What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Lord Garth]

I'm at work on break. The Love Boat is playing on the TV on some channel called Catchy Comedy. This is the first time I've ever seen The Love Boat...

... and I really have to squint to see the similarities to TNG. I've heard TNG is like The Love Boat for decades, but the similarities look superficial to me.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I'm at work on break. The Love Boat is playing on the TV on some channel called Catchy Comedy. This is the first time I've ever seen The Love Boat...

... and I really have to squint to see the similarities to TNG. I've heard TNG is like The Love Boat for decades, but the similarities look superficial to me.

Bald captain,.. uh...I got nothing.

 

[FormerLurker]

To my thinking, "7 of 9" was like the name forced on this kidnapped child by a horrible cult that violated her mind and body (see also Patty "Tania" Hearst, perhaps an apt analogy), and in her quest to regain her identity, reclaiming her former name seems more preferable to me (meaning it's how I'd feel) than continuing to use her cult name and being constantly reminded of what they did to me.

It's probably more akin to Traci Lords. Her birth name is Nora Louise Kuzma. When she was fourteen, her new stepfather began exploiting her in porn under the name Traci Lords, which lasted until she turned eighteen and used her new status as a legal adult to put an end to it. She then began a mainstream career as an actress using the name Traci Lords, and ultimately legally changed her name to Traci Elizabeth Lords.

And the "four days to Vulcan" line can also include the ship's shakedown cruise and return to Drydock for evaluation before warping off to Vulcan.

Nah. Shakedowns last for weeks to months. TFF takes place between six months to two years after TVH.

 

[Lord Garth]

Bald captain,.. uh...I got nothing.

I'm guessing Earth tones, beige, and the B-plots? That's all I can figure from less than 15 minutes.

The people who made the comparisons, IIRC, were the TNG Days' version of the "STD sucks!" crowd. So their observations were worth a grain of salt. And now I can say for sure.

 

[Orphalesion]

I'm guessing Earth tones, beige, and the B-plots? That's all I can figure from less than 15 minutes.

Only ever having seen like two episodes of Love Boat, I want to be charitable and say the superficial similarity might be to those episodes of TNG where they got random one-off characters on board and then the episode was about their problems and then we never saw them again. TNG could be quite bad on occasion with making the episodes about those one-off randos rather than the main character.

That's not to say TNG didn't have lots of good episodes that were about the main characters, just that it also had those superficially love-boat esque episodes too (not as much as the detractors would have it, but they were there)

 

[Nerys Myk]

Love Boat was about characters played by B-listers and aging stars as guests on a cruise ship. They had multiple stories in each episodes that had them interacting with the ship's crew/series regulars. Hmmmm

 

[Tallguy]

It was because of the bald captain. That was as deep as it got.

 

[cooleddie74]

And the black guy in the crew who never seemed to have a stable relationship during the show.

 

[BK613]

And the Enterprise-D looked like a cruise ship—TPTB even referenced that fact in The Neutral Zone with a comparison to the QE2.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

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Star Trek as The Love Boat

One of the better mashups, totally nails it on every level.

 

[Nerys Myk]

And the black guy in the crew who never seemed to have a stable relationship during the show.

And the peppy cruise director...er, counselor

 

[Macintosh]

And the Enterprise-D looked like a cruise ship—TPTB even referenced that fact in The Neutral Zone with a comparison to the QE2.

Technically the QE2 was an ocean liner, not a cruise ship.

 

[BK613]

Technically the QE2 was an ocean liner, not a cruise ship.

A difference that isn't a difference since it's the decor that makes them look similar. And maybe all the windows...

 

[Tallguy]

And the black guy in the crew who never seemed to have a stable relationship during the show.

But we didn't know that then. Heck, him and the kid were the STARS.

 

[Ovation]

Bald captain,.. uh...I got nothing.

The carpets.

 

[StarTrek1701]

We don't allow slurs here, including this one.

Please don't use it again.

Thanks

Its not a slur if its a fact. But whatevs.

 

[at Quark's]

Similarities? I don't see them.

The Love Boat was about weekly viewing outrageous forms of life, weirder than you ever never even thought possible, acting under their own alien and incomprehensible codes of conduct.

TNG was just about regular people with rubber protheses.

 

[Citiprime]

At their most base form, there’s similarities in format to The Love Boat when Star Trek is truly week-to-week episodic.

The setting and story themes of The Love Boat and TNG are very different, but the fundamentals of how the story plays out works the same way.

1. There’s a main cast of characters made up of the main crew that serve different roles aboard the ship, but from week-to-week there’s no heavy emphasis on serialized backstory for those characters and they largely act as the outside observers and mediators to the guest stars who facilitate the action of the stories.
2. Those guest stars are largely b-list and c-list celebrities who bring new issues, new problems, and their troubles to the ship.
3. The ship’s crew act in ways to help those characters work through their problems, and in doing so we're shown the character qualities of the main cast and it defines their nature as good people and the ship’s reason and function to exist.

The big difference is that The Love Boat is a comedy centered around stories of relationship problems, like the married couple whose relationship has gone stale, that the crew of the Pacific Princess help them in some way, where Star Trek is a drama that has someone playing a weird non-corporeal alien that’s trying to understand humanity by being a girl’s imaginary friend or a child trying to understand death and loss by imitating Data, that the Enterprise works to resolve.

 

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Star Trek as The Love Boat

One of the better mashups, totally nails it on every level.

And Charo!

 

[1001001]

Its not a slur if its a fact. But whatevs.

Yes, it is a slur.

And arguing with moderator actions in the thread is also not allowed.

So you can either drop it now or you'll earn a reply ban.

Moving on.