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Will Sam Beckett Return Home? NBC Orders Quantum Leap Reboot Pilot

I guess I'm the only one who went "Hey, it's Lou Diamond Phillips!" when he first appeared. :lol:
Not the only one, but I guess one has to be 50 or older to have had no trouble…:lol:

Ben's "memories" don't change.

The past and reality change every week, from his muddling about, but he's still the same dude from before he first leapt, no matter what freaking shit he has done to time.

Changing the past does not change Ben.

Everytime they have changed the past, in every episode, Hannah's reality and memories of her reality have changed with the timeline.

So two horrible possibilities.

1. Ben is only in the pasts that he remembers. Everytime he changes time before all the episodes we saw, nothing we saw ever happened.

2. Everytime Ben changes the past, he still leaps into the timezones we saw, but things play out differently, because there are infinite Ben's rallying across time, each connected to their own 2023 unaware of the multiverse... Which means that Hannah is always meeting Ben's who have met different Hannahs' kinda like how Marty McFly kept making out with alt-Jennifer in the revised Biff sucks 1985, even though she was no one he had ever met before, but teenage relationships are superficial, so it hardly matters.
And, here’s another one (Guy Gardener post).
 
Okay, I finally saw the Cairo episode. Always lovely to see Azita Ghanizada, and the location work was terrific. I loved that Ben was reflexively respectful enough to take off his shoes in the mosque.

Advancing the romance story with Hannah was kind of nice, but it raises issues. They never think about the people Ben leaps into on this show. They were talking about the possibility of Ben inhabiting this guy's body forever, and nobody wondered what would happen to the original host. Not to mention the consent issues if Ben slept with Hannah while in another man's body.

I'm ambivalent about the whole "I failed the mission" element here. I've often complained about how this show usually makes it so obvious what the purpose of the leap is, as opposed to the original where the real purpose of the leap was frequently a puzzle that Sam and Al had to figure out as they went, making it more of a mystery show than just a mission-of-the-week show. When Sam failed at a goal Ziggy had suggested, it was a sign that Ziggy's guess had been wrong and he was really there for a different reason. Here, there was never any significant doubt about the objective and it just turned out that she was still alive after all. It did kind of bug me that they just took it for granted that there was no other possible reason for the leap. But on the other hand, it was interesting to see Ben and the team reacting to the belief that he'd failed in the leap, which is a story we wouldn't have gotten if they'd instead looked for an alternative reason for the leap. So in this instance, at least, that generally annoying habit of the remake actually worked to the story's advantage.

I figured out ahead of time that the episode wouldn't end with a tease of Ben's next leap, since they wouldn't have filmed it yet. I imagine it was probably intended that way even before the strike, though, given that it ended on a cliffhanger in the present, as it often does.


her admitting to him she walks up to strangers to ask them if they are Ben :lol:

I would expect she only does it with people who look at her in ways that might be recognition, like Ben did here, or who otherwise act out of character or unfamiliar with their circumstances. Or people who talk to themselves.
 
Watching season two (four episodes into it), I get Knight Rider reboot vibes after they cut its budget and retooled the show half way through its short run.

Not in love with the love triangle. Show feels aimless. Hopefully, as I get through some more episodes, this changes. And the show still lacks the Sam and Al chemistry and heart from the original.
 
Watching season two (four episodes into it), I get Knight Rider reboot vibes after they cut its budget and retooled the show half way through its short run.

If they'd cut the budget, I doubt they would've added two new recurring cast members and paid for location filming in Cairo. And the story changes don't feel like a network-imposed retool to try to salvage a failing show, just the kind of sophomore-season changes a modern writing staff will dream up to create new complications for the characters and give the season a distinct arc from the first.
 
For anyone who listens to the Quantum Leap podcast, some awful news.

Matt Dale, co-host (and author of the excellent Quantum Leap reference books "Beyond the Mirror Image") died on Christmas day. Complications due to a seizure. :(
 
Hey so near the middle of season 1

Was Magic the guy Sam leaped into during one of the original Quantum Leap episodes with Scott Bakula? The way he described it didn't make sense I thought the original people end up in a waiting room and not passed out.
 
Hey so near the middle of season 1

Was Magic the guy Sam leaped into during one of the original Quantum Leap episodes with Scott Bakula? The way he described it didn't make sense I thought the original people end up in a waiting room and not passed out.
Yes.
Magic was the guy Sam leapt into in The Leap Home Part 2. The new show has 'tweaked' the perspective of the Leapee (or that of Magic, at the very least) for their own purposes.
 
Yes.
Magic was the guy Sam leapt into in The Leap Home Part 2. The new show has 'tweaked' the perspective of the Leapee (or that of Magic, at the very least) for their own purposes.

I figured as much..... Weird to do that but hey it is what it is.

I'm the only person on Earth that didn't mind the Knight Rider reboot, noticed someone earlier mentioning it.

I have a crush on Addison.

Hang on if they did away with the waiting room and Ben keeps leaping, where is Ben's body?
 
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Hey?

What if this isn't time travel?

What if Ziggy has created a vast artificial copy of reality from one end of time to the other.

Of course there's a Ziggy inside that AR, doing that same thing, and a Ziggy inside that AR doing the same thing, and a Ziggy inside that Thing doing the same than, and...

You go inside nesting dolls and fake people for long enough, artificial constructs can be excused for thinking that they are time travelling and not just fake people.

Or Sam and Ben digitized themselves, like in Tron, and calling it time travel is just short hand, since they are exploring history, even if it is only a copy of real history.

It's not a perfect hypothesis, but I'm still aggravated by the home team being unfazed by changes to reality moshing around their every day lives outside of their job.
 
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Hey?

What if this isn't time travel?

What if Ziggy is has created a vast artificial copy of reality from one end of time to the other.

Of course there's a Ziggy inside that AR, doing that same thing, and a Ziggy inside that AR doing the same thing, and a Ziggy inside that Thing doing the same than, and...

You go inside nesting dolls and fake people artificial constructs can be excused for thinking that they are time travelling and not just fake people.

Or Sam and Ben digitized themselves, like in Tron, and calling it time travel is just short hand, since they are exploring history, even if it is only a copy of real history.

It's not a perfect hypothesis, but I'm still aggravated by the home team being unfazed by changes to reality moshing around their every day lives outside of their job.


Yes well shouldn't the current day be filled with changes that both Sam and Ben made?
 
Yes well shouldn't the current day be filled with changes that both Sam and Ben made?

"It is".

They keep saying the "time line has changed" every week.

But if the Time Line had changed, they shouldn't know about it.

But of course if they knew about the changes, then they haven't been changed.

Maybe they don't personally remember changes to the timeline, and Ziggy is just telling them stories that they chose to believe?

What if Ziggy lies?
 
Yes well shouldn't the current day be filled with changes that both Sam and Ben made?

We've seen a few scenes of the team in the present reacting to changes in history as they happen, although somehow they still remember that the timeline has changed, rather than being changed along with it. The new show hasn't bothered to explore the prickly questions there any more than the original did. (The Ashley McConnell tie-in novels to the original series regularly focused on the team at the Project much like the new show does. In McConnell's version, Al was aware of the history shifts because he was neurally linked to Ziggy and Sam, but the rest of the team's memories changed when Sam changed history, so they had no perception of the constant subtle alterations to reality that Al and Ziggy were aware of.)


But Ziggy can't lie it's an AI or is it a sentient AI?

The original Ziggy was sentient (or certainly seemed that way), but the current one is apparently a nonsentient namesake.
 
Any sentient computer, is not going to want to work for free, or work for less than they value their time, just like a normal person.

Ziggy may be working to keep the power running, which means that he is under a constant threat of execution, if unplugging him is murder, which is slavery.

Ziggy can probably pay to keep his power on in millions of other ways, other than keeping Project Quantum Leap running, like abusing the stock market, with privileged information because he knows what every human being in the world has ever said and will have said, so Ziggy has all the insider information..

Ziggy only does his job, because he feels like it.
 
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All caught up.

The one is Cairo was a lost opportunity. Having Ben stuck would have been a nice cliffhanger. Instead, we have this love triangle thing going on that's rather meh.
 
Having Ben stuck would have been a nice cliffhanger.
Would it though? We know he'd have to leap eventually anyway since otherwise, there's no show. So rather than spending the next couple of months wondering "is he stuck there?" we'd be thinking "we have to wait a couple months to see how this ends?"

Besides, this wasn't supposed to be a midseason finale. It's only because of the actors strike we're getting a midseason hiatus. With that in mind, there's no way they would have ended the episode on a cliffhanger anyway.
 
With that in mind, there's no way they would have ended the episode on a cliffhanger anyway.

Technically, don't most QL episodes end on cliffhangers? Albeit the kind of cliffhanger they did in shows like Lost in Space or The Time Tunnel where the closing scene of one episodic story was a teaser clip from the next one. (For All Mankind does that on a season-to-season level.)
 
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