The rage returns in the Rigel VII episode, brought to the surface by the environmental effects of the planet.
What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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I mean, Chapel is not going to look good, sadly, because, well, that is what TOS gave us to work with.
True, I had forgotten that one a little. Though, again, I think Pike changing has more to do with the fact that he feels the pressure of time. To lose a bit of certainty and to value life a little differently. I get that people don't change "that much" unless something traumatic happens. I think Pike's counts.
Well there's always an untreated mental breakdown to account for it!
(Possibly) controversial opinion: The demotion of Kirk to Captain in The Voyage Home shows that Starfleet/The Federation have become better in recognizing the Peter principle (and remedying) it than companies today.
Well... It's never been indicated that Kirk was not GOOD as Chief of Starfleet Operations. He just wasn't happy doing it.
Also, "better at"-- It took until he captained the mission that saved Earth once (Voyager), arguably the Federation another time (Khan), pirated a Starship and had to scuttle it, then saved the Earth again.
They're better at it when all the cameras are pointed at them. (I want to see the military tribunal that is led by the sitting President of the US.)
Maybe this is controversial, but I'm watching Discovery season 2 and Ethan Peck's Spock should have kept the beard. I think it looks great.
If that’s not controversial this will be. I actually preferred Ethan Peck and Anson Mount on Discovery s2 than I do on SNW. I feel a slight smugness has crept into Mount’s performance and I don’t like the way the SNW writers are handling either Pike or Spock.
And again, like most of your statements on this subject, you're ignoring the fact that this is a background story taking place off-screen over a long period of time. We have very few individual facts because the show was never really focusing on that story. That doesn't mean we should just assume that obviously nothing happened to make this possible except what few things we saw on screen.
That's like assuming that the DS9 crew are the only people in the Federation actually fighting the war.
And Profit and Lace isn't where it starts. And the Grand Nagus has way more power than any American politician has ever had. And women could vote in New Zealand in 1893. Hell, women who owned land could vote in Friesland or Sweden before the USA even existed. Meanwhile women could not vote in Belgium until 1948 and could not vote at the Federal level in Switzerland until 1971.
All societies are different with different histories and different circumstances. The fact that something couldn't happen so fast in the US doesn't prove it couldn't happen so fast anywhere.
In other words, there were, in fact, clear signs of other people being unhappy. There just weren't many of them because this story and even Ferengi culture in general was never really the focus of the show and is only even mentioned in a handful of episodes.
True, there's no direct indication of that. But there's no indication that he was very good at it, either.
At his disciplinary demotion, they comment "and that as a consequence of your new rank, you be given the duties for which you have repeatedly demonstrated unswerving ability: the command of a Starship." So they do comment on how good he was as a captain, but they don't add 'even though we're deeply sorry to lose you as an Admiral, in which you've shown equal abilities and in which capacity you could have meant even more for the future of Starfleet', or anything to that effect. (In fact, if he really were outstanding as an admiral, they'd probably have come up with a different disciplinary measure, to keep him in that position, though I'll agree that they may have taken into account he didn't like his job).
I don't think he was necessarily 'bad' as an admiral, just that he probably was way better as a captain, and they recognised that.
Yes, sorry about that. I suppose that crept in from my native language. Even when I do/should know the correct expression in English, I won't always spot my own mistakes.
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Ferengi Female rights and status are the focus of three separate episodes: "Rules of Acquisition", "Ferengi Love Songs", and "Profit and Lace". Any of the three could have spared a few seconds of dialogue to let us know that Ferengi culture has been evolving toward equality. None did. Ergo, it really did look like "Ishka waves her magic wand and POOF!! Women go from chattel to full equality".
In storytelling, properly placed details can mean the difference between the plausible and the ludicrous. And if I, an amateur writer who has never profited from his work, can figure this out, professionals should understand it as well.
Regarding the Nagus, his power was great but not infinite. When he tried to unilaterally transform society, he was instantly chucked out of office, and 99.75% of the most influential citizens on his planet weren't even willing to discuss the issue.
Regarding the fact that women's suffrage took so long to spread through Europe, you essentially restated what I said, only from a global perspective: it's a slow process. "Angel One" might have been a mediocre episode, but it at least understood that gender equality comes through evolution rather than revolution. Zeke's changes were plausible only if the groundwork had already been laid.
I find an in-universe explanation thoroughly unnecessary. He's simply played by two different actors in TOS and SNW. Boom. That's it. Just like with all the other characters in SNW that apepared on TOS.
Exactly! M'Benga is the same character in both shows... just given FAR more depth in SNW.
You forgot make money.
Assuming SF is based off of the USN, COSO is a VERY high position, but also one without any real 'power', as is, who advises the Civilian who oversees Starfleet and is a deputy to them, and it's a post that (well, in the US at least) is routinely shifted about.
This somewhat could be something Kirk is more than capable and competent in, as he has had a stint with being 'behind the desk' such as his early return to the Academy, but I doubt it's something he very much enjoys....
I hold that the descriptive adjective for the type of open heart surgery that saved Sarek's life in "Journey to Babel" was not an utterly butchered mispronunciation of "cryogenic" (why would an open heart procedure be cryogenic, and why would a cryosurgical procedure require massive amounts of blood?), but rather, "serogenic" (a term with no 20th or 21st century meaning, but [by comparison with such legitimate medical terms as "serous otitis media" {a middle ear that is inflamed and filled with fluid, typically the result of an infection}], it would imply large amounts of some sort of fluid, most likely blood or blood plasma).
Rewatching Picard Season 1, 2 & 3
The Romulans were right about the Synths, if Picard did not change Soji's mind, the organic beings in the Trek universe would all be dead. Soong lost his influence over them
Raffi calling Picard J.L never bothered me, why expect her relationship with Picard to be the same as his TNG crewmates?
Every generation of Soongs being geniuses interested in the same field was a little ridiculous (yeah it was a way to keep hiring Brent Spiner)
The Romulans were right about the Synths, if Picard did not change Soji's mind, the organic beings in the Trek universe would all be dead. Soong lost his influence over them
Raffi calling Picard J.L never bothered me, why expect her relationship with Picard to be the same as his TNG crewmates?
Every generation of Soongs being geniuses interested in the same field was a little ridiculous (yeah it was a way to keep hiring Brent Spiner)
The show had so much promise.
The Soong obsession shifted to cybernetics in 2154, with Arik Soong pondering moving on from genetic engineering to androids.
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