What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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@F. King Daniel Adopted children get new names, too, and may prefer to use the one their adoptive parents give them.
One thing Star Trek has often not done is get the fleet sizes believable, especially the Federation's. This is tied into distance and speed problems.
Just 12 heavy cruisers? No way.
You're going to set up a blockade of a few dozen starships in a concentrated area like a solar system (e.g., Wolf 359)? LULZ, NOPE. If we can outrun your fastest ship (which we can, resistance is futile), we'll just warp right around your whole fleet, have dropped our assimilation bomb on Earth, and be gone before you've even gotten there!
Just 12 heavy cruisers? No way.
You're going to set up a blockade of a few dozen starships in a concentrated area like a solar system (e.g., Wolf 359)? LULZ, NOPE. If we can outrun your fastest ship (which we can, resistance is futile), we'll just warp right around your whole fleet, have dropped our assimilation bomb on Earth, and be gone before you've even gotten there!
Only in this case the adopted parents kidnapped her and brainwashed her.
There are all of these comparisons to real life situations where someone has taken a name to reflect who they want to be. But this is like Jean Valjean deciding that 24601 brings out the best of himself.
Even the spouse keeping the name after a divorce has less nuance to it. In this case it was an abusive and non consensual relationship.
I didn't mean the Borg. The crew of Voyager used that name and kind of "redeemed" it for her, as though they had been the ones to give it in the first place.
I don't disagree with your premise, but I think "twelve like her in the fleet" doesn't mean there are only twelve heavy cruisers in the fleet, only twelve that are like the Enterprise. Minor cosmetic differences (such as the representation of the original AMT Constellation) may have represented vastly different internals and meant a different subclass.
Now, "we're the only ship in range/the sector/the quadrant" feels much more in keeping with your thought. And more often than not felt very clearly defined by the needs of plot, unlike a throwaway line about the fleet makeup.
It is. The speeds are
- Fast enough to get there in time
- Not fast enough to get there in time
- Cruising
"I hate it here. I want to go back to my people. I insist that you call me Scum Puppy."
"We can't let you go home. But we'll respect your wishes and we hope we can all make the best of it."
YEARS LATER
"And then these lovely people took me in, helped me over my trauma, and allowed me to grow as a human being. I'll never forget how they called me Scum Puppy. I would ask that in honor of the people that saved me that you do the same."
- Going to blow up the ship
The divorce analogy can go either way in my experience. I know women who've kept their married names. Maybe because all their associates know them by it, for one example (an ex-boss of mine who became a VP at a big corporation). (Likewise a married woman keeping her single name for similar reasons). My sister reverted to her single name to divest her of any association with that creep she got rid of. Likewise her daughter, my niece, ditched an abusive asshole and went back to her own single name.
To my thinking, "7 of 9" was like the name forced on this kidnapped child by a horrible cult that violated her mind and body (see also Patty "Tania" Hearst, perhaps an apt analogy), and in her quest to regain her identity, reclaiming her former name seems more preferable to me (meaning it's how I'd feel) than continuing to use her cult name and being constantly reminded of what they did to me.
That Q'onos is closer to Earth than we think? TMP would seem to indicate the Klingon border is just a few days away.
80 hours away at Warp 4-something was a shock in 2001 but after all these years it's less of one.
And getting the plot resolved by the end of the second hour.
They were not.
TMP indicated that the border was a few days away if you are V'ger. It also indicated that Vulcan was four days away for the Enterprise.
Chi town!Something something subspace currents making warp faster something something.
How fast was V'Ger Traveling? Wasn't the original plan for the Enterprise to intercept V'Ger days before it got to Earth?
Crowded neighborhood.
And the "four days to Vulcan" line can also include the ship's shakedown cruise and return to Drydock for evaluation before warping off to Vulcan.
One of the most controversial viewpoints on Trek I have is the Prime Directive is good. Not good in an ethical sense, but good in a worldbuilding sense.
Moral norms change over the centuries, and one failing of Star Trek is instead of trying to realistically depict how morality may change, it often just lazily plunks present values (or rather, the liberal humanist variant of present values) into the future unchanged. But the Prime Directive is something quite different, where we get to see our "heroes" make moral choices which seem baffling to us, because their underlying values are different from our own.
Moral norms change over the centuries, and one failing of Star Trek is instead of trying to realistically depict how morality may change, it often just lazily plunks present values (or rather, the liberal humanist variant of present values) into the future unchanged. But the Prime Directive is something quite different, where we get to see our "heroes" make moral choices which seem baffling to us, because their underlying values are different from our own.
I like the Prime Directive fine, save for when it is used to justify the wholesale loss of life.
Or, as Roddenberry put it, "If the Enterprise happened upon Earth in the middle of WW2 it would have to just leave."
Or, as Roddenberry put it, "If the Enterprise happened upon Earth in the middle of WW2 it would have to just leave."
For what it's worth, TOS never states that Vulcan is as close to Earth as later Trek establishes. In fact, humans are pretty ignorant of Vulcan culture and customs in TOS, so it's pretty easy to argue they had been contacted relatively recently.
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