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Starting to wonder if Ruby is actually Susan or something and that explains the snow and why the Doctor gets weepy.
How is Susan a newborn in 2004?

Well, she is descended from the Timeless Child, who reset to infancy every now and then, although I don’t recall how. Was it something the TLs did, or just something that happens naturally?
 
How is Susan a newborn in 2004?

Well, she is descended from the Timeless Child, who reset to infancy every now and then, although I don’t recall how. Was it something the TLs did, or just something that happens naturally?
Yes.

I mean, when it comes to time travel dates are meaningless. It doesn't matter when she was born.
 
Ruby is definitely human. The scan the Doctor made of her at the end of "Space Babies"confirmed her as homo sapien. If she had two hearts, surely the tardis would have detected that.
Ummm, Chameleon arch? Doctor is half human? etc. I'm just throwing ideas out there... Really, what I'm saying is I feel there is some connection considering how often they bring up the Doctor being a grandparent this season.
 
Susan’s great-granddaughter? I wonder about a TL reproducing with a human, but one evidently reproduced with the Doctor, and he’s not originally from Gallifrey.
 
Ummm, Chameleon arch? Doctor is half human? etc. I'm just throwing ideas out there... Really, what I'm saying is I feel there is some connection considering how often they bring up the Doctor being a grandparent this season.
Fair enough. It's just that Ruby being Susan seems a little too on the nose and obvious to me. How about this? Ruby is a younger version of Mrs Flood and they are both a future regeneration of Susan? The older version of this of this regeneration, Mrs Flood, remembers her time with the Doctor, while the younger version of this regeneration, Ruby, for whatever reason, does not. Or, perhaps, cannot. Her remembering the Doctor this early in this regeneration would disrupt a future fixed point of in time in Ruby's future.

That would be convoluted and wibbly wobbly enough to sound like a Doctor Who plot to me.

All I ask is that Carole Ann Ford appears in a flashback.
 
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Not a bad episode. One wonders how much, if any, of the 15th Doctor he saw before he wrote it. Feels at times to be dialogue for a Moffat type Doctor.

Starting to wonder if Ruby is actually Susan or something and that explains the snow and why the Doctor gets weepy.

They're all the same Doctor though ;)

I do know what you mean, when RTD wrote for Smith in TSJA he felt like a very different character
 
I do know what you mean, when RTD wrote for Smith in TSJA he felt like a very different character
What I found jarring about Smith being on SJA was hearing him speak typical RTD style dialogue. IE, referring to the aliens in that story by their full grandiose name and titles.
 
A nice, tense episode. Ncuti brought The Serious here. My only nitpick was that Splice seemed oblivious to her dad being actually dead. However, she mentioned her mother was "gathered", so I chalked it up to the religious upbringing. The ambulance was wonderfully creepy, as was the idea of an accepted casualty algorithm.
 
How did the Anglicans not know it was their own mine? Didn’t they buy it and plant it? Or did the Villengard plant the mines themselves without the Anglicans knowing?
 
How did the Anglicans not know it was their own mine? Didn’t they buy it and plant it? Or did the Villengard plant the mines themselves without the Anglicans knowing?
The Doctor mentioned that Villengard supplies weapons to both sides of every conflict.
 
My only gripe is the absence of the sonic screwdriver.
Yes, he doesn't need to always use it but it's absence is quite glaring. Simply throwing in the word "deadlocked" would have helped lol.
Though they did suggest he left the TARDIS prematurely so maybe he hadn't finished packing.
 
But there isn’t another side in this conflict.
Yes, but it would account for them not knowing whether or not it was one of their mines. And not only was it invisible, but at the beginning, Vater and the other soldier discuss that the minefield hadn’t been there the previous day and that they were known to “migrate.” Even in the real world, area denial weapons are everyone’s problem, so it wouldn’t matter who originally placed it, especially if these particular mines were designed to move autonomously.
 
I think it’s weakly implied that despite how the Doctor *says* the conflict started, this whole thing was just Villengard making it happen for the money. The closest it gets to explicit is that the Vater AI takes them all down, and most of the rest is based in what we already know about the Anglican Marines — I.e that they are basically goodies and the future UNIT to all intents.
 
Have any stories ever dealt with who Susan's parents were and what become of them? Do we even know which one was The Doctors kid? If it was her mother, then was she Jenny?
 
Nothing in the show itself. I think the closest thing we ever got was The Second Doctor's speech to Victoria in Tomb of the Cybermen about recalling their faces.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was something somewhere in one of the books and/or comics. I don't think Big Finish has even hinted at anything like that (but that could've changed in the last few years when I stopped listening regularly due to financial reasons), with only hinting at Braxiatel being The Doctor's brother (which I don't believe originated with Big Finish).

Jenny is only a clone based on The Doctor's DNA and has nothing to do with any of The Doctor's children.
 
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