What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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Very good, but leave it alone. It's yesterday's argument now.
Sorry, I wasn't trying to get involved just wanted to demonstrate my Young Ones prowess
Sorry, I wasn't trying to get involved just wanted to demonstrate my Young Ones prowess
No apology necessary! *hug*
Depends on whether the Founders exist in our hypothetical. If they did exist, and went away, then yes.
If the Founders never existed to gengineeer white dependency into the Jem'Hadar genome, then, no, the Alpha Quadrant is going to have a bad time.
Didn't the Founders engineer the the JH to be the berzerker warriors they are in the first place?
From what we see in the Abandoned, I'd say yes. He simply seemed to experience an inner urge to fight.
Even so, they'd probably need to have some restraint built-in as well. It'd probably be too dangerous to solely rely on the ketracel-white in order to keep the Jem'Hadar from not randomly attacking 'the others' (who were no founders).
Per Memory Alpha:
Without a steady supply of white, Jem'Hadar suffered withdrawal symptoms: their circulatory systems began to shut down, beginning with muscle spasms. Psychologically, they became uncontrollably violent, attacking their enemies, then their Vorta overseers, and finally each other. A few Jem'Hadar were naturally 'born' with the ability to produce the necessary enzyme without actually taking white, but these cases were rarely noted save for exceptional circumstances as they still took the drug on a regular basis and never knew that they weren't addicted. (DS9: "The Abandoned", "Hippocratic Oath", "To the Death", "Rocks and Shoals")
Without a steady supply of white, Jem'Hadar suffered withdrawal symptoms: their circulatory systems began to shut down, beginning with muscle spasms. Psychologically, they became uncontrollably violent, attacking their enemies, then their Vorta overseers, and finally each other. A few Jem'Hadar were naturally 'born' with the ability to produce the necessary enzyme without actually taking white, but these cases were rarely noted save for exceptional circumstances as they still took the drug on a regular basis and never knew that they weren't addicted. (DS9: "The Abandoned", "Hippocratic Oath", "To the Death", "Rocks and Shoals")
Ok so they'd kill everyone else and then themselves?
Basically, yeah.
Quoting Weyoun is like quoting a lying politician. He's a born liar that has no credibility.
The one time we see the Vorta and Jem'Hadar experience the death of their Founder, they commit suicide in shame for allowing it to happen. So there's no guarantee that Weyoun's idea of the Jem'Hadar going nuts in bezerker violence would happen.
Okay, but we saw what happens when Jem Hadar strike out on their own: they attacked DS9, unprovoked.
I'm confident believing Weyoun wasn't lying about just how bad it'd be if the Jem Hadar broke their metaphorical chains.
Not necessarily.
According to the script for DS9's "To the Death," Weyoun infects Odo during the episode with the virus that forces him to come back to the Great Link in order to be judged. So all of the events, even the renegade Jem'Hadar attack on DS9, could have been a setup in order to facilitate Odo being forced to come home.
I dunno, Jem Hadar ignoring their gods' orders, cruising around without supervision and attacking DS9 and killing people willy-nilly, and having access to instant transportation anywhere, anytime... definitely seems like a Bad Thing™ one would want to prevent from happening. No subterfuge from Weyoun needed to get Sisko on board with that idea.
I'm finished watching The 12 Monkeys and I've finished re-watching Picard.
So, I'll be renting Everything, Everywhere, All At Once tomorrow.
I'll be watching all three during the Holidays. That's when I originally watched all five of the original films. Christmas Week in 1995.
I don't want to hype it, but I'm 99% sure you will enjoy it! We often fall into the same likes/dislikes so... well, wait and see! :-)
It's amazing! You may need tissues.
Uh-oh!It's amazing! You may need tissues.
I went to go see Interstellar in the theater in 2014 and when it was over I was bawling my eyes out. I walked out of the theater as fast as I could thinking, as I was leaving, "Please don't let me run into anyone I know!"
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