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How would the Federation have treated Jem'Hadar prisoners of war?

Because I don't want it to overstay its welcome. Too much of a good thing and law of diminishing returns.

Still, it could have lasted a bit longer than it did.

So what happened in the long run? Whe had a lot of quality, it ended and now we have nothing.
 
What I don't understand is the O'Briens. Earth? How much botany can there be left to discover on Earth? And Miles would want to be fixing things. He was happier on DS9 where none of the Cardassian and Federation technology saw eye to eye then he was on the Enterprise, just doing preventative maintenance according to schedule. And I don't really see him as the teaching type, not for a class.
 
What I don't understand is the O'Briens. Earth? How much botany can there be left to discover on Earth? And Miles would want to be fixing things. He was happier on DS9 where none of the Cardassian and Federation technology saw eye to eye then he was on the Enterprise, just doing preventative maintenance according to schedule. And I don't really see him as the teaching type, not for a class.

I think Miles reached a point in his life and career that he would rather take an assignment where he wasn't in danger every day, and his family was safer. Plus, he was apart from Keiko and the kids quite often during the war, and he almost certainly wasn't enjoying that. Plus, O'Brien was very much a teacher and mentor to his engineering crew. Nog in particular... he even said to O'Brien that he learned a great deal from him when he got promoted to ensign. So I can see him going this route. (Plus, given that the war cost Starfleet a LOT of personnel, especially experienced ones, I can see Starfleet wanting to have good, experienced people teaching the next generation of cadets. O'Brien's experience definitely would be useful at the Academy.)

As for Keiko, she can still be a botanist on Earth. Just because she isn't discovering new plants on a regular basis doesn't mean she couldn't teach botany, help make hybrids in an arboretum, etc.
 
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Which is fine. We all go through seasons of life and it's ok to move on to the next thing.

I'd rather move on that feel stuck.
But when there are no good things to move on to?

I'm not happy with what NCIS has become in recent yeras but I still watchit occasionally.

Then you might ask: Why?

Because it's the only thing still worth watching!

Even if it isn't half as bad as it used to be, it 's still better than all that other crap which is aired today. There ain't one single decent series or movie to watch now, just badly written, badly acted and downright boring movies and series.

So I've started re-watching NCIS from the start again on DVD.
And I have started watching DS9 from start on DVD again.

I rather watch DS9 50 times than any of those new series.
This decade must be the most boring ever, at least when it comes to entertaining, such as movies, series, music, books and such.

It will probably be named The Empty Years in some future history book or biography.
 
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But when there are no good things to move on to?

I'm not happy with what NCIS has become in recent yeras but I still watchit occasionally.

Then you might ask: Why?

Because it's the only thing still worth watching!

Even if it isn't half as bad as it used to be, it 's still better than all that other crap which is aired today. There ain't one single decent series or movie to watch now, just badly written, badly acted and downright boring movies and series.

So I've started re-watching NCIS from the start again on DVD.
And I have started watching DS9 from start on DVD again.

I rather watch DS9 50 times than any of those new series.
This decade must be the most broing ever, at least when it comes to entertaining, such as movies, series, music, books and such.

It will probably be named The Empty Years in some future history book or biography.

Really? I am not questioning you because I don't really watch what's on cable and on the air now... but it's gotta be better than when your choices were the three networks and that was it. Those were the empty years.
 
Then you might ask: Why?
I do question that heavily.

I get rewatching shows, because I do that with MASH, and STAR TREK, and Discovery, and SNW and Prodigy and NCIS.

I also watch new things.

And if there is nothing to watch then, weirdly, I don't watch anything. That's more logical to me.:vulcan:

If the worst that can be described about this era is "boring" then I'll take it. Boring is not the worst thing every. Not even in my top 10.
 
But when there are no good things to move on to?

I'm not happy with what NCIS has become in recent yeras but I still watchit occasionally.

Then you might ask: Why?

Because it's the only thing still worth watching!

Even if it isn't half as bad as it used to be, it 's still better than all that other crap which is aired today. There ain't one single decent series or movie to watch now, just badly written, badly acted and downright boring movies and series.

So I've started re-watching NCIS from the start again on DVD.
And I have started watching DS9 from start on DVD again.

I rather watch DS9 50 times than any of those new series.
This decade must be the most broing ever, at least when it comes to entertaining, such as movies, series, music, books and such.

It will probably be named The Empty Years in some future history book or biography.

You need to expand your horizons. There is more to television than a police procedural with a Navy theme and a 1990s space opera that ended a quarter-century ago.
 
There always is something good.

Well, I envy you if you have found something good to watch. I haven't!

Maybe because I live in an European country. I guess that our supply when it comes to TV channels and streming might be a bit limited compared to the US and other countries. As it is now, I have about 20 channels to watch. If you omit the three state own channels which are totally hopeless, there are 17 left who are airing the same new-produced doom-and-gloom crap series and movies. So far, Ive found very little to watch except re-runs of all the NCIS series including the wothless NCIS Hawaii plus re-runs of Without A Trace, Law And Order SVU, Hawaii 5 O and an actually good British criminal series.

Fortunately there is ice hockey to watch, at least two evenings a week.



As for "streaming", I try to avoid it due to previous bad experiences with those available for me.

Really? I am not questioning you because I don't really watch what's on cable and on the air now... but it's gotta be better than when your choices were the three networks and that was it. Those were the empty years.

Unfortunately it isn't, at least not where I live. In fact, there were a lot more to watch about 10 years ago than now.

You can see what's available in my reply to Fireproof 78 above.

I do question that heavily.

I get rewatching shows, because I do that with MASH, and STAR TREK, and Discovery, and SNW and Prodigy and NCIS.

I also watch new things.

And if there is nothing to watch then, weirdly, I don't watch anything. That's more logical to me.:vulcan:

If the worst that can be described about this era is "boring" then I'll take it. Boring is not the worst thing every. Not even in my top 10.

I would rathe describe this era "dystopian" due to the doom-and-gloom crap which is available now.


You need to expand your horizons. There is more to television than a police procedural with a Navy theme and a 1990s space opera that ended a quarter-century ago.

Depends on what you mean by "expanding your horizons".

I just don't watch things which I don't have the slightest interest in.

And as I wrote in a previous post: "This decade must be the most boring ever, at least when it comes to entertaining, such as movies, series, music, books and such".
 
I would rathe describe this era "dystopian" due to the doom-and-gloom crap which is available now.
Which doesn't fit the definition of "dystopian" at all: of, relating to, or being an imagined world or society in which people lead dehumanized, fearful lives : relating to or characteristic of a dystopia

I mean, boring is one thing, but dehumanized? Yeah, I don't see it.

Well, I envy you if you have found something good to watch. I haven't!
Because I'm not looking for pure entertainment. I despite pure entertainment and regard it as escapism. I look for things to challenge, to engage. If I'm not watching a show, I'm watching lectures on language, archeology, psychology, etc. We have the largest database of knowledge right now in the history of human kind!

Boring? I just struggle hard with that descriptor. :wtf:
 
Contemporary television...where effrontery, profanity and vulgarity are apparent requisites of heroism and - concerning messaging/lessons - the cart comes before the horse?
 
Which doesn't fit the definition of "dystopian" at all: of, relating to, or being an imagined world or society in which people lead dehumanized, fearful lives : relating to or characteristic of a dystopia

I mean, boring is one thing, but dehumanized? Yeah, I don't see it.


Because I'm not looking for pure entertainment. I despite pure entertainment and regard it as escapism. I look for things to challenge, to engage. If I'm not watching a show, I'm watching lectures on language, archeology, psychology, etc. We have the largest database of knowledge right now in the history of human kind!

Boring? I just struggle hard with that descriptor. :wtf:
I like escapism because I don't like the society of today. I sincerely hate the 2020's.

I do read a lot, biographies, history and such wich has nothing with Star Trek and similar things to do.

But even those books and potential TV programs have become infested with a lot of crap, political correctness and authors and commentators who are trying to pushing their views on me.

Which makes me go even more for escapism.
 
They would treat them like any other prisoner. That is because most Jem'Haddar would likely kill themselves before they surrender. On the other hand if some were captured and they didn't do that then you can assume they would have a desire to keep living. They would I am sure be held in places that somehow block their ability to be invisible. Also they would I am guessing be giving some kind of drug that is close to Ketracel White but not addictive. I am also guessing a Starbase prison like Eddington was out as opposed to the New Zealand one. That is because if they escaped they would be a instant danger to planetary civilians were as the starbase ones are likely filled with mostly Starfleet officers.
 
But even those books and potential TV programs have become infested with a lot of crap, political correctness and authors and commentators who are trying to pushing their views on me.
“Infested with political correctness”, eh? Yeah, right. Are you again complaining about shows somehow “over-doing“ diversity or some non-sense like that? Because I remember last time you weren’t able to make anything that resembled a cogent argument defending that ridiculous view.

And before you're trying to paint me as being “offended” … no, I’m actually just amused by the mental image of someone trying to watch television and feeling angry because they are constantly confronted with characters with certain skin-colors, sexualities or genders. :lol:
 
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Pretty sure there would never be Jem’Hadar prisoners of war, because they would kill themselves before ever being taken prisoner.

For the most part that would be true but you would still likely have a few who wouldn't do that. Like that one guy who wanted Bashir to help him find a cure to their addiction to the white in "Hippocratic Oath." Just like how Klingons don't believe in surrender yet we have seen them do it more than a few times over the years.
 
I suggest that, if a group of Jem'Hadar had been taken prisoner by the Federation, and were subsequently executed, the Dominion would respect that.

Meaning: If the Federation expects the Dominion to treat Federation prisoners humanely - by negotiating and sending them home - then shouldn't the Federation respect Dominion cultural values in the same manner?

So if the Dominion would expect any Jem'Hadar prisoners to be executed (or commit suicide), and the Federation complies with that request, wouldn't that be a good thing?

It would mean that the Federation respects the Dominion enough to give any captured prisoners the honorable death that they deserve - by swift execution.

The Federation would never execute Dominion prisoners. They might allow them to kill themselves though on the grounds of it being part of their culture. Worf was able to kill Duras and get a pass since it was seen as okay by Klingon Culture and well he did it again when he almost killed Kurn on DS9 and even Picard was saying that it would be okay for Worf to kill himself in "Ethics."
 
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