Or they can be creative and come up with their own events and dates.
"Warp 7 beauties" = the Daedalus class?
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Or they can be creative and come up with their own events and dates.
I was referring to Travis's book, not the book from TOS.
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I always assumed that the Warp Seven Project wasn't the Daedalus. I agree with others that this design seems older/simpler than the NX and probably wasn't any faster, and likely a bit slower. Personally, I think there was probably a lead ship class after the NX that we didn't see, which would have been in turn followed by the actual Warp Seven ship. There are a number of fanon designs that fit the bill nicely, perhaps the Baton Rouge class or a reimagined version.
I wouldn't even be angry if it were the Walker-Class. They were considered quite old by the 2240's... 80ish years old is pretty old, but not unheard of for starships in Trek.
Really though they are likely something we just haven't seen. There's no reason to assume there were NO ships designed at that period.
I always kind of dismissed this NX-01 concept art by John Eaves as looking to advanced and to close to the Constitution for it to work in the era. But I recently saw some renders by artist Chris Kuhn that really helped to bring it to life.
It doesn't work perfectly.... Personally, I'd give it a little bit more of a Kelvin look, with maybe some pop-up weapon ports, and less "glowy" nacelles. Maybe an NX-01 style dish at the front.....
But it could almost work as an early Federation explorer. After the dust has settled from the Romulan War, and Starfleet is no longer pumping out the utilitarian looking Daedalus class, they finally let the engineers put a little more flare into their designs.
I do like the idea of it being a fairly small ship. The saucer rim being a single deck in height. Sorta a Constitution 0.5.
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I don't like it as an NX-Era ship, but as an early Federation, pre-(even proto-) Constitution-Class? Yeah absolutely. This looks like a solid ship from around 2200.
Looks way better than the NX or the Daedalus. Might be a good design in action.
They certainly help to insert it into the design lineage of the SNW Enterprise. Same with the Bridge window and the illuminated area in front of the Bridge.
Yes, and the SNW Enterprise has those unnecessary cutouts as well. The bridge window and illumination aren't that big a deal, but the cutouts are just superfluous.
They've kinda grown on me. I can't imagine her without them at this point.
I prefer the cutouts. Sure, it's rule of cool, but then super spindly pylons irritate me and I'm told that it's uber fancy super tech so why question it!??!?
Same here.
We all like what we like. I just don’t have a fondness for Eaves’s design attributes, because a lot of them don’t make much sense to me logically.
Far simpler perhaps to say the Bonaventure was NAMED for the 'first true ship to have warp drive installed', maybe.
Which just happens to align with much of what the novel Federation claimed, about the early warp era, too. Possibly heading up the first interstellar warp flights?
I've also always thought a jump to warp 7 was too fast, for Enterprise. Warp 6 was plenty.
But that wasn't what he said.
It's best to just ignore the line rather than trying to come up with some convoluted way to make it fit. It's not like people are trying to come up with reasons why that tombstone said "James R. Kirk."
Mitchell was on a power trip, "You're James R Kirk because I say it and my will be done! Look, your tombstone even says it"
I could be fine with that. I tend to largely ignore TAS wholesale, but there are a number of ways some of the things can be reconciled.
I think going by the spirit of the line though it was very much intended that it was THE ship, which would then be a pre-NX vessel. There's not really an issue with that... they had plenty of warp ships prior to NX-01.
Warp 7 seems fine to me. They're mentioned as new in 2161, after Earth had just fought an interstellar war along with with their more advanced allies and also nearly a decade into a multi-race alliance. We know Earth developed insanely quickly compared to other powers, and also had the benefit of some neighbors who at that point were likely more willing to share some tech.
It seems like Earth probably would have hit Warp 5 much sooner if not for the Vulcans frantically trying to block them from doing so. Once they were able to fully hit the ground running... the advances came quickly. In addition, ENT really makes it seem that Warp 5 is the big hump milestone. Once you hit Warp, Warp 5 is the next big milestone. After that, it's just refinement.
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