What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[fireproof78]

Agree to disagree works with me.


However, I do stand by my phrasing of calling it stupid. I have defended many episodes that many have considered ridiculous or idiotic. But there is a line where a plot point or reason just goes past my ability of defending the material. ("Rascals", "Sub Rosa", "THESE ARE THE VOYAGES...", and others.) For me, this was one of those times.

We all have that line.

 

[Tallguy]

So I take it this child created some type of subspace phenomenon? Because at the speed of light, it would've taken decades or centuries to affect all the Federation.

Millions of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silent.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Man, you find out that the universe is THAT random, makes you not want to get out of bed in the morning.

This is a good sentence.

 

[Mytran]

So I take it this child created some type of subspace phenomenon? Because at the speed of light, it would've taken decades or centuries to affect all the Federation.

It was the dilithium on the planet which created the subspace phenomenon (triggered by the child)

 

[drt]

Was it ever established it was actually galaxy-wide or was it the usual Trek character hyperbole? Possibly it only effected an area a few thousand light years across.

 

[MikHutch]

Was it ever established it was actually galaxy-wide or was it the usual Trek character hyperbole? Possibly it only effected an area a few thousand light years across.

Iirc it wasn't the whole galaxy

 

[Enterprise1701]

Was it ever established it was actually galaxy-wide or was it the usual Trek character hyperbole? Possibly it only effected an area a few thousand light years across.

Well, Vance stated that subspace relays went down in accordance with the Federation shrinking from 350 members to 38 members.

 

[hbquikcomjamesl]

Yup, apparently the general public hated DS9’s Bajor episodes, even though…they were generally the best episodes in the first couple of seasons.

I didn't dislike the "Bajor episodes" in general at all. But I despised the "Homecoming/Circle/Siege" trilogy. To the point where just about all I can remember about them was that they involved a coup d'etat, and that I despised them. Mainly because I don't care for coups d'etat, or any other kind of political intrigue. Not in real life, not in fiction.

 

[Commander Troi]

I didn't dislike the "Bajor episodes" in general at all. But I despised the "Homecoming/Circle/Siege" trilogy. To the point where just about all I can remember about them was that they involved a coup d'etat, and that I despised them. Mainly because I don't care for coups d'etat, or any other kind of political intrigue. Not in real life, not in fiction.

That's cool. I adored that arc. I was blown away seeing Star Trek actually take on political intrigue and do it well. Great writing and acting.

 

[MikHutch]

I feel bajor as a species, despite their sometimes hokey religion, avoided being too flanderized because of the political storytelling

 

[hbquikcomjamesl]

Watching the "Homecoming/Circle/Siege" trilogy, I found that Frank Langella doesn't do much for me. Not sure if it was because of the character, because the circumstances under which he refused credit affected his portrayal of Jaro, or just because he just doesn't do much for me, or more than one of the above; I don't think I've ever seen him in anything else (I know he had the title role in a fairly recent Dracula movie, but about the only Dracula movies I've ever seen are Murnau's Nosferatu, and Dracula: Dead and Loving It.)

 

[Farscape One]

Watching the "Homecoming/Circle/Siege" trilogy, I found that Frank Langella doesn't do much for me. Not sure if it was because of the character, because the circumstances under which he refused credit affected his portrayal of Jaro, or just because he just doesn't do much for me, or more than one of the above; I don't think I've ever seen him in anything else (I know he had the title role in a fairly recent Dracula movie, but about the only Dracula movies I've ever seen are Murnau's Nosferatu, and Dracula: Dead and Loving It.)

He was also Skeletor in the 80s movie MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE.

 

[hbquikcomjamesl]

He was also Skeletor in the 80s movie MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE.

I wonder if he did that one too, "for his nieces or his nephews."

 

[Tallguy]

I know he had the title role in a fairly recent Dracula movie

It was right before the even more recent Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

despite their sometimes hokey religion

It's not that hokey. Their gods showed up!

 

[fireproof78]

I feel bajor as a species, despite their sometimes hokey religion, avoided being too flanderized because of the political storytelling

Bajor is my favorite Trek species after Romulans and Species 8472.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I dig the Hyu'Mahnz.

 

[Enterprise1701]

I am sorry to rain on your parade, but the 'hoo-man' mispronunciation is one of the worst tropes in writing Trek aliens when they are specifically established as not speaking English. It makes no sense within Trek rules.

 

[cooleddie74]

ENT retconned the origin of that pronunciation by having it be the misinterpretation of the Jeffrey Combs Ferengi pirate in "Acquisition." T'Pol calls the members of Enterprise's crew human and the Jeffrey Combs character replies by mimicking her and saying "HEW-MON."

It's weak as Hell and doesn't explain why the Ferengi over the next 200+ years don't get the pronunciation right, but still. ENT tried to explain its origin with a couple of throwaway lines.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I am sorry to rain on your parade, but the 'hoo-man' mispronunciation is one of the worst tropes in writing Trek aliens when they are specifically established as not speaking English. It makes no sense within Trek rules.

Hard disagree. Tone is conveyed, which the universal translator has no business dropping. What is the tone? It's of mockery and of disdain, both in accordance with the incomprehensibility of humans to Ferengi on a cultural level. At its best delivery, it is practically scornful.

If anything, the universal translator should amplify tonal cues to the level where they'll be sure to be noticed.

 

[Citiprime]

ENT retconned the origin of that pronunciation by having it be the misinterpretation of the Jeffrey Combs Ferengi pirate in "Acquisition." T'Pol calls the members of Enterprise's crew human and the Jeffrey Combs character replies by mimicking her and saying "HEW-MON."

It's weak as Hell and doesn't explain why the Ferengi over the next 200+ years don't get the pronunciation right, but still. ENT tried to explain its origin with a couple of throwaway lines.

I always felt it wasn't a translation problem, but the universal translator was accurately conveying how sarcastically the Ferengi are pronouncing it in order to show the emphasis by which they're being condescending.

Sort of the same way Gowron sneers when he says "child's uniform" whenever he taunts Worf about being a member of Starfleet.