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Spoilers ST Lower Decks - Starships & Technology Season 4 Discussion

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- What do Borg smell like? And how does T'Lyn know this?

Mark

Captain Ramsey claimed Borg smell like "old garbage bags" in "Much Ado About Boimler". Whether she and T'Lyn are only experiencing this smell in holodeck simulations, or have actively encountered functioning or non-functioning Borg drones is unclear to me. But it absolutely sounds like Borg are still a problem.
 
I'm heading back into #conlife for this weekend, but in 403:

- Those power units are, what - repurposed NX-class warp cores? Are any of them signed by Zephram Cochrane or Henry Archer?

- Even six million year old computers have eerily similar IT fixes to 20th / 21st century Windows OS.

- Why IS the Cerritos carrying a selection of anomalous stuff circa 2364-2378 or so?

Mark
 
- Those power units are, what - repurposed NX-class warp cores? Are any of them signed by Zephram Cochrane or Henry Archer?
Given that Horizontal Warp Cores are "Last Gen" tech compared to modern Vertical Warp Cores, I'm not surprised to see them become popular with the civilian crowd. Especially given how much easier it is to install stuff Horizontally than Vertically on planet side installations.

- Even six million year old computers have eerily similar IT fixes to 20th / 21st century Windows OS.
OS design seems to be a Universal constant, regardless of Time / Space / Distance.

- Why IS the Cerritos carrying a selection of anomalous stuff circa 2364-2378 or so?
Somebody must've emptied their Anomalous crap storage room from DS9 and USS Cerritos is delivering it to a better holding facility?
 
- Those power units are, what - repurposed NX-class warp cores? Are any of them signed by Zephram Cochrane or Henry Archer?

Starfleet must of had a bunch available when they installed them.

- Even six million year old computers have eerily similar IT fixes to 20th / 21st century Windows OS.

At least this one is benevolent :)

- Why IS the Cerritos carrying a selection of anomalous stuff circa 2364-2378 or so?

TENDI: Anything that requires further study or might need to be returned to its previous entity is kept right here.​

My guess is that all of those things still qualified for being kept there. Curiously it looks they have older stuff too like a Medusan container and safety glasses, a second!? Nomad and a Romulan cloaking device!
 
The Bounty still had its completely working and apparently easily stolen cloaking device installed even after 120 years. The logic of this boggles the imagination, but there you are.
Shows & movies are full of conceits like this. Raiders of the Lost Ark and a plethora of similar "treasure hunter" media are particularly guilty of this (even the great Fifth Element movie and other films with hidden chambers), where ancient thousand-year-old mechanisms and booby traps still somehow miraculously function, whereas I can barely keep my garage door opening and closing without hitting it with a shot of WD-40 every couple of months! :lol:
 
- Those power units are, what - repurposed NX-class warp cores? Are any of them signed by Zephram Cochrane or Henry Archer?
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they seem to have the same external housing at least. the NX core didn't have the terminal things on the sides though. perhaps the NX warp core used a pre-existing external housing design that was also shared by other power systems (like say fusion generators) or the ones on the orbital were warp cores off retired early federation ships with some special components added for interfacing with Vexilon's control systems.
there was also a bigger more modern warp core in the back of the power station. which appears to be similar to the warp core from a galaxy class, but with a viewing window instead of a dilithium access hatch.
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Why IS the Cerritos carrying a selection of anomalous stuff circa 2364-2378 or so?
Why assume they are the originals. Some of these crew strike me as the type to by create replicas of such things.
My guess is that all of those things still qualified for being kept there. Curiously it looks they have older stuff too like a Medusan container and safety glasses, a second!? Nomad and a Romulan cloaking device!
The ultimate in second contact.
 
there was also a bigger more modern warp core in the back of the power station. which appears to be similar to the warp core from a galaxy class, but with a viewing window instead of a dilithium access hatch.
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Thanks for the screenshots. It's not apparent in the screenshot but the "modern warp core" in the back was spinning. The dialogue called it a turbine.
 
there was also a bigger more modern warp core in the back of the power station. which appears to be similar to the warp core from a galaxy class, but with a viewing window instead of a dilithium access hatch.
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A bit like the Constellation or Nova core
 
Depends if those units had dilithium in them. Since their destruction was fairly limited I don't think they were matter/antimatter units and didn't use dilithium.
Dilithium is, for a time, a near-ubiquitous energy source. We know from DSC e3.01 that space stations blew up to. And the Trill suffered planetary-scale population damage.
 
Dilithium is, for a time, a near-ubiquitous energy source. We know from DSC e3.01 that space stations blew up to. And the Trill suffered planetary-scale population damage.

I'm not so sure that Corazonia would have been impacted. While watching the episode with the family last night I noticed that the cylinders they were removing (and forced to put back in) were called "power cylinders" and more specifically "ion generators". If those ion generators (not using matter-antimatter reaction) are providing power then the NX-01-style manifold casings would not have been using dilithium, IMHO.
 
Dilithium is, for a time, a near-ubiquitous energy source
Dilithium is a Power Regulator medium, not a energy source in itself.

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That was true starting with TNG, as they finally figured out how to codify Trek tech back in ‘87, in a way that was unheard of in TOS, where they really never took the time to establish how all the pieces of fictional gadgetry worked. There were heavy implications that the TOS warp nacelles generated power, instead of a M/AM reaction in the warp core. And there were dilithium crystal mounting points all over the ship. Not just in the engine room floor, but also in multiple wall-mounted consoles. IIRC, there wasn’t even a concept of a warp core back then. They had a vague idea, but never fleshed it out until much later.
 
From episode 404 (ha!):

- The Orion ship in the teaser is basically the same as the ones seen in ENT, except with additional spikes and pirating grapplers on the bottom. Also, rust-colored instead of green.

- The plunder sorters have a LOT of Starfleet hand weapons on hand! They sort a TOS phaser into the trash barrel (boo!), but in said barrel also seems to be a VOY-era compression rifle (boo?), which was not seen outside of that show. The sorting table had a bunch of TNG/LDS Type-II phasers copy-pasted across it as well.

- It's not the first time in Trek, but Orion ships have pirated the generic alert klaxons from who knows what other sci-fi shows we've heard them on.

- Orions use Orionoceroses (or should that be Orionoceri?) as mounted steeds. They are shown here as potential herd animals, but on Earth anyway they are more solitary.

- As Brutherford's bromance is ripped in Twain, Boimler calls for the arch, which obediently appears right behind them. But when Rutherford entered earlier, it's on another side of the room. This seems to be a one-room holodeck recreation and there seems to be little reason to move the whole thing just so the arch is conveniently behind them later on, is there..?

- The USS... uh, Friend Ship was of the same type as the USS Raven, dating from the 2340s or even older. The LCARS seems commensurate from the early TNG era. The front viewscreen is also a proper window, which is I think hinted at in "The Raven" when we saw the partial bridge set. THIS bridge is the same layout as in "Dark Frontier", but somehow has enough room in it for a an Errol-esque swordflight (including flips).

Mark
 
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