Spoilers The Controversial Star Wars Opinion Thread

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

Rebels is way better than The Clone Wars. I really really dislike TCW with the exception of the Ahsoka/Darth Maul face off in the final season.

I love the Obi Wan Kenobi series.

I don’t understand the love for Boba Fett. He’s not a very interesting character.

As much as I enjoy The Mandalorian, I can’t remember anyone’s name except for Din Djarin and Grogu.

 

[Dee1891]

Rebels is way better than The Clone Wars. I really really dislike TCW with the exception of the Ahsoka/Darth Maul face off in the final season.

I love the Obi Wan Kenobi series.

I don’t understand the love for Boba Fett. He’s not a very interesting character.

As much as I enjoy The Mandalorian, I can’t remember anyone’s name except for Din Djarin and Grogu.

I'm not a big fan of TCW either, aside from the stories about the clonetroopers. But I do like "Rebels". I think Season 2 is the best thing about "The Mandalorian". I liked "Andor", but I didn't love it. I thought it was overrated. I love "Obi-Wan Kenobi", but I'm not a fan of Episode Four.

 

[Set Harth]

too much of a Fallen Order ripoff?

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

I'm not a big fan of TCW either, aside from the stories about the clonetroopers. But I do like "Rebels". I think Season 2 is the best thing about "The Mandalorian". I liked "Andor", but I didn't love it. I thought it was overrated. I love "Obi-Wan Kenobi", but I'm not a fan of Episode Four.

I quite liked a lot of the episodes that didn’t involve Anakin/Padme/Obi Wan.

I have tried three times to watch it but always give up at season 3/4 with the exception of the final episodes.

I couldn’t get into Andor, Ahsoka, or BOBF.

 

[fireproof78]

I'm not a big fan of TCW either, aside from the stories about the clonetroopers. But I do like "Rebels". I think Season 2 is the best thing about "The Mandalorian". I liked "Andor", but I didn't love it. I thought it was overrated. I love "Obi-Wan Kenobi", but I'm not a fan of Episode Four.

I am not a big fan of TCW, thought Rebels was hit and miss, and enjoyed Season 3 of the Mandalorian. Obi-Wan, as a series does pretty well.

Ahsoka and BoBF probably fall right behind Obi-Wan, then Mandalorian. Andor just is something I enjoy in smaller parts.

 

[Set Harth]

I had various issues with Obi-Wan ( kid Leia outrunning grown men was stupid, the bad guys frequently letting the good guys escape for no discernible valid reason was ridiculous, the Inquisitors were surprisingly almost completely useless, and I think kid Luke was miscast and weird looking ) but I still think it deserves a somewhat better reputation.

 

[Commander Troi]

Rebels is way better than The Clone Wars.

I liked TCW alot, but Rebels had it's shit together from the get go and TCW was wobbly in the first season or two.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Rebels is way better than The Clone Wars.

I never cared for either, but Rebels' significant advantage was the "Twin Suns" episode with its coda to the Obi-Wan / Maul business.

I don’t understand the love for Boba Fett. He’s not a very interesting character.

Some people like the "mystery man behind the mask"--until he wasn't, and was just an overused character who served one purpose in TESB. Lucas responded to the worst of fan desires for a profit, when the character would have been best served as a shadowy one-and-done figure. Now, he's been watered down by the inane AOTC backstory and a ridiculous streaming series.

I had various issues with Obi-Wan ( kid Leia outrunning grown men was stupid

Agreed, and the series was not supposed to make a sight gag out of one of the franchise's key characters, yet that's what happened with Baby Leia outrunning adult men.

and I think kid Luke was miscast and weird looking

Quite true; the child did not bear even a passing resemblance to Hamill or was directed to perform in a manner that would suggest he would bear at least a few, similar traits to his adult version.

but I still think it deserves a somewhat better reputation.

Kind of difficult when it did not earn a better reputation, and in the end, it was another prequel story that did not need to be told, or added any necessary information to what happened in-between ROTS & ANH (not that the period in question required it).

 

[Reverend]

TCW & Rebels are both very different animals by design. The former was a wide ranging anthology show that didn't really have much in the way of an overall plot so much as interconnected character arcs, and as such it took *much* wilder swings at things. That of course means it missed a lot, but it also landed some pretty incredible stuff. Lucas was intentionally pushing the envelope of what was possible, just as he always has done.

Rebels was a much more conventional show, with a clear focus, narrative through-line, and a relatively small cast of characters. So yeah, it was more consistent and didn't get anywhere near TCW's low-lows, but by the same token never quite got up to it's high-highs either.

I still prefer 'Rebels' personally, but preference is all it is. Objectively speaking; TCW is by far the more ambitious and impactful show of the pair.

 

[Set Harth]

Quite true; the child did not bear even a passing resemblance to Hamill or was directed to perform in a manner that would suggest he would bear at least a few, similar traits to his adult version.

Another thing I didn't particularly like is that he only survived due to his plot armor. On the other hand, he was such a minor character in the show overall, contrary to the impression made by the trailer.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Another thing I didn't particularly like is that he only survived due to his plot armor.

Agreed; one would think a prequel series would take the opportunity to show Luke be a bit more active in his own defense, or see hints of his potential. That does not mean he should have actively / consciously used the Force, but he should--at the very least--have some advantage over a regular being (in the way Anakin had with his piloting skills in TPM), which could have been incorporated into his attempt to survive Reva's search / attack. Instead, Luke ran off to become a helpless victim.

On the other hand, he was such a minor character in the show overall, contrary to the impression made by the trailer.

Such was the point of the series: constantly subverting expectations for no justifiable reason: audiences were led to believe Kenobi was focused on Luke--watching over him (his stated mission in ROTS, and in ANH its clear he's always been around, even if he had limited direct contact with Luke), and instead, he was pushed into the background as merely a Child in Danger trope in the final episode, while Kenobi was off-world chasing Leia...nevermind the glaring fact her ANH holographic message had her speak to Kenobi as if she's only ever heard of him through her father's recollection of a record of Obi-Wan's war service, not someone she actually knew on a personal level.

 

[fireproof78]

I never cared for either, but Rebels' significant advantage was the "Twin Suns" episode with its coda to the Obi-Wan / Maul business.

One of the best episodes in the franchise, period.

 

[FredH]

I’m pretty sure it used to be Word Of Lucas that Imperial troops were all volunteer, and I hate that canon now has a lot of them being conscripts (though that is consistent with dialogue in the deleted Biggs-on-Tatooine scene). If a lot of the Stormtroopers don’t even want to be there, that changes them from villains to victims. Which is realistic, but makes it hard to cheer their usual fates.

 

[Ithekro]

I seem to recall it was a mix of volunteers and conscripts. You need an awful lot of troopers to police a galaxy spanning Empire. Even if the Imperial Garrisons on some backwater worlds is like a platoon of Stormtroopers, there are an awful lot of backwater worlds to garrison. Plus the 25,000 Imperial Star Destroyers to put a legion in each.

 

[Reverend]

I seem to recall it was a mix of volunteers and conscripts. You need an awful lot of troopers to police a galaxy spanning Empire. Even if the Imperial Garrisons on some backwater worlds is like a platoon of Stormtroopers, there are an awful lot of backwater worlds to garrison. Plus the 25,000 Imperial Star Destroyers to put a legion in each.

It really depends when you're talking about, because at a certain point Lucas changed his mind based on how upset younger clone wars fans were getting seeing the clones be evil in the OT. Suffice to say that during the production of the PT, they were all clones so far as he was concerned, but by '08-'12-ish, they were conscripts in his book. The EU made up it's own explanations of course to try and bend around that initial statement while also incorporating the numerous stories already told about non-clone stormtroopers; and then did it again when Lucas changed his mind because by now they'd also had Imperial clone stories . . . but that's the the EU all over, isn't it?

 

[JD]

Agreed, and the series was not supposed to make a sight gag out of one of the franchise's key characters, yet that's what happened with Baby Leia outrunning adult men.

Isn't 11 a bit old to be calling her a baby?

 

[cooleddie74]

I call her Kid Leia. That's my shorthand for Vera Lynn Blair in the series.

 

[JD]

Kid Leia sounds better to me.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Or...and hear me out...just call her Leia.

 

[Set Harth]

Isn't 11 a bit old to be calling her a baby?

The character would be 10 at that point, while the actress was 9 during filming ( in fact she had not even turned 9 yet when filming started ).