Star Trek:The Next Iteration doesn't have the same ring to it.
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I thought about a comic where it's Star Trek: The Same Generation.
How the 1701-D crew had learned the Edo customs before meeting any of them as they have no 'puters and stuff, all while saying* things like "sounds wonderful for the children and the kids need fresh air", "we found nothing worrisome about their laws, just common sense stuff, whatever those are", "they all boink like bunnies at the drop of a hat", "there are no downsides in going down, but there's this sensor glitch from out there in orbit so our new ship is probably already broken", and "Let's let Wesley go down to see if the younger folk will like it!"
* paraphrased,, all in direct chronological order -- and in the same scene!!
For the transcript, direct and proper, especially if you don't want to rewatch the episode like how I just did:
The Next Generation Transcripts - Justice (chakoteya.net)
* paraphrased,, all in direct chronological order -- and in the same scene!!
For the transcript, direct and proper, especially if you don't want to rewatch the episode like how I just did:
The Next Generation Transcripts - Justice (chakoteya.net)
I'd have just called it Star Trek: The Next Era, seeing how even those crews aboard the subsequent 2 Enterprises, B & C still dress & seem like Kirk's A crew. For that matter just "Star Trek: The Next Century" would've sufficed.
Star Trek:Enterprise-D would be lame, too.
How the 1701-D crew had learned the Edo customs before meeting any of them as they have no 'puters and stuff, all while saying* things like "sounds wonderful for the children and the kids need fresh air", "we found nothing worrisome about their laws, just common sense stuff, whatever those are", "they all boink like bunnies at the drop of a hat", "there are no downsides in going down, but there's this sensor glitch from out there in orbit so our new ship is probably already broken", and "Let's let Wesley go down to see if the younger folk will like it!"
* paraphrased,, all in direct chronological order -- and in the same scene!!
For the transcript, direct and proper, especially if you don't want to rewatch the episode like how I just did:
The Next Generation Transcripts - Justice (chakoteya.net)
There is so much about that episode that just doesn't work. And it makes Tasha come off as incredibly incompetent, since they have her claim that she reviewed the laws and customs and it's all "sensible stuff". Then she spends the rest of the episode flirting with half-naked Edo hunks and doesn't do much even Wesley (a person she supposedly has a brother-sister bond with) is in danger of being executed.
Plus there's the whole issue of the Edo being a pre-warp civilization, yet the Enterprise finds nothing wrong with interacting with them.
As a mathematician, in that case I'd go for Star Trek: The Next Iteration Failed To Converge.
How about Star Trek: The Bald Captain's Era ?
I love the episode despite its flaws, but some are pretty severe: Why can't Data just belch out a copy of his schematics, instead of just letting himself be powered down while they cut a hole into his guts -- since he was babbling those to Cmdr Maddox fgr a later episode? (Or did they have any found, anywhere, since they can copy the circuit traces on the boards, but not how each individual positironic chip works - not that quickly.) Never mind "hushy hushy pinky-swear" about his off switch placed where it's amazing how Yar never found it - because most people put their hands back there when getting busy, almost never under the armpits or up the nose or wherever said switch could be housed, but I digress... well, the switch blab is easier to explain than how he's using contractions or even outright emoting in scenes when he's not Lore or Lore masquerading as Data? (His emotional shock surprise over Lore is either a preprogrammed remnant, as Data does this on occasion throughout the show's run. But contractions are harder to headcanon,) How come the dead planet is loaded with cobwebs on trees as the silicone life form had already ingested every last bit of life energy thus rendering it dead? (Data's shell being placed at an alter by Halloween village as an offering? The episode is sufficiently vague that any idea, no matter how dumb, would actually fit.) I know it's season 1, but even then the conference room was decidedly behind the bridge yet they often film it with a corridor behind the doors where people should be walking into or out of... outer space, whoops. Also, huge kudos to the cast in all playing it straight as Brent Spiner discusses his twin - in a scene where it's just a store mannequin head with circa-1982 hairdo perched atop it. The cast definitely was perfectly chosen...
Ain't nobody in the Q afraid of Klingons evolving enough to become a problem for them, anywhere near as much as they're concerned with humans. Hell, by the end of TNG one of Picard's own crew had already begin manipulating time naturally. The Q are on countdown until they have at the very least company & at the most competition.
…okay, that’s fair. Good point.
It's actually called that in the German Dub. "Star Trek: Das naechste Jahrhundert" (Star Trek: the Next Century)...which of course was a little bit weird, because Star Trek (as in the 60s show) was never called "Star Trek" in Germany. Instead it was called "Raumschiff Enterprise" (Starship Enterprise)
Also the voice over in the German dubs of both TOS and TNG claimed that in its mission the Enteprise "ventures forth into galaxies that no human has laid eyes upon yet"
Which, barring a couple of instances, is not true.
There's no evidence for it, but Travelers and Q don't feel like they'd be antagonitic. Plus, Travelers are still corporeal and hang out on a single planet, whereas Q are higher-dimensional beings. Just my opinion.
"Angel One" - While Geordi talks with Dr Crusher, how come the same medical person is on the bridge tending to a sick person in the background while the same person is in the background of sickbay as Crusher talks in turn?
Identical twins? A trick by some near-deity? Well, Q'betcha!
Identical twins? A trick by some near-deity? Well, Q'betcha!
While I, like most here, am a big fan of "The Drumhead", here is an interesting alternative perspective on it: https://www.tor.com/2012/05/04/star-trek-the-next-generation-the-drumhead/
Sure it's a bit manipulative, definitely one-sided, but most television episodes, dealing with a social/moral issue or even not, are. I think it still works really well in the relationship/conflict between Picard and Satie and is believable and effective in Satie growing unhinged against him and Worf being disgusted and regretful after she went after Picard.
Interesting that that reviewer who said the DSN duo was how to do it then also later disliked the second part as also being too one-sided absolute.
Interesting that that reviewer who said the DSN duo was how to do it then also later disliked the second part as also being too one-sided absolute.
Oh, I loved it too. And I think most people consider it one of Trek's finest episodes. That's why I wanted to post a dissenting opinion. If I found a post that advocated for an oft-maligned episode, I'd post that, too. Think I even did it once, with "Fair Haven".
On a related subject, I wonder what kind of reception "Code of Honor" would have gotten if the aliens were played by a random selection of actors, instead of exclusively African Americans.
On a related subject, I wonder what kind of reception "Code of Honor" would have gotten if the aliens were played by a random selection of actors, instead of exclusively African Americans.
Weren't the aliens from "Code of Honor" originally supposed to be lizards?
As for "The Drumhead", I used to wonder why Sabin Genestra - by all accounts a full Betazoid - didn't simply read Tarses' mind, but I suppose that Federation law would not allow that.
As for "The Drumhead", I used to wonder why Sabin Genestra - by all accounts a full Betazoid - didn't simply read Tarses' mind, but I suppose that Federation law would not allow that.
A Vulcan mind meld would also have worked, and the Enterprise had several Vulcans onboard.
"Conspiracy" --
- Why does Walker tell Picard to say hi to Beverly, after the big talk of saying not to tell anything to anyone?
- How come Keel's ship has debris, is pointed out that no bodies were found, so where are the bodies?
- Also, why did the Horatio decide to speed up to go past the Enterprise in order to blow itself up for Picard to notice?
- Why did the Grand Poobah of the 80s-Neon-Purple People-Eater Prawn Things host inside Remmick, one of the more recent converts? Unless Remmick was one of the first to be taken over, with Aaron between the events of "Coming of Age" and "Conspiracy"?
- Even then, why didn't the Grand Poobah of the 80s-Neon-Purple People-Eater Prawn Things have a handful of these things we call "guards" flanking it? (Well, they needed to end the story in a hurry, as well as setting up an all-you-can-eat shrimpfest, with some side dishes like statins and colestipol?)
- Why is Tryla Scott so cool a character, just to be discarded as another compromised officer? Ursaline Bryant knocks it out of the park with her acting, making a good (if not tactfully but briefly shown) character a terrific one with more potential thanks to some top notch acting.
. - Also, is her surname of "Scott" a possible relation to Montgomery?
- This one is great. No, that's it. Eight is great. I'm a poet and I don't know it.
- Forgot to add: How could the Grand Poobah of the 80s-Neon-Purple People-Eater Prawn Things fit inside his body so seamlessly, along with all 47-zillion babies that plopped out after he exploded?
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