Although, Strange New Worlds kinda took away the 4th wall when it did the crossover with Lower Decks and became 2-dimensional.
Or...
They were drunk.
And we happened to be seeing it through their perspective.
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Or...
And we happened to be seeing it through their perspective.
I've never gotten to do it at the end of an episode while looking (almost) squarely into the camera.
If we're talking about the SNW musical episode, my assumption was, similar to all of the music in Star Trek episodes, the instrumentation was piped in to the viewer as part of the production, not actually present. Within the setting, they were all singing acapella.
No, making a quip to the room full of people in general is not the same as talking to the audience.
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We'll agree to disagree. 
No, Pike directly comments about hearing music and the crew also reacts to hearing music before someone starts singing. I suppose we could say that Enterprise herself was contributing the music, as it's computer systems were affected by the anomaly.
I've been very drunk, but never so much as to think I'm a cartoon.Or...
They were drunk.
And we happened to be seeing it through their perspective.
that I recall
They never said they thought they were cartoons.
You've never seen the camera?
I've never even been in an episode.
Bingo!
And he was facing in the direction of Amanda and Sarek (Chapel was also in the room, and she was pretty close to where Amanda and Sarek were), so he definitely wasn't talking to the audience.
The character doesn't have to look into camera and address the audience in order be said to "break the fourth wall."
The only context within which McCoy would plausibly regard himself as never getting the last word in conversations with his shipmates to such an extent that it merits comment is one in which he understands himself to be a player in discrete scenes having dramatic beginnings and resolutions. For that moment he has become aware of himself as a character in a story.
It's pretty obvious.
The only context within which McCoy would plausibly regard himself as never getting the last word in conversations with his shipmates to such an extent that it merits comment is one in which he understands himself to be a player in discrete scenes having dramatic beginnings and resolutions. For that moment he has become aware of himself as a character in a story.
It's pretty obvious.
I guess you've never been in a similar situation... making a comment like that while others are around? In your entire life?
Because I've done exactly that. So has my mom, both my grandparents (when they were alive), my wife, her mom (frequently, actually), her dad (from the years I was around him when he was alive), her sister, both of our nephews, most of my friends, at least half of the people I've worked with over the years, my current boss, several of my former bosses... I could go on.
But that must mean we all 'understand ourselves to be players in discrete scenes having dramatic beginnings and resolutions, and for that moment we have become aware of ourselves as characters in a story.'
Of course, that means 'it's pretty obvious.'
I would hope so. Otherwise that would be strange.
She was in Hill Street Blues and Murder One, other shows of his, and may have shown up on LA Law or NYPD Blue, I can't say for certain. Bochco had a set of his favorites, that he used whenever possible.
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