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1974 Faceoff: Pray for the Wildcats vs. The Questor Tapes!

Which one are you watching?

  • Pray for the Wildcats

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The Questor Tapes

    Votes: 12 100.0%

  • Total voters
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I can't vote because "neither" is not an option.

We had one TV and my parents watched Cannon and Kojak (and I was in bed by Kojak). And I know my sister and I watched Sonny and Cher, so that left both of these TV movies unwatched. To this day, I still haven't seen Questor.

But if I were an adult then and I didn't feel like the cop dramas, Wildcats because Shatner.
 
I watched this when it originally aired and this thread made me watch it again, it's even better than I remember!!!! lol Also, makes me wonder when some enterprising individual is going to recreate those cool Baja Wildcats jackets!!!!

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70's TV at its best!!!
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I can't vote because "neither" is not an option.
Intentionally so. I wanted people to make a choice.
But if I were an adult then and I didn't feel like the cop dramas, Wildcats because Shatner.
So you'd vote for Wildcats, then.

Again, I'm not asking people to reconstruct their actual life circumstances of 1974. I'm asking people to imagine that you're actually you, an adult person, making the choice in 1974 of which one of these two shows to watch. It's a thought experiment to prompt conversation. I'm amazed that some people are answering "Well, I was a kid then and I couldn't decide what my parents watched." I was a kid then myself. Use your imagination.
 
I would watch Questor in that I would be mildly interested in seeing Rodenberry's other suggested programmes. I'd be looking at it as part of the ongoing consideration of the difference between GR's actual contribution(s) to ST and the mythology (which GR actively encouraged) that has grown up. It is rare that I am interested in watching programmes "just because" it stars X.

In a real life situation, I'd prefer to read a book rather than watch either but as @JonnyQuest037 says, we aren't talking about RL
 
Intentionally so. I wanted people to make a choice.

So you'd vote for Wildcats, then.

Again, I'm not asking people to reconstruct their actual life circumstances of 1974. I'm asking people to imagine that you're actually you, an adult person, making the choice in 1974 of which one of these two shows to watch. It's a thought experiment to prompt conversation. I'm amazed that some people are answering "Well, I was a kid then and I couldn't decide what my parents watched." I was a kid then myself. Use your imagination.

OK relax, I took part and you got your answer. No need for the lecture.
 
That cast is still amazing to this 70's rerun kid. Sherriff Andy, Captain Kirk, Mike Brady! All in one macho assed movie!

If you want Sean Connery and John Wayne in the same movie, you'll have to settle for separate scenes.

Yes, not to mention it also has Angie Dickenson (Police Woman) AND Loraine Gary (Jaws).

Aha. Universal production?

It's a thought experiment to prompt conversation. I'm amazed that some people are answering "Well, I was a kid then and I couldn't decide what my parents watched." I was a kid then myself. Use your imagination.

Which it did. The truth's hardly that amazing. Nor's your third sentence. We are.
 
That's like watching a can of soda pop fizz versus watching my ex spread social diseases. Just not necessarily in the same order as the poll choices listed above. I'll go for the bubbly Questor every time, I don't care how good an actor Robert Reed was! Now imagine if that were a very special episode of Questor... :shifty:
 
I would watch Questor in that I would be mildly interested in seeing Rodenberry's other suggested programmes. I'd be looking at it as part of the ongoing consideration of the difference between GR's actual contribution(s) to ST and the mythology (which GR actively encouraged) that has grown up. It is rare that I am interested in watching programmes "just because" it stars X.

In a real life situation, I'd prefer to read a book rather than watch either but as @JonnyQuest037 says, we aren't talking about RL

Seconded; just having an actor name in there doesn't equate to instant perfection due to number of variables involved. After trying to sit through "Joe's Apartment" I realized how dumb it was just to puppy from movie to movie to tv show to movie because X name is in it. Not that that doesn't stop me either, of course...

If nothing else, it's cool that some of Roddenberry's ideas made it into TNG (e.g. Data = Questor, et al). Considering how other androids done in 70s sci-fi (like "Logan's Run"*), Questor could have been quite different, one way or another... so, nope, the 80s weren't all bad...

* Seriously, forget the slags aimed at TNG in 1987 regarding "Waah, Data is the most human character, waaaah!", look up 70s sci-fi and overly-stoic future-humans** with the over-the-top android are almost commonplace. Apart from "Quark", of course - dated or not, that spoof definitely paved the way for the sci-fi spoof subgenre best personified*** by the likes of "Red Dwarf" and THHTTG...

** Especially in LR, which is ostensibly a hedonistic free-for-all society and yet they all act exponentially more formal than Jean-Luc Picard could ever be, oddly...

*** IMHO, YMMV, AFAIK, EIEIO​
 
It is rare that I am interested in watching programmes "just because" it stars X.
Which is just as well.

While there are a small handful of actors who manage to shine even when the script, the rest of the cast, the direction, the budget, etc. are conspiring to bring a movie down, that will never be the same as making a bad movie good. It just means that there may be a few moments between the opening titles and "The End" where it's temporarily less awful.

I can't think of anything ever made that's worth watching solely because [actor name here] is in it. That way disappointment lies, and it's certainly true of Shatner, who played a leading role in some truly execrable flicks.
 
Back in the day, I watched any movie or TV show that had my favorite actors in it. For example, whether it was Pray for the Wildcats, Kingdom of the Spiders or Disaster on the Coastliner, I was interested because I was a fan of William Shatner the actor. Or Larry Hagman: I got into Dallas because I was a fan of I Dream of Jeannie. Wound up I enjoyed Dallas a hell of a lot on its own. Same with Coastliner and Kingdom of the Spiders (but Wildcats was pretty bad).

I used to have a HUGE library of random TV movies with these guys in them.
 
Which is just as well.

While there are a small handful of actors who manage to shine even when the script, the rest of the cast, the direction, the budget, etc. are conspiring to bring a movie down, that will never be the same as making a bad movie good. It just means that there may be a few moments between the opening titles and "The End" where it's temporarily less awful.

I can't think of anything ever made that's worth watching solely because [actor name here] is in it. That way disappointment lies, and it's certainly true of Shatner, who played a leading role in some truly execrable flicks.

Including "Kingdom of the Spiders"?

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They forgot to say "It was a dark and stormy night!". I'm sure audiences took it seriously enough, but something about it seems unintentionally funny. Despite a slow build-up to an almost predictable conclusion, the ending was still suitably horrific, however. Yeah, maybe it was silly in a way, but do they play it straight - no send-ups - and in a way that actually felt plausible. That's the best kind of silly.

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Gotta admit, the music is great and the extras are doing a genuinely impressive job. Even the rubber spider affixed to the extra's butt. If anything, the lady with the baby carriage would mean something else, if this was too many years past the cusp of the baby boom era. Definitely would be intentional camp had this been made a decade later... and by 1986, they knew how to do remakes right thanks to "The Fly". Both versions are actually quite good, but don't tell anyone since I'm supposed to hate reboots... maybe it's the ratio of successes versus flops. Meh, it's all up to individual taste... like Soylent Green, but I digress again. Something about 70s horror flicks... oh, also see "Pirahna", as it's the only "Jaws" copycat that's any good and it is amazing how well it actually holds up... both of them, rather... They're surprising fun and there's nothing fishy about those two flicks...

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To compare, the music here definitely is silly and overdone - especially for the sake of melodrama (yuck), as it's also managing to work against the acting - in a scene that even I have to admit becomes overly long. Cut to the next scene with the other characters and wait for him to break in or whatever it was. And pass the ritalin too, this movie was too fast-paced... oh wait, it's the other way around...

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Spoiler alert: Good casting. Not so sure on the song used as that actually is campy, but good casting!
 
Back in the day, I watched any movie or TV show that had my favorite actors in it. For example, whether it was Pray for the Wildcats, Kingdom of the Spiders or Disaster on the Coastliner, I was interested because I was a fan of William Shatner the actor. Or Larry Hagman.

After ALIEN came out, I began to truly appreciate character acting. I tracked down most of the major appearances of the Nostromo Seven, which exponentially led into more cast trackings over the years.*

Gotta admit, the music is great and the extras are doing a genuinely impressive job.

At least some of the music was lifted/borrowed/stolen from THE OUTER LIMITS....including the last scene's. I always find it odd when a theatrical cheapie raids TV soundtracks in that way.

*(and Tom Skerritt reunited with four ALIEN castmates in later movies over time.)**

**(if you count CONTACT as a ''reunion.'')
 
At least some of the music was lifted/borrowed/stolen from THE OUTER LIMITS....including the last scene's. I always find it odd when a theatrical cheapie raids TV soundtracks in that way.
The Twilight Zone actually. A few episodes were pillaged, as were some cues which wound up in the KPM Music library. Some were recognizable from the 1968 Spider-Man cartoon and some old UK Quatermass productions.

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I found a bunch of them on line years ago.
 
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