Nilsson got ahold of it and will seek revenge on the people responsible for writing her out of season 5.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 5x10 - "Life, Itself"
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Nilsson got ahold of it and will seek revenge on the people responsible for writing her out of season 5.
While the writers may have tried to frame it that way in the season, Discovery doesn't exist in a vacuum.
So as much as Discovery's writers might not like it, we have to look at the framing of things as they would exist in the setting itself. And when looked at through the greater lens of Star Trek history, it completely re-contextualizes everything in the season so you end up with stuff like this that should be "deep" just coming off as silly.
Maybe we can get a "Short Trek" an show an "After Craft" Discovery being recovered.. And maybe show that Craft was an important person and needed to be saved? If they forced Zora to be bored for a 1000 years for some shrub.. thats cruel and unusual..
Nilsson: Remember me?
Burnham: I'm afraid I don't.
Nilsson: I gave up my life to come to the future with you, you *****!
Burnham: For me it was Tuesday.
Book: OOOHHHHHHHH!!!!
I watched bits of S3 again and they clearly try to correct for that, particularly with Detmer. They just wrote themselves into a middle ground that isn't satisfying for anyone. I think they're more important that you do, but I don't think either of us are wrong.
I found the finale okay but a little underwhelming. The whole "We must destroy this technology because we can't be trusted with it" felt a little un-Trekky and the whole Daniels reveal felt "Reference for sake of reference" and "Needs elaboration".
As Burnham said, you could create an entire army out of nothing. Or you could basically play God and take a lifeless planet and create life shaped in any way you desire.
And? They had been able to do those things since the 24th century.
Upon reflection for the whole season, it was fairly paint by numbers. No real surprises. No twists and turns. But it had a pretty good finale.
Moll and L'ak were half-hearted attempts as antagonists. A petulant teenager running away with her boyfriend. No surprise the two of them were no match at finding the clues compared to an entire crew of specialists on a ship that can travel instantly anywhere in the galaxy and has the full support of the United Federation of Planets. Just no contest. They were however useful plot points for introducing some back story for Book and bring the Breen into the story. Unfortunately, the Breen became jokes and the resolution between Moll and Book was weak.
Similarly, the progenitor technology MacGuffin was similarly halfhearted. It was weakly played up as a meaning of life type search but in the end it just was barely discussed beyond the possibility of producing an army and then chucked into the black hole. It would've been much more interesting if Michael actually accepted the role offered by the Progenitor. Given her growth as a person, she should've trusted herself to be its guardian.
The crew, besides Rayner, was just given busy work, such as helping to solve the clues. Important for the quest but not really meaningful screen time as they looked puzzled at a vial of water, different screens, and the like. They gave Culber a halfhearted epiphany of sorts that appeared at several points. But unfortunately that was concluded with him reciting a frequency value and then accepting that he didn't know where it came from.
Despite the shortcomings, the finale itself was pretty good. Michael had to explore the unknown. And the message from the Progenitor and Michael's explanation for why they didn't need the tech was a great ST theme and lifted it above the rest of the season.
The strongest points for DIS recently have been the finales for S4 and 5. They both excelled at being on point for a ST series. It's often the getting to the finale where weaknesses show up.
Moll and L'ak were half-hearted attempts as antagonists. A petulant teenager running away with her boyfriend. No surprise the two of them were no match at finding the clues compared to an entire crew of specialists on a ship that can travel instantly anywhere in the galaxy and has the full support of the United Federation of Planets. Just no contest. They were however useful plot points for introducing some back story for Book and bring the Breen into the story. Unfortunately, the Breen became jokes and the resolution between Moll and Book was weak.
Similarly, the progenitor technology MacGuffin was similarly halfhearted. It was weakly played up as a meaning of life type search but in the end it just was barely discussed beyond the possibility of producing an army and then chucked into the black hole. It would've been much more interesting if Michael actually accepted the role offered by the Progenitor. Given her growth as a person, she should've trusted herself to be its guardian.
The crew, besides Rayner, was just given busy work, such as helping to solve the clues. Important for the quest but not really meaningful screen time as they looked puzzled at a vial of water, different screens, and the like. They gave Culber a halfhearted epiphany of sorts that appeared at several points. But unfortunately that was concluded with him reciting a frequency value and then accepting that he didn't know where it came from.
Despite the shortcomings, the finale itself was pretty good. Michael had to explore the unknown. And the message from the Progenitor and Michael's explanation for why they didn't need the tech was a great ST theme and lifted it above the rest of the season.
The strongest points for DIS recently have been the finales for S4 and 5. They both excelled at being on point for a ST series. It's often the getting to the finale where weaknesses show up.
Sorta like how I know Ensign Gates and Jae, from TNG, not because they were realized characters but because they were in that show so much that they inevitably became familiar faces.
Zora/Discovery's ending was terrible. They should have forgone the connection to Calypso and instead had Zora evolve to the point that she can operate Discovery, Spore Drive included, independent of a crew. She officially resigns her commission and heads off into the unknown to, "discover everything." We see a montage of her journey across space and time as she slowly evolves into the Sphere. After eons of exploration, Zora dies imparting the knowledge she has collected to the crew of the USS Discovery in the 23rd century, thereby ensuring her own creation. The predestination loop closes, fade to black.
The one in TNG also had tiny ears. They're just more flush with the rest of the head.
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We were all wrong. There apparently WAS a storyline planned for Calypso. All of Season 6 in fact. The show being canceled had that cut down to what we got. I guess we may never know what that plotline was now: https://blog.trekcore.com/2024/05/s...ing-moment-was-planned-for-season-6-spoilers/
I thought that Short Trek was already accounted for in the alternate doomed future Michael and whathisname saw during the time bug episode. Didn't seem like there was a need for this bizarre "We're going to just leave you out in the middle of space for some reason" ending.
No, it was just a nod.
Calypso was going to be addressed in Season 6 if the show hadn't been cancelled:
https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/st...plained-epilogue-season-6-calypso-1236020745/
Coincidentally, a video was recently released talking about how it's actually quite difficult to fall into a black hole.
They should release the story as a comic or something so fans can get closure
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