It wasn't what she was doing without Jack Ryan it was what Jack Ryan was wanting her to do with him.
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There really isn't.
A.) That wasn't the sequence of things.
B.) Obama was probably going to win anyway.
*I swear; this has become the new Nichols/MLK thing.
That's what came out during the divorce proceedings, yes, but I think the affair with Braga is what spurred Jeri to leave him.
No affair with Braga, possibly no divorce (or at least a later one). Jack Ryan stays in the senate race in 2004.
Now, Obama probably still ends up winning against Jack Ryan for senate in the general. It's Illinois, after all, even considering 2004 wasn't a good year for the Democrats. But he doesn't win with close to 70% of the vote. Might win by 5%-10%. So even if Obama pivots to run for President in 2008, he doesn't look as formidable in the early races (Iowa was a pretty close-run race).
My one quibble with Picard (the show) (well one of my quibbles) is that Seven spent all those years trying to get her humanity back, but in Picard, she still prefers to be called by her Borg name rather than her Human name. In fact seems to hate her Human name when Shaw insists on using it, and takes it as respect when he calls her Seven in the end. I don't think that jibes with wanting her humanity back.
What's in a name?
Given how she has gone by Seven for a vast majority of her life, including after being freed from the Borg, and how she took Borg traits and made them her own (her desire for extreme efficiency, for example), I never saw a problem with her not taking her original name.
There are married women who keep their married names, which are different from their birth names, even when they divorce their spouses because their spouses were abusers. It happens all the time. It's a personal choice. It's not really for others to tell them how to reclaim their identities.
Agreed, plus the family she found on Voyager gave her very human reasons to be attached to the name they called her.
Wow, took me this long to discover this thread! My input:
1. Warp Speed should be well defined. Writers never cared to put in simple math to create a speed chart and distance variation.
2. Five days at Warp 5 to Q'onos. WTF were they thinking?
3. Shields always being absolutely worthless.
1. Warp Speed should be well defined. Writers never cared to put in simple math to create a speed chart and distance variation.
2. Five days at Warp 5 to Q'onos. WTF were they thinking?
3. Shields always being absolutely worthless.
If you found out tomorrow, that your real name Udokai Rozkowitz, had been taken as a child and raised under another name, I don't think you would find it easy or preferable to start calling yourself Udokai. You might come to understand that it's a part of your history, but you would still on some level still be who you are.
The TNG episode "Suddenly Human" touches on that idea. That to force a person to accept an identity they don't identify with says more about the culture imposing it than it's about "helping."
Think about Superman. He accepts that his "real" name is Kal-El. But he is still Clark Kent and identifies with it because it's the identity he's had for most of his life, the identity given to him by the people who raised him, and informs his values (i.e., "truth, justice, and the American way").
When Seven talks about Voyager in Picard, she says she was "born again" aboard Voyager and the crew were her family. Her identity as Seven of Nine is not as the Borg Seven of Nine, but as the Seven of Nine that was a member of Janeway's crew.
Well it was a deadnaming allegory. Which is a little strange for a show about old conservatives battling the woke mind virus affecting all the youth
To me, a big part of season 1 of Picard is based around the idea that Starfleet and the Federation had turned inward, in the same way that societies can when they think of it as a "waste" to help immigrants, especially immigrants fleeing from bad situations, whether it be extreme poverty or an exploding supernova.Well it was a deadnaming allegory. Which is a little strange for a show about old conservatives battling the woke mind virus affecting all the youth
I would argue that if there's an allegory or message for what happens at the end of the season 3, it's not the old conservatives fighting off young woke Starfleet officers. It's that Picard and Enterprise-D crew represent the mainstream version of Starfleet and old Federation values trying to save a Federation that has arrogantly decided to abandon the values it once believed in because a portion of Federation members wanted to "build a wall" around itself out of fear. And those attempts to wall itself off from the rest of the world/galaxy fail spectacularly.
Ultimately, that when you stray from the values of your past, when you allow bad information to infest your society, you end up with an insurrection where a bunch of people are turned into drones attacking your capital on behalf of a narcistic entity that cares only for itself.
The whole aspect of Romulans. who have a bigger area of space as their Star Empire, suddenly becoming poor and hungry refugees was the dumbest thing put on camera.
It's like saying the USA would suddenly become a third world country if New York got nuked, or Europe would turn poor if London got vaporized.
Even in S1 of Picard we see the Romulan Fleet basically go toe to toe in a standoff with the most powerful Federation starships, but yeah there were Romulan refugees scattered everywhere, and they had a sign in English of all languages that said "Romulan Only"
Michael Chabon is a retard.
It's like saying the USA would suddenly become a third world country if New York got nuked, or Europe would turn poor if London got vaporized.
Even in S1 of Picard we see the Romulan Fleet basically go toe to toe in a standoff with the most powerful Federation starships, but yeah there were Romulan refugees scattered everywhere, and they had a sign in English of all languages that said "Romulan Only"
Michael Chabon is a retard.
Well, Nomad, Vejur, and the Doomsday Machine (to say nothing of the entire planet of Eminar Seven) would like a word.
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And the former crew of the USS Excalibur as well...
Nah, in my view, warp is perfectly well defined. Just in in terms of speed or distance, but in terms of plot urgency, which, in my view, is far more important.
Warp 1: we've just discovered warp! Hooray! Any more advanced civs around who can teach us?
Warp 2-4: we're just very heavy bulk cargo (or shuttles)
Warp 4-5: Just sauntering through space, but don't actively need to go anywhere (and reach it in time). Well, unless we're shuttles, mid-22nd century ships, or under environmental laws.
Warp 6: Decent cruising speed to get to our next mission
Warp 7: Let's chase the baddie, but we don't actually want to catch him yet, after all we've still got about 19 minutes of episode left
Warp 8: Things are getting a bit more serious
Warp 9 and up: Now it is an emergency!
The Russians went from controlling an empire that was the largest country the planet has ever known, in terms of area across Europe and Asia, to needing foreign assistance and IMF loans to keep the lights on and run basic utilities after the collapse of the Soviet Union.The whole aspect of Romulans. who have a bigger area of space as their Star Empire, suddenly becoming poor and hungry refugees was the dumbest thing put on camera.
It's like saying the USA would suddenly become a third world country if New York got nuked, or Europe would turn poor if London got vaporized.
Even in S1 of Picard we see the Romulan Fleet basically go toe to toe in a standoff with the most powerful Federation starships, but yeah there were Romulan refugees scattered everywhere, and they had a sign in English of all languages that said "Romulan Only"
Michael Chabon is a retard.
Also, this sort of thing is not out of the norm for the Star Trek universe:
- Spock says the Klingons are "dying" and need Federation assistance after the loss of just one prominent energy-producing moon, Praxis, in The Undiscovered Country. And they have an entire empire of planets and resources too.
- The destruction of Vulcan in the Kelvin Universe makes the Vulcans "an endangered species" even though they're shown to be a major regional power that controls a significant area of space, and has off-world colonies, during the 22nd century (Enterprise era).
Doing another rewatch of SNW and I am ready to admit TPTB should have just set Trek from Discovery onwards as an AU, just to untie their hands from the Taliban canonistas among us.
It's not that the Romulans being broke is unbelievable, it's that they're broke and still floating the most fearsome star fleet in known space.
(I was just reading about the fact that Russia has apparently not built a single ship since being the USSR and they only have one Typhoon class sub in operation.)
The Federation Starfleet is like Worf. They are the top military(!) power in local space. (Yes, local is hella big.) But to show that the Bad Guy is a serious threat we need to see the Feds having the stuffing knocked out of them.
So you get nonsense like A Quality of Mercy. "Hey, if our tiny little scout ship with a cloaking device can successfully make a quick covert border raid then we'll know that it's time to start FULL SCALE WAR with the MASSIVE FLEET OF HUGE WARSHIPS that we have right on the edge of the Neutral Zone (that is a little narrower than a football field). Yeahhhhh. That's the ticket!"
The whole aspect of Romulans. who have a bigger area of space as their Star Empire, suddenly becoming poor and hungry refugees was the dumbest thing put on camera.
It's like saying the USA would suddenly become a third world country if New York got nuked, or Europe would turn poor if London got vaporized.
Even in S1 of Picard we see the Romulan Fleet basically go toe to toe in a standoff with the most powerful Federation starships, but yeah there were Romulan refugees scattered everywhere, and they had a sign in English of all languages that said "Romulan Only"
Michael Chabon is a retard.
While getting a long overdue closer look at Romulan culture was a highlight of season 1 of PICARD, I do agree that their empire collapsing like that was a bit hard to swallow.
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