Set blueprint exchange

137th Gebirg · Apr 30, 2024

shadocontrol said:
Thank you for confirming I wasn't going insane! :-)

Well, you might be... just not about that!

J/K!

batboy853 · May 28, 2024

NervousEnergy · May 28, 2024

Great stuff there! Thanks batboy.

I also came across some original printed concept art by Andy Probert / Rick Sternbach of the Galaxy Class: Star Trek TNG 6 Original printed Artworks ENTERPRISE Probert Sternbach 1987 COA | eBay

137th Gebirg · May 28, 2024

So... That Excelsior. I'm not 100% sure that was the Jein build for VOY "Flashback". I remember seeing that model up for sale, either in the Christie's auction, or in another one of the big auctions when Paramount was selling everything off and there were two things that stuck out to me: 1) While this model is suffering from sagging nacelles, the middle of the top surface of the secondary hull of the one I saw had separated from the lower portion of the 2H under the sag and looked in really rough shape. This one, while sagging somewhat, looks still all glued together. Now, this could be explained away by having had some restoration work done to it, considering it was featured in the Museum of Pop Culture in Seattle (I went there for the BSG exhibit back in, I think, 2010 or 2011 - really cool place). But that brings me to point 2) The 2H on this one looks too wide to me. As in, it looks more correctly proportioned to the original larger model, which had a much wider hull. This one is still a tad-bit narrower, but the one I remember seeing was WAY too narrow. No fault of Jein's, mind you, as he apparently was only given photo stills of limited angles of the original, IIRC, and he had to eyeball the rest. That never made sense to me, as he should have been given access to the original so he could take better measurements, but that's beside the point.

Don't get me wrong - this is a beautiful model, but something just doesn't seem right about it to me. I dunno, maybe I'm just talking out of my ass. :shrug:

Praetor · May 28, 2024

@137th Gebirg It does look a LOT like the Jein model particularly in the detailing but I'm not sure either.

137th Gebirg · May 28, 2024

I really wish I could find those old photos I saw the first time this model was put up for auction. You could really see the striking differences between it and the original, plus the shocking damage it suffered along its "strong back" region. I guess they've been lost to time, and I have no idea what website I saw those photos. I want to say it was somewhere on GeoCities. The old IDIC page, maybe? I'll have to go digging.

Redgeneral · May 28, 2024

I'm currently working on uploading a new update to the archive, but once done I'll get to work on the new auction items spotted by @batboy853 and @NervousEnergy

Those "Defiant bridge plans" are from "Star Trek The Adventure", an exhibition is Hyde park UK 2002.
I believe the profile is different to what was built for Mirror Darkly.

Rekkert · May 29, 2024

The Flashback model was never auctioned, it was allegedly privately sold to Adam Schneider as last time it was displayed it had a plaque indicating it was from his collection.

The model at this auction definitely matches that one precisely, even down to the sagging nacelles and yellowing decals, so if nothing else it's from the exact same molds and done at the same time using the same techniques, something that Jein did often. Unless Schneider had sold the model back to Jein, this is most likely an exact replica Jein did back then for his own personal collection.

As for the shape and wideness of the secondary hull, it also matches perfectly with previous photos of the 3 footer Flashback model.

@137th Gebirg: You may be thinking of the previously auctioned study model for the Enterprise-B, which was indeed more damaged and had a somewhat split secondary hull.

Firebird · May 29, 2024

One of those TOS set plans is of the very early version of the set from the first few episodes! You can tell because there's an additional door in the corridor between Kirk's quarters and the inset ladder. It was removed before Balance of Terror. Really cool to finally see an official version!

Judging by the mention of Leo Penn and the call-out to "Janice's Quarters," it's the director's plan for The Enemy Within.

137th Gebirg · May 29, 2024

Rekkert said:
The Flashback model was never auctioned, it was allegedly privately sold to Adam Schneider as last time it was displayed it had a plaque indicating it was from his collection.

The model at this auction definitely matches that one precisely, even down to the sagging nacelles and yellowing decals, so if nothing else it's from the exact same molds and done at the same time using the same techniques, something that Jein did often. Unless Schneider had sold the model back to Jein, this is most likely an exact replica Jein did back then for his own personal collection.

As for the shape and wideness of the secondary hull, it also matches perfectly with previous photos of the 3 footer Flashback model.

@137th Gebirg: You may be thinking of the previously auctioned studio model for the Enterprise-B, which was indeed more damaged and had a somewhat split secondary hull.

Ha! That must have been the one I saw all those years ago.

That’s definitely not the big one though. It doesn’t have any windows and the bridge is from a AMT Refit Connie. Did they use this one for long shots in GEN?

In any case, it’s sad how much it’s fallen apart like that.

Mytran · May 29, 2024

Firebird said:
One of those TOS set plans is of the very early version of the set from the first few episodes! You can tell because there's an additional door in the corridor between Kirk's quarters and the inset ladder. It was removed before Balance of Terror. Really cool to finally see an official version!

Judging by the mention of Leo Penn and the call-out to "Janice's Quarters," it's the director's plan for The Enemy Within.

Shame the curved shelf from Pike's cabin never made it into engineering in the final episode! :biggrin:

It's interesting that this is a simple sketch rather than the more official "complete" versions of the S1 set which are available (for CX and BOT). Would this have been a simple trace from a master diagram, something given to the directors for them to plan their shots?

David cgc · May 29, 2024

137th Gebirg said:
That’s definitely not the big one though. It doesn’t have any windows and the bridge is from a AMT Refit Connie. Did they use this one for long shots in GEN?

I don't think there were any long shots in GEN. There was the physical model(s) used for the drydock and launch sequence and the last shot of the ship passing over the camera with the close-up of the damaged section, and all the shots in the middle with interactive lighting from the Nexus were a CG model. Maybe it's some kind of prototype or study model, or maybe one used for set-dressing?

Count · May 29, 2024

the one you've described as Jaheel's ship is also Neelix's ship Baxial iirc.

Also on ship references, the Phoenix's sensor pod: https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/mo...018.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

Rekkert · May 29, 2024

@137th Gebirg: The Enterprise-B model I posted was just a study model Eaves made to make sure the shapes worked, it wasn't used in production.

Redgeneral · May 31, 2024

Latest update is online - blueprints and new sections...

Kelvinverse Enterprise Blueprints

Stage J3 - Beyond
Folder: http://frogland.co.uk/set-archive/S...boot (Kelvin Timeline)/Stage Plans/index.html

Security Sensor - Into Darkness
Folder: http://frogland.co.uk/set-archive/S...Reboot (Kelvin Timeline)/Corridors/index.html

Transporter (4) - Beyond
Folder: http://frogland.co.uk/set-archive/S...boot (Kelvin Timeline)/Transporter/index.html
Note - folder images have been renamed and rearranged.

Warp Core
Core access 1-3 and Core access pre-vis 1-3
Folder: http://frogland.co.uk/set-archive/S...Reboot (Kelvin Timeline)/Warp Core/index.html

Unused Designs
Unused Security 1-4
New Folder: http://frogland.co.uk/set-archive/S...t (Kelvin Timeline)/Unused designs/index.html

New Section: Games

Folder: http://frogland.co.uk/set-archive/Games/index.html

Sub-sections:
Perpetual Entertainment
Star Trek Invasion
Secret of Vulcan Fury

The most content is in the folder Perpetual Entertainment - various concept art for the initial development of Star Trek Online (Ship exteriors, ship interiors, locations, space stations, etc.). The studio would shut down and Cryptic would instead develop the game we know.

New Section: Animation

Folder: http://frogland.co.uk/set-archive/Animation/index.html

Sub-sections:
The Animated Series
Prodigy
Lower Decks

The majority of content is with "The Animated Series" - model sheets, drawings, production cells, storyboards etc.
Thanks to StarfleetDesign of twitter for finding the model sheets.

Ship Blueprints

Robot Ship
Folder: http://frogland.co.uk/set-archive/Ship Blueprints/Robot ship/index.html
Ortho drawings for both the TAS Robot Grain ship and TAS remaster version (by Mike Okuda)

Maintenance

Removed: Equinox Plaque
Although listed by the collector as the original plaque, further examination showed significant differences from on-screen plaque. Images have been removed.

batboy853 · Jun 19, 2024

Not sure if this has been posted:
FC Borg Alcove

Rare Star Trek Set Blueprints for the Borg

Rare Star Trek Set Blueprints for the Borg - Cool Stuff Auctions

www.icollector.com

Redgeneral · Jun 19, 2024

@batboy853 That is an amazing find - I will upload with the rest of the model stuff soon. Just need to get a free day to sort and upload - its a bit chaotic in my life at the moment.

Also Liz Kloczkowski posted an image on twitter, which featured a transporter room blueprint for the recreated Enterprise D. The intent was to build it inside the Titan's transporter room, but was ultimately not needed.

Count · Jun 20, 2024

While we're on the subject of icollector, do you have this one?

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (TV) - Production Used Blueprint

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (TV) - Production Used Blueprint - ScreenUsed

www.icollector.com

This is theInsurrection Captain's Yacht Cargo bay airlock/bajoran fighter bridge set blueprint.

Firebird · Jun 20, 2024

Redgeneral said:
@batboy853 That is an amazing find - I will upload with the rest of the model stuff soon. Just need to get a free day to sort and upload - its a bit chaotic in my life at the moment.

Also Liz Kloczkowski posted an image on twitter, which featured a transporter room blueprint for the recreated Enterprise D. The intent was to build it inside the Titan's transporter room, but was ultimately not needed.

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Boy, they were just burning to rebuild as many of those sets as they could - the Bridge, Ready Room, and now the Transporter Room.

Redgeneral · Jun 20, 2024

@Count - we have that one

Also need to highlight this tweet reply by Joe - the perspective has been flattened out to give a top down on the transporter blueprint

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