• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


  • Total voters
    185
If the rumours about her powers are, I'm amazed in 2023, they went for a trope like
she calls on the power of her ancestors!
- how long did they take to think that up in the writer's room?

Let's see, the series is being made largely by Native Americans so tell me,do you think (a) it's true or (b) some racist bullshit you've fallen for as this is your first day using the internet?
 
It is also among one of the most common and long running religious practices in human history. It's hardly racist given that it is prevalent across multiple societies and cultures, including Chinese, Mayan, Fino, ancient Palestine, and cultures in Africa.

This is hardly racist.
 
Let's see, the series is being made largely by Native Americans so tell me,do you think (a) it's true or (b) some racist bullshit you've fallen for as this is your first day using the internet?

Whatever aggression issues you have worked out with your therapist not me.
 
It's not inherently racist. But it does tend to show up in pop culture depictions of Native American culture
 
Was rewatching Captain Marvel because my wife wants to see the Marvels and wanted to be "up to speed".
Noticed for the first time that Minn-Erva's (Gemma Chan) headgear mimics the mask worn by Mar-Vell, Carol and Minn-Erva herself in the comics.
eHgKcVr.jpg
 
In lieu of continuing to watch MCU movies in a haphazard piecemeal fashion, I decided to have a 3-movie marathon by going all the way back to 2008 and the first Iron Man, followed immediately thereafter by Iron Man 2 and Iron Man 3, and of the three, I'd say the latter (which i hadn't seen before) ended up being my favorite.
 
IM3 is your favorite?

Yes. It doesn't suffer from any of the issues (formulaic insubstantial storytelling and an over-reliance on connectivity) that turned me away from avidly and consistently supporting the MCU, we get a nice arc for Tony that builds to a satisfying conclusion, there's a nice subtle callback to IM1, Killian and Maya are great villains, Rhodey and Happy aren't overexposed, we get some neat hero moments from Pepper, and the swerve with Sir Ben Kingsley's character is creative and interesting, especially in light of the revelations in Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings about the Ten Rings organization and its actual leadership.
 
IM3 is your favorite? Mkay

Yes. It doesn't suffer from any of the issues (formulaic insubstantial storytelling and an over-reliance on connectivity) that turned me away from avidly and consistently supporting the MCU, we get a nice arc for Tony that builds to a satisfying conclusion, there's a nice subtle callback to IM1, Killian and Maya are great villains, Rhodey and Happy aren't overexposed, we get some neat hero moments from Pepper, and the swerve with Sir Ben Kingsley's character is creative and interesting, especially in light of the revelations in Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings about the Ten Rings organization and its actual leadership.

I'm not saying it's my favorite, but it's definitely better than IM2 and one of the better MCU movies. For the same reasons DigficWriter posts, but also...
I'm neuro-divergent, diagnosed with anxiety and OCD, suffered from depression and have been considering that I may have been misdiagnosed and have ADD/ADHD. In any case, on the spectrum as they say.
When Iron Man 3 was released, and we saw Tony at this worst with panic attacks and little hints of his OCD more clear, I was at what may have been the lowest point of my life. My OCD had developed into an eating disorder. And here was Tony. Clearly vulnerable, still a hot mess at the end but getting a grip on himself and working harder and harder to be better. That ment a lot to me.

So yeah, for many reasons I think Iron Man 3 is one of the best MCU movies.
 
Yes. It doesn't suffer from any of the issues (formulaic insubstantial storytelling and an over-reliance on connectivity) that turned me away from avidly and consistently supporting the MCU, we get a nice arc for Tony that builds to a satisfying conclusion, there's a nice subtle callback to IM1, Killian and Maya are great villains, Rhodey and Happy aren't overexposed, we get some neat hero moments from Pepper, and the swerve with Sir Ben Kingsley's character is creative and interesting, especially in light of the revelations in Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings about the Ten Rings organization and its actual leadership.

I agree with this, and also I believe that it was especially important that the MCU ran with a low key character story following the Avengers film. They did the same with Ant-Man after Phase 2 and then with Homecoming later on. Following a big event with a lower stakes story that was character driven was a strength for the MCU--which they seem to have forgotten following Endgame. That's why a lot of the early Disney series really worked--because they explored character development over world shattering stories. Even Moon Knight and Ms. Marvel were low key enough for me to really enjoy them.
 
Yes. It doesn't suffer from any of the issues (formulaic insubstantial storytelling and an over-reliance on connectivity) that turned me away from avidly and consistently supporting the MCU, we get a nice arc for Tony that builds to a satisfying conclusion, there's a nice subtle callback to IM1, Killian and Maya are great villains, Rhodey and Happy aren't overexposed, we get some neat hero moments from Pepper, and the swerve with Sir Ben Kingsley's character is creative and interesting, especially in light of the revelations in Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings about the Ten Rings organization and its actual leadership.

I thought it was formulaic because the villain was another generic businessman. Killian and Maya were awful to me
 
I thought it was formulaic because the villain was another generic businessman

Killian and Maya weren't businesspeople; they were scientists, one of whom (Maya) let the pursuit of success and a desire for knowledge tank her moral compass and the other of whom (Killian) was a jilted psychopath.
 
Killian and Maya weren't businesspeople; they were scientists, one of whom (Maya) let the pursuit of success and a desire for knowledge tank her moral compass and the other of whom (Killian) was a jilted psychopath.

But wasn't Killian planning to sell weapons to both sides of the future conflict he was planning?

Plus I didn't really get main villain vibes from Hansen. She seemed more like a side character
 
Killian and Maya weren't businesspeople; they were scientists, one of whom (Maya) let the pursuit of success and a desire for knowledge tank her moral compass and the other of whom (Killian) was a jilted psychopath.

Basically this. They had more nuance and depth than a lot of MCU villians.
They were both characters that started with good intentions but were corrupted by events they did not intend. Oddly enough, both triggered by Tony.... Huh, how's that for not boring.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top