of that matters, as a tricom tap will call whole wardrobe changes more casually than before, where spacesuits seemed to be the only thing that zapped on or off (as a function perhaps of the away team gear). Quick change magicians are clearly unemployed a thousand years in the future. :P
Mark
I really liked the finale uniforms they had at the end, when Burnham took DSC and Zora out for the last time. Gone are the fussy asymmetrical cuts and there seemed to be some Bajoran Militia influence to some of the panels on the uniforms. Nicely done.
Burnham is a full Admiral or CiC of Starfleet?
I spotted that, I realised I'd had them backwards for years.
4 pips
4 pips inside a full bar. That’s a Fleet Admiral. Possibly also the CiC, which was also a Fleet Admiral, per TUC, but there’s only one CiC, as opposed to multiple Fleet Admirals.
Crap. You’re all totally right - forgot about the 5-star version. Vance does seem to have 5 little circles on his collar insignia. I would assume that makes him a Fleet Admiral, and most likely the CIC.
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According to MA, there are actually a larger number than I originally realized:
The following admirals were referred to as fleet admirals but wore the rank insignia for vice admiral:
Mirror Starfleet
- Brett Anderson
- Robert April
- Bill, Commander in Chief
- Bob, Chief of Staff
- Cartwright
- Kirsten Clancy, Commander in Chief
- Javas
- Alexander Marcus (alternate reality)
- Morrow, Commander, Starfleet
- Elizabeth Shelby
- Terral
- Zus Tlaggul, Space Command Representative
- Charles Vance, Commander in Chief
The following admirals were referred to as fleet admirals but wore the rank insignia for vice admiral:
- Brackett
- Alynna Nechayev
- Shanthi
Mirror Starfleet
- Gardner
It was kind of a copy-paste fest with existing designs, kind of like Frontier Day like you mentioned, and the PIC S1 finale. I didn't see anything new all season, at least with regard to Federation vessels.
I would like to see some orthos of the Breen ships & Moll & L'ak's vessel, though. They looked quite interesting.
I would like to see some orthos of the Breen ships & Moll & L'ak's vessel, though. They looked quite interesting.
Some odd notes / quirks about Spore Jumping:
Apparently the Large Tardigrade like creature named 'Ripper' didn't need to spin to Spore Jump. He just faced the direction he wanted to go and went.
My theory is that the spinning part is because of inefficient Version 1 of the Spore Drive technology requires the Barrel Rolling.
The Giant Breen Dreadnought that got Spore Jumped didn't even need to fall into the Mycelial Network, it just disappeared in place and left a Tiny sized Super Nova like Energy Explosion ring in it's wake.
So falling into the "Mycelial Network" is optional since there has been a few times that Discovery Spore Jumped going forward instead of falling in.
My theory is that the spinning part is because of inefficient Version 1 of the Spore Drive technology requires the Barrel Rolling.
The Giant Breen Dreadnought that got Spore Jumped didn't even need to fall into the Mycelial Network, it just disappeared in place and left a Tiny sized Super Nova like Energy Explosion ring in it's wake.
So falling into the "Mycelial Network" is optional since there has been a few times that Discovery Spore Jumped going forward instead of falling in.
