New look at Sam Wilson’s Captain American and Danny Ramirez as the new Falcon
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That, and losing any of the foundational character development of comic book Parker having to carry his burdens alone (and gaining the strength of independence from it) by having him chasing after Stark like some fanboy.
Is he holding a... Happy Meal?New look at Sam Wilson’s Captain American and Danny Ramirez as the new Falcon
New look at Sam Wilson’s Captain American and Danny Ramirez as the new Falcon
Damn. Sam never got a helmet as Falcon!
Although the costume from The Falcon and the Winter Soldier was more comic-accurate, the new Captain America suit leans more in a militaristic, darker tone, which suits the plot direction of the film.
Another look at the Captain America suit
Chris Hemsworth on Love & Thunder.
“I got caught up in the improv and the wackiness, and I became a parody of myself. I didn’t stick the landing.”
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/m...orth-thor-love-thunder-criticizes-1235886740/
“I got caught up in the improv and the wackiness, and I became a parody of myself. I didn’t stick the landing.”
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/m...orth-thor-love-thunder-criticizes-1235886740/
Deleted scene from Falcon and the Winter Soldier
https://www.ign.com/articles/the-fa...-features-critical-secret-invasion-easter-egg
https://www.ign.com/articles/the-fa...-features-critical-secret-invasion-easter-egg
That's big of him to say, but I still believe that the movie lived and mostly died on some very poor directorial choices. And I say that as a huge fan of Taika Waititi. Love and Thunder is pretty much his only piece of work that I haven't enjoyed. You can't win them all.
I've never seen a better example of a film that was put together in the editing room to be completely different from what was shot. There's a ton of concept art and interviews detailing stuff that never appeared, plus three major actors cut entirely. Biggest of all was the removal of all the scenes of Jane becoming Thor, which you can find plenty of photos and videos of being shot online.
I seem to be one of the few people who liked Love and Thunder better than Ragnarok.
While that's a fair criticism and I was bummed out by the omission of Jane's transformation, I still greatly enjoyed the film we got. It's not perfect but I still had a lot of fun with it and the aforementioned omission is probably my only major criticism.
I still think Love and Thunder is the best Thor film we've gotten so far.
It has problems, certainly, but the Thor franchise has always had problems.
It has problems, certainly, but the Thor franchise has always had problems.
Love and Thunder had a few things going for it. I appreciate the fact that Jane's story was probably the most accurate comic-to-screen adaptation in the entirety of the MCU. I loved the progression of Tonsberg/New Asgard into a tourist destination.
I just feel it fumbled in a few crucial places. Gorr's story just never clicked with me the way, say Loki or The Grandmaster's did. The screeching goats were not funny. If you're going to have a repeating gag going through the movie, it should at least be funny the first time and that was not.
But, at least for me, the movie went off the rails and lost any real sense of suspense once they did the fake out death with Korg. The death scene was on the verge of adding some genuine gravitas to the story amidst the goofiness, and the way they immediately undid it was very jarring. Korg's continued presence didn't add anything of substance to the story. They could have saved a "resurrection" scene for the epilogue if they just absolutely had to bring the character back. Just my opinion.
ETA-- I recall a deleted scene in which the confrontation with Zeus went much differently. In the middle of the confrontation, Thor and Zeus disappear from the arena and reappear in a peaceful pastoral setting. Zeus apologizes for what just happened saying that that's what the crowd expects, and that he shares Thor's concerns about Gorr. Then they have a nice talk about Odin, and then Zeus just gives Thor the lightning bolt saying "I can't give this to my own son because he's an idiot."
I feel that that would have worked much better in the movie than the sideshow circus that we got. And that joke at Hercules expense was as funny if not more so than any of the other jokes in the movie.
I just feel it fumbled in a few crucial places. Gorr's story just never clicked with me the way, say Loki or The Grandmaster's did. The screeching goats were not funny. If you're going to have a repeating gag going through the movie, it should at least be funny the first time and that was not.
But, at least for me, the movie went off the rails and lost any real sense of suspense once they did the fake out death with Korg. The death scene was on the verge of adding some genuine gravitas to the story amidst the goofiness, and the way they immediately undid it was very jarring. Korg's continued presence didn't add anything of substance to the story. They could have saved a "resurrection" scene for the epilogue if they just absolutely had to bring the character back. Just my opinion.
ETA-- I recall a deleted scene in which the confrontation with Zeus went much differently. In the middle of the confrontation, Thor and Zeus disappear from the arena and reappear in a peaceful pastoral setting. Zeus apologizes for what just happened saying that that's what the crowd expects, and that he shares Thor's concerns about Gorr. Then they have a nice talk about Odin, and then Zeus just gives Thor the lightning bolt saying "I can't give this to my own son because he's an idiot."
I feel that that would have worked much better in the movie than the sideshow circus that we got. And that joke at Hercules expense was as funny if not more so than any of the other jokes in the movie.
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I've always felt there was almost certainly some important material left on the cutting room floor from Christian Bale - I think that stuff probably would've elevated the movie a lot.
But honestly, he's still way more interesting than anything Goldblum was doing in Ragnarok. The fantastic introduction scene and the gorgeous black and white motif alone guarantees that. Plus there's actually a point to his character, unlike the guy who only exists to keep Thor from ever interacting with the actual villain of the movie for 90% of the runtime.
I agree with most of this (particularly in regards to the deleted Zeus scene), although I did still enjoy Gorr's story, at least his connection with his daughter. And like Grendelsbayne, I loved black and white sequence.Love and Thunder had a few things going for it. I appreciate the fact that Jane's story was probably the most accurate comic-to-screen adaptation in the entirety of the MCU. I loved the progression of Tonsberg/New Asgard into a tourist destination.
I just feel it fumbled in a few crucial places. Gorr's story just never clicked with me the way, say Loki or The Grandmaster's did. The screeching goats were not funny. If you're going to have a repeating gag going through the movie, it should at least be funny the first time and that was not.
But, at least for me, the movie went off the rails and lost any real sense of suspense once they did the fake out death with Korg. The death scene was on the verge of adding some genuine gravitas to the story amidst the goofiness, and the way they immediately undid it was very jarring. Korg's continued presence didn't add anything of substance to the story. They could have saved a "resurrection" scene for the epilogue if they just absolutely had to bring the character back. Just my opinion.
ETA-- I recall a deleted scene in which the confrontation with Zeus went much differently. In the middle of the confrontation, Thor and Zeus disappear from the arena and reappear in a peaceful pastoral setting. Zeus apologizes for what just happened saying that that's what the crowd expects, and that he shares Thor's concerns about Gorr. Then they have a nice talk about Odin, and then Zeus just gives Thor the lightning bolt saying "I can't give this to my own son because he's an idiot."
I feel that that would have worked much better in the movie than the sideshow circus that we got. And that joke at Hercules expense was as funny if not more so than any of the other jokes in the movie.
Also, I think I'm the only person who loved the screaming goats. Normally that kind of thing would drive me buggy, just like they did for most people, but for some reason, I loved them here.
Nothing improved is the actor's fault--it's the responsibility of the director to get the performance they want. Nicholas Meyer talked about how he had Shatner do his lines over and over until Shatner just delivered the lines straight without any sense of campiness or "playing it up"--and he got a great performance. That said, I liked Love and Thunder a lot more than I liked Ragnarok.
I didn't think they were supposed to be laugh out loud funny. I didn't even know they were a "thing" people complained about.
We know Korg lives though, because he is the one narrating the film. We would have just time jumped to the moment of his resurrection.
I like that idea for a scene.ETA-- I recall a deleted scene in which the confrontation with Zeus went much differently. In the middle of the confrontation, Thor and Zeus disappear from the arena and reappear in a peaceful pastoral setting. Zeus apologizes for what just happened saying that that's what the crowd expects, and that he shares Thor's concerns about Gorr. Then they have a nice talk about Odin, and then Zeus just gives Thor the lightning bolt saying "I can't give this to my own son because he's an idiot."
I feel that that would have worked much better in the movie than the sideshow circus that we got. And that joke at Hercules expense was as funny if not more so than any of the other jokes in the movie.
I agree with you on both points. Looking at all the behind-the-scenes stuff at the time it really seemed like Taika was off in la-la-land (quite possibly with Tessa...) so I think he's got to be at least partially complicit. It seems like L&T has its share of fans though so what do I know.
I liked Ragnarok a lot dispite its flaws, but I hated Love & thunder. I don't think that Taika should have been allowed to co-write it, he had no writing credit on Ragnarok and I don't think its a coincidence that Ragnarok was a lot better. It actually reminds me a lot of Patty Jenkins and Wonder Woman, where she directed a very good film but then wrote the sequel which turned out to be absolute junk.
Taika's biggest problem is, writing wise, he takes nothing seriously. I think that attitude lead to a few problems even with a film he didn't write in Ragnarok, like the pointless deaths of the Warriors Three, but in Love & Thunder its just really bad. Tonally it feels more like a superhero spoof that leslie nielsen could have been the star of in the 80s/90s, and the few times it needs you to care its just impossible. Gorr's kid dying? Jane Foster dying? Who cares, look the screaming goats and Russel Crowe making an ass of himself as Zeus. It feels like the movie cares more about being funny then about telling a story, and then has to try to have serious stakes or character moments that just don't work.
In the end I think the first three Thor movies have flaws, but I'd put them all above Thor 4. But, really, they all pale in comparison to the best thor comics. I wish we'd had a director or writer(s) who had been influenced more by Walt Simonson's Thor run, his Thor is the best version of the character and could have made for some aewsome cosmically mythological stories.
Taika's biggest problem is, writing wise, he takes nothing seriously. I think that attitude lead to a few problems even with a film he didn't write in Ragnarok, like the pointless deaths of the Warriors Three, but in Love & Thunder its just really bad. Tonally it feels more like a superhero spoof that leslie nielsen could have been the star of in the 80s/90s, and the few times it needs you to care its just impossible. Gorr's kid dying? Jane Foster dying? Who cares, look the screaming goats and Russel Crowe making an ass of himself as Zeus. It feels like the movie cares more about being funny then about telling a story, and then has to try to have serious stakes or character moments that just don't work.
In the end I think the first three Thor movies have flaws, but I'd put them all above Thor 4. But, really, they all pale in comparison to the best thor comics. I wish we'd had a director or writer(s) who had been influenced more by Walt Simonson's Thor run, his Thor is the best version of the character and could have made for some aewsome cosmically mythological stories.