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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

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FreezeC77 said:
How bout Robert Downey Jr returns to the MCU to play Kang?

He showed range in Tropic Thunder that could pull it off...

:devil:
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^ Formula for Disney/Marvel to crumble overnight.

Dee1891 said:
If Marvel drops Majors, it might as well drol the whole multiuniverse arc. It wasn't amounting to much, thanks to the franchise's writing staff and the producers.
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No, it was not amounting to much-other than another build up to endless superheroes running around doing...something, and making noise doing it, because its the "biggest_____________to threaten life ever!!!" (aka too many Marvel comics of the 80s).

EmoBorg said:
My choice of actors for the new baddie in MCU.

1) John Boyega. He can act and i do believe that he deserve better than how he got treated in the last two star wars that he was in.
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Boyega has said he's not interested. Good for him. After Boyega rightfully accused Lucasfilm/Disney for the racist mistreatment he had to endure, he would be a fool to shame himself by essentially working with the parent company again, which would be a decision going against what he said in 2020:

"What I would say to Disney is do not bring out a Black character, market them to be much more important in the franchise than they are and then have them pushed to the side,” he told GQ in 2020. “It’s not good. I’ll say it straight up.”
 
M'rk son of Mogh said:
The article doesn't say they're abandoning Kang. It says what we've been reading all along up to this point: that it's a "possibility", along with other obvious options.

We know of no definitive path they're choosing.
Heck, they probably don't know yet.
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That’s business speak for it’s over, and we’ll sort it out after the holidays.
 
On the one hand, Kang was pretty soundly defeated in Ant-Man 3 and so it’s no massive deal to the vast majority of the audience if he never appears again.

In a few years, one or two of them may ask ‘whatever happened to that Kang guy?’

So they could easily, easily pivot into having the Beyonder as the catalyst for Secret Wars and put something else in place for Avengers 5.

On the other, they can just as easily recast Kang and try to stick the landing of The Multiverse Saga aka ‘Difficult Second Saga’
 
The Knappos said:
On the one hand, Kang was pretty soundly defeated in Ant-Man 3 and so it’s no massive deal to the vast majority of the audience if he never appears again.
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Except that He Who Remains and Kang were both worried about a massive, existential threat that would befall the multiverse if they weren't there to stand against it, and we saw the Council of Kangs at the end of Quantumania. Something should be done to address that issue meaningfully rather than sweep it under the rug.
 
Christopher said:
Except that He Who Remains and Kang were both worried about a massive, existential threat that would befall the multiverse if they weren't there to stand against it, and we saw the Council of Kangs at the end of Quantumania. Something should be done to address that issue meaningfully rather than sweep it under the rug.
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There were concerned, yes. But their concerns were confined to D+, which isn’t ubiquitous. And Ant-Man punched the primary subject of their concern to death in the palantír.
 
Christopher said:
Except that He Who Remains and Kang were both worried about a massive, existential threat that would befall the multiverse if they weren't there to stand against it, and we saw the Council of Kangs at the end of Quantumania. Something should be done to address that issue meaningfully rather than sweep it under the rug.
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The Kang driven multiverse could easily lead into the incursions and the "Time Runs Out" storyline. Having Doom erase the Kangs, seize control and create Battleworld would solve the problem AND realign with the comics.

Another Kang variant with a different face could always survive. In fact a LOT of character variants with different faces could survive Battleworld and the Secret Wars. Iron Man, Cap, Natasha, anyone too expensive...
 
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I'd like to nominate Charles Parnell (The Last Ship, Top Gun: Maverick) as an older, wiser, and thus all the more dangerous, Kang.
 
The Knappos said:
There were concerned, yes. But their concerns were confined to D+, which isn’t ubiquitous.
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No, they weren't. As I said, Kang in Quantumania warned Scott of a much greater threat that would come if he were defeated. The final moment before the credits was Scott reminding himself and the audience of that warning, and the post-credits scene explicitly showed thousands of different Kangs getting hyped up to go into action. That is the same threat that He Who Remains warned of in Loki, that his countless other variants would launch a war that would tear the multiverse apart. Which is why Quantumania's other post-credits scene was a clip from Loki season 2.
 
Christopher said:
No, they weren't. As I said, Kang in Quantumania warned Scott of a much greater threat that would come if he were defeated. The final moment before the credits was Scott reminding himself and the audience of that warning, and the post-credits scene explicitly showed thousands of different Kangs getting hyped up to go into action. That is the same threat that He Who Remains warned of in Loki, that his countless other variants would launch a war that would tear the multiverse apart. Which is why Quantumania's other post-credits scene was a clip from Loki season 2.
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Scene: The Beyonder vaporises the council of Kangs in seconds.

job: done
 
The Knappos said:
Scene: The Beyonder vaporises the council of Kangs in seconds.

job: done
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Which would be bad, lazy writing. I already said that's not what I want, and I doubt that any competent storyteller would settle for such a crude approach. They've set this up as a major problem, and it would insult the audience's intelligence to cavalierly dispose of it like that. I hope they find a solution that respects the integrity of the narrative, that resolves what they've set up in an organic way rather than just abandoning it arbitrarily.
 
Saul said:
There has been some speculation that Marvel might not be able to recast the character due to some contract clause. Which means they'd have no choice but to go in another direction.
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A War Machine Clause? Interesting, but would Marvel ever want an actor enough to agree to it?
 
Christopher said:
Which would be bad, lazy writing. I already said that's not what I want, and I doubt that any competent storyteller would settle for such a crude approach. They've set this up as a major problem, and it would insult the audience's intelligence to cavalierly dispose of it like that. I hope they find a solution that respects the integrity of the narrative, that resolves what they've set up in an organic way rather than just abandoning it arbitrarily.
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You say this a lot. A concept or idea cannot be itself bad/lazy writing. It’s in the execution.
 
The Knappos said:
You say this a lot. A concept or idea cannot be itself bad/lazy writing. It’s in the execution.
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I mean, it's basically the same thing that Loki did when they casually showed a bunch of Infinity Stones in a drawer. You make clear how insignificant the previous threat was by moving on from it quickly, and not even treating it seriously.
 
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