I wasn't even born yet.
I'm saying I wouldn't defend the writer's choice in 1,000,000 years.
Star Trek Canon Problems
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I'm saying I wouldn't defend the writer's choice in 1,000,000 years.
Nobody is defending it. What I wanted to say is that the writers' intention is clear.
This is one instance where I think it should be ignored. Yin Yang. Not everyone's positions are absolute 100%. 99% maybe, but not 100%. I agree with Picard in "Justice" when he says there can be no justice when things are absolute. Terrible episode, but a point I agree with.
To me, figuring out Canon is a fun thing. "How does it all fit? How do you reconcile it if it doesn't?" But that's with things like alien makeup, starship designs, histories that seem contradictory, etc. Once we get into social issues, whole other ballgame. At least for me. We all have different thresholds and that one's the one where I draw the line.
I'm very much of the mindset of: the rules are there, but sometimes you just have to say, "To Hell with our orders." To quote Data in First Contact. But, to also quote Spock, in "The Mark of Gideon" (TOS), "I don't do so lightly."
I absolutely did not say that the author's original intention is the one that must then be accepted in the interpretation of the work. There is a current of hermeneutics that deals with precisely this (intentional fallacy). If you understood anything else from my words I'm sorry, obviously I wasn't clear.
You don't want to go down this road, do you?
Not on Easter, I have places to be later on today, which is why I'm up so early. I'm just going chalk it up as we had a big misunderstanding the other day and leave it at that. I figure you didn't mean things the way I was reading them.
I'm sorry about the other day.
I am too. I probably overreacted a bit. Love and War, TrekBBS style!
You are very welcome. Had a ton of fun finding some of these. And yes, they are doing a fantastic job with the aesthetics. If anything, this made me realize that we absolutely need one of these “The Art of” coffee table books chronicling how they made the show. I need glossy photos of all of these props/sets/costumes, damnit! Plus design sketches. Hopefully we’ll get something like that at one point. They did have one for Discovery’s first two seasons, so Strange New Worlds should definitely get one.
Don't you get the memo? SNW can't be canon because there are holes in the pilons, black people do exist for more than an episode and women do different things from saying "Frequencies open" or gushing for our hero
By the way, great job!!!
Don't you get the memo? SNW can't be canon because there are holes in the pilons, black people do exist for more than an episode and women do different things from saying "Frequencies open" or gushing for our hero
By the way, great job!!!
Which, of course, no one here has actually said.
I know.
It can, like much of Trek, be interpreted in many different ways. Much of it is just in the individual watching.
I have no problem with LGBTQ+ representation, in fact I believe it's kind of necessary (c'mon it's a bunch of people stuck on a ship with eachother for a long time, people are going to be doing some awakenings). My problem is not with the gay romance, but the romance at all, really. In previous series we have one or two underlying romances between the main cast that provide tension here and there, but I don't like Trek to focus too much on the intrapersonal stuff. That's a soap opera not a sci-fi drama. And when it comes to trans people, how would we know? Cosmetic surgery is very advanced in the 2200's. Just my two cents though, and I'm sure other people have very different views on this.
I prefer that the characters growth be driven by the story, rather than the story being a sidebar to it. I know that is a rather archaic stance based on current TV, but that is where I'm at.
Unless you're poor Pike sitting in that chair.
And to sidetrack this into current TV as a whole, wtf is up with "past trauma" as a substitute for character building?I prefer that the characters growth be driven by the story, rather than the story being a sidebar to it. I know that is a rather archaic stance based on current TV, but that is where I'm at.
Unless you're poor Pike sitting in that chair.
Past trauma has always been a shortcut in storytelling. See: "The Conscience of the King".
Not so vocally, at least as it seems to me. It feels like every character has some traumatic childhood experience these days.
It has been a staple in Trek for quite a while, if one goes back through the various series. Pike was going through more recent trauma of Rigel XII in "The Cage".
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