SAG-AFTRA vote to go on strike

[DarrenTR1970]

The Drew Barrymore Show, The Sherri Shepherd Show, The Jennifer Hudson Show and The Talk have all resumed production and are using non-union workers in the studio.

Jennifer Hudson Show, ‘The Talk’ Resuming Amid Strikes – The Hollywood Reporter

 

[bdub76]

The Drew Barrymore Show, The Sherri Shepherd Show, The Jennifer Hudson Show and The Talk have all resumed production and are using non-union workers in the studio.

Jennifer Hudson Show, ‘The Talk’ Resuming Amid Strikes – The Hollywood Reporter

Scabs.

Who are you they going to have for guests? Scabs?

 

[Farscape One]

If the workers are not part of a union, I can't fault them for wanting to get a steady paycheck to pay their bills and take care of their families.

 

[Snaploud]

Drew Barrymore Dropped as Awards Ceremony Host Due to Resuming Show Amid Strike

The National Book Awards rescinded the offer for Barrymore to host their 74th awards ceremony.

BY JAMES HIBBERD
SEPTEMBER 12, 2023 3:52PM

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/drew-barrymore-awards-ceremony-host-1235588696/

 

[UssGlenn]

Scabs.

Who are you they going to have for guests? Scabs?

Instagram and TikTok personalities. But there's also been posts on those platforms reminding people not to go if asked. But you know some people won't be able to pass up the opportunity.

 

[bdub76]

Instagram and TikTok personalities. But there's also been posts on those platforms reminding people not to go if asked. But you know some people won't be able to pass up the opportunity.

YouTube is where new content is coming out these days.

I don’t get why these shows are coming back. Have some respect for the strikers. I hope they get canceled.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

Vera Wylde of the Council of Geeks examines in what ways exactly Drew Berrymore is actually scabbing:

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Quite interesting. Among other things, Berrymore does not technically break SAG-AFTRA strike rules, but the show very much breaks WGA strike rules.

 

[Snaploud]

WGA Calls Bill Maher’s Decision To Bring HBO’s ‘Real Time’ Back During Writers Strike “Disappointing”, Guild Says It Will Picket Show
Peter White
September 13, 2023 8:31PM PDT

https://deadline.com/2023/09/writer...eal-time-wga-disappointing-picket-1235546557/

 

[Farscape One]

If he is not using writers or doing any writing himself, he isn't violating any rules, correct?

He mentions that the show will be different than usual because of the lack of writers, and that it likely won't be as good. But doing this will also give a steady check to all those other people who work on the show that aren't writers or actors.

If you've got a large segment of your workers who are struggling because your show is completely stopped by the strike, altering the format so it can function without writers helps those people to pay their bills and put food on the table for their families.

I get that symbolically this is frowned upon for not standing in solidarity with the WGA, but I'm sure a lot of those other workers that need the paychecks to take care of their families won't be frowning and are thankful that they can get back to work.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

If he is not using writers or doing any writing himself, he isn't violating any rules, correct?

He mentions that the show will be different than usual because of the lack of writers, and that it likely won't be as good. But doing this will also give a steady check to all those other people who work on the show that aren't writers or actors.

If you've got a large segment of your workers who are struggling because your show is completely stopped by the strike, altering the format so it can function without writers helps those people to pay their bills and put food on the table for their families.

I get that symbolically this is frowned upon for not standing in solidarity with the WGA, but I'm sure a lot of those other workers that need the paychecks to take care of their families won't be frowning and are thankful that they can get back to work.

It's not just a symbolic thing. This will also put more money back in the studio's pockets, making them better able to ignore the strike for even longer.

 

[Farscape One]

It's not just a symbolic thing. This will also put more money back in the studio's pockets, making them better able to ignore the strike for even longer.

That may be true, but there are a LOT of people who work on those shows that have nothing to do with acting or writing.

They have mortgages/rent to pay each month. They have utilies each month. They have to eat. They have families to provide for.

Banks or renters don't give a damn if your job is on hold or not... they want their mortgage/rent on time. Same with utility companies. Their kids need food. Getting them back to work helps them keep their homes and keep their lights on and their kids fed.

From what I understand, the WGA and SAG have a sort of pool of money that is used to aid them when they strike. Do they also help pay for all the other workers these strikes affect? Lighting people, set designers/builders, electricians, hair and makeup, sound technicians, etc.? I think not, so these people are left out in the cold.

 

[bdub76]

That may be true, but there are a LOT of people who work on those shows that have nothing to do with acting or writing.

They have mortgages/rent to pay each month. They have utilies each month. They have to eat. They have families to provide for.

Banks or renters don't give a damn if your job is on hold or not... they want their mortgage/rent on time. Same with utility companies. Their kids need food. Getting them back to work helps them keep their homes and keep their lights on and their kids fed.

From what I understand, the WGA and SAG have a sort of pool of money that is used to aid them when they strike. Do they also help pay for all the other workers these strikes affect? Lighting people, set designers/builders, electricians, hair and makeup, sound technicians, etc.? I think not, so these people are left out in the cold.

This is the logic you want people to embrace, so that you can pay them peanuts and profit. It seems to be working.

Then the other PR move you use is to complain unemployment insurance is too high. That people will become lazy and won’t work. What you really want to do is push down wages to make more profit.

And Americans fall for these stupid narratives all day long, so the less than 1% can live like kings.

 

[Farscape One]

This is the logic you want people to embrace, so that you can pay them peanuts and profit. It seems to be working.

Then the other PR move you use is to complain unemployment insurance is too high. That people will become lazy and won’t work. What you really want to do is push down wages to make more profit.

And Americans fall for these stupid narratives all day long, so the less than 1% can live like kings.

First off, I have never said that people should be paid peanuts. Everyone should be paid fairly, and that includes the people NOT on strike.

Second, I never said anything about people 'becoming lazy and not working'. Quite the opposite... I know all those people want to get back to work so they can pay their bills and take care of their families.

If you look at my previous posts on this very thread, my issue with strikes has been and always wil be the people the strikes affect that ARE NOT the intended targets of the strikes... in other words, it hurts a lot more people in the trenches doing other jobs like the ones I listed above and not the executives and studios.

I've never liked rich people... I've dealt with entitled people and well off people a vast majority of my life. As someone who has been working class his entire life, I'm always against the rich.

But it's easy to be on your moral high horse when you aren't part of a group that can't pay their mortgage/rent or utilities or feed your children because one part of the workforce of a show (and quite honestly, going by simple numbers, a small group vs. the amount of all the other working people on a show) causes your livelihood to completely stop and therefore get no income. And we are in the fifth month of strikes, so that means a lot of those people have had no income to take care of those necessities and their kids for all that time.

You think that's fair?

 

[BK613]

Lighting people, set designers/builders, electricians, hair and makeup, sound technicians, etc.

What good are their unions and guilds if WGA and SAG-AFTRA cave?

 

[Farscape One]

What good are their unions and guilds if WGA and SAG-AFTRA cave?

Those other guilds aren't on strike. WGA and SAG unions have money pools they can tap into during a strike. Are the others taken care of in the same way? I don't see WGA or SAG letting all those others grab from that pool to help them while they have no income.

 

[bdub76]

First off, I have never said that people should be paid peanuts. Everyone should be paid fairly, and that includes the people NOT on strike.

Second, I never said anything about people 'becoming lazy and not working'. Quite the opposite... I know all those people want to get back to work so they can pay their bills and take care of their families.

If you look at my previous posts on this very thread, my issue with strikes has been and always wil be the people the strikes affect that ARE NOT the intended targets of the strikes... in other words, it hurts a lot more people in the trenches doing other jobs like the ones I listed above and not the executives and studios.

I've never liked rich people... I've dealt with entitled people and well off people a vast majority of my life. As someone who has been working class his entire life, I'm always against the rich.

But it's easy to be on your moral high horse when you aren't part of a group that can't pay their mortgage/rent or utilities or feed your children because one part of the workforce of a show (and quite honestly, going by simple numbers, a small group vs. the amount of all the other working people on a show) causes your livelihood to completely stop and therefore get no income. And we are in the fifth month of strikes, so that means a lot of those people have had no income to take care of those necessities and their kids for all that time.

You think that's fair?

You’ve bought their narrative hook, line, and sinker. Strikes will always impact other people. Working from home impacted restaurants and transportation. There is always another party impacted by employee behavior changes. That can’t be helped. If the contract and wages were fair, everyone would be fine. The corps are the ones to blame for stretching this out.

 

[Timby]

I don't see WGA or SAG letting all those others grab from that pool to help them while they have no income.

SAG-AFTRA and the WGA are, in fact, organizing a charity auction, 100 percent of the benefits of which will go to out-of-work laborers.

 

[UssGlenn]

The leaders of the other industries impacted by the strike are supposed to put pressure on the parties involved to settle the strike.

 

[bdub76]

The leaders of the other industries impacted by the strike are supposed to put pressure on the parties involved to settle the strike.

These corps are too big and powerful. Local restaurant owners impacted aren’t going to get Iger on the phone.

 

[Farscape One]

You’ve bought their narrative hook, line, and sinker. Strikes will always impact other people. Working from home impacted restaurants and transportation. There is always another party impacted by employee behavior changes. That can’t be helped. If the contract and wages were fair, everyone would be fine. The corps are the ones to blame for stretching this out.

I wasn't blaming either side for drawing the strike out. I said that it affects far more workers than the strikers' intended targets, and I can't blame any of those workers who went back to work on those shows so they can pay their bills and feed their families. DO NOT put words in my mouth.

As for your example of how working from home affected restaurants and transportation, that's apples and oranges. Some of those places did have slower foot traffic, yes, but they didn't grind down to absolutely NO WORK for over 4 months and with no end in sight.

And by the way, people can choose to go to restaurants if they want to. Those workers on the shows I mentioned have no option when the show they work on is shut off completely.

And let me tell you something. I got laid off from my Nestle route in 2011 because they were cutting routes... less than two months before my wedding day. I was out of work for SIX MONTHS before I was finally able to get a job working at Whole Foods. You have any idea what it's like to be newly married and have NO JOB?!

So if it seems like I care more about the people out of work because of other people's actions, that's exactly right. I don't wish that kind of uncertainty on anyone.


Since what I say seems to continually be misconstrued on this thread, I'm done with this subject on this thread.