Except lose the Star Destroyer pattern.
What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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Great.
So now what?
Or did you just feel like having a swipe at so-called ‘Nu-Trek’?
The very worst of professionally produced Star Trek is still light years ahead of any fan film ever produced.
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Regarding Fan Films:
I can forgive cheap VFX and sets. It's hard to pull off. I'm an independent filmmaker myself, I know how hard that stuff is. I never made a sci-fi film of my own, but I did work on one: I edited and acted in a film called Transsexuals from Space, it's a spoof '50s sci-fi B-movies. You can see me getting zapped at the 1:36-mark in the trailer. So, I know how it goes. I understand.
But the things that really get me are the writing and the acting. You don't need to build sets or have the latest and greatest production equipment and software to pull off good writing and good acting, or at least passable acting and passable writing. So, I'll be less forgiving about those, even with a fan film.
I can forgive cheap VFX and sets. It's hard to pull off. I'm an independent filmmaker myself, I know how hard that stuff is. I never made a sci-fi film of my own, but I did work on one: I edited and acted in a film called Transsexuals from Space, it's a spoof '50s sci-fi B-movies. You can see me getting zapped at the 1:36-mark in the trailer. So, I know how it goes. I understand.
But the things that really get me are the writing and the acting. You don't need to build sets or have the latest and greatest production equipment and software to pull off good writing and good acting, or at least passable acting and passable writing. So, I'll be less forgiving about those, even with a fan film.
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For what it’s worth, Nicholas Meyer didn’t love Star Trek to the point of fundamentally altering it to better fit his vision.
I hear most fans think TWoK is pretty good though.
I hear most fans think TWoK is pretty good though.
Was not Nemesis directed by a Trek Fan...how did that movie turn out?
You may be thinking of the writer.
The Director (Stuart Baird) didn't even know who the characters were!
Hey, I'll stack the fan film I was in against the best of professional Trek!
But seriously, "ST Continues" did some wonderful productions at the start. Sadly they finished with uninspired fanboy box-checking. "ST: New Voyages/Phase II" started out crap and got good, then sort of petered out. It was all for fun tho, and having been a super-8 film freak in the 80s myself, I really appreciate them. Most of them. Some of them.
But seriously, "ST Continues" did some wonderful productions at the start. Sadly they finished with uninspired fanboy box-checking. "ST: New Voyages/Phase II" started out crap and got good, then sort of petered out. It was all for fun tho, and having been a super-8 film freak in the 80s myself, I really appreciate them. Most of them. Some of them.
Opposite.
The cast have told many stories over the years, particularly LeVar Burton and Marina Sirtis about how shitty Stuart Baird was.
Paramount; We want you to directed this Star trek film for us.
Stuart Baird; Sure just one question. whats a star trek?
Stuart Baird; Sure just one question. whats a star trek?
It won't ever catch on.
You have to give credit to Nicholas Meyer for doing his homework on STAR TREK and actually going over previous material to find what can work for the movie.
As far as I know, Stuart Baird didn't. And it shows.
Picard was right to believe humans from his past were uncivilised. We are.
KIRK: All right. It's instinctive. But the instinct can be fought. We're human beings with the blood of a million savage years on our hands, but we can stop it. We can admit that we're killers, but we're not going to kill today. That's all it takes. Knowing that we won't kill today. Contact Vendikar. I think you'll find that they're just as terrified, appalled, horrified as you are, that they'll do anything to avoid the alternative I've given you. Peace or utter destruction. It's up to you.
One of Kirk's best monologues.
Depends on which individual or group you're talking about. There really is no single group of "Humans."
If I had to live in a "Trekkish" universe it'd have to be a version where matter transportation were limited to inanimate objects, rather than living beings.
There's no way in hell I'm getting ripped to atoms and replaced with an identical clone of me. I'll still be dead, no matter how it looks from anyone else's perspective. :P
There's no way in hell I'm getting ripped to atoms and replaced with an identical clone of me. I'll still be dead, no matter how it looks from anyone else's perspective. :P
shuttles are cooler anyway.
Written by a fan, actually. The director, as already noted knew nothing about Trek. He actually got into an argument with LeVar Burton insisting that Geordi was an alien.
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