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I don't like there being ships other than the Enterprise being given letters after their registries.

I've always felt this was something supremely special. An honour. A one time deal.

But now we've got multiple ships in the late 24th, early 25th and the 32nd centuries that have letters up the wazoo.

Kinda diminished it, in my opinion.

I don't like it being done with any ship including the Enterprise. It's utterly nonsensical to give a bunch of different ships spread across centuries the same registry number but with a suffix. Reusing the name is a meaningful homage. Reusing the number is just creating totally unnecessary administrative headaches for the sake of something no one ever actually talks about or ever seems to care about in universe anyway. (And, indeed, there's absolutely no reason anyone in universe ever should care about it.)
 
I don't like there being ships other than the Enterprise being given letters after their registries.

I've always felt this was something supremely special. An honour. A one time deal.

But now we've got multiple ships in the late 24th, early 25th and the 32nd centuries that have letters up the wazoo.

Kinda diminished it, in my opinion.
The uniqueness of the "bonus letter" idea was introduced in 1986 and then basically abandoned in 1988, with TNG Season Two's Where Silence Has Lease:
WORF: Captain, there's another vessel approaching in sector zero nine one, mark two six.
PICARD: On screen. Magnify.
RIKER: It's a Federation ship. NCC one three zero five dash E. It's the Yamato, our sister ship.​
 
I'm afraid to see what letter the Enterprise would be up to in Discovery or Starfleet Academy.

USS Enterprise, NCC-1701-NN

41st Federation Starship to bear the name.

I don't like it being done with any ship including the Enterprise. It's utterly nonsensical to give a bunch of different ships spread across centuries the same registry number but with a suffix. Reusing the name is a meaningful homage. Reusing the number is just creating totally unnecessary administrative headaches for the sake of something no one ever actually talks about or ever seems to care about in universe anyway. (And, indeed, there's absolutely no reason anyone in universe ever should care about it.)

The uniqueness of the "bonus letter" idea was introduced in 1986 and then basically abandoned in 1988, with TNG Season Two's Where Silence Has Lease:
WORF: Captain, there's another vessel approaching in sector zero nine one, mark two six.
PICARD: On screen. Magnify.
RIKER: It's a Federation ship. NCC one three zero five dash E. It's the Yamato, our sister ship.​

Now wait for the sequel introducing NCC-1701-NOCLASSATALL. with 26 values for a letter, 12 letters... that's something like, out of a possible of something close to 95,428,956,661,682,176 combinations, or 9.542895666168218e+16 - whatever is larger, I suppose... Now come to think of it, because I've not had my gallon of coffee today, I'm just going to let that one simmer next to the lutefisk, pickle and anchovy sandwich I forgot to put back into the fridge last week next to the glass of delicious vinegar cider...

:devil::guffaw:
 
It was always a cool thing to me as a kid. If the movies had an Enterprise A and TNG had the D then what must be the B and C be like? Will there be an E?

I don’t know. I like it. It adds a bit of breadth to the universe and it’s nice to know that the names and registries of ships live on through the centuries.
 
It was always a cool thing to me as a kid. If the movies had an Enterprise A and TNG had the D then what must be the B and C be like? Will there be an E?

I don’t know. I like it. It adds a bit of breadth to the universe and it’s nice to know that the names and registries of ships live on through the centuries.

On the flip side, that's also very true. In 1987, the "D" was rather an inspired choice as it ensured a lineage that wasn't - in universe - an "all of a sudden" event, despite the show's title hinting at the first generation after Kirk. (80~112+ years later depending on script, with "Class of 78" per Data being the most intriguing, especially compared to what GEN spells out with "seventy eight years later" (plus that errant handful of nanoseconds everyone keeps forgetting about) and all... if TOS really took place in 2266-whatever. Especially as TNG season 1 flaunts "the old Enterprise" as if A-C didn't exist, and had models of TOS-era ships littered in rooms for no reason than nostalgiabait.

...but I digressed a big one...

It left plenty of breathing room, where one could even show an event to fill in some gaps, while still avoiding minutiae that the fans love to go bonkers over as filling too many gaps creates larger ones. Like filling a pothole on the highway, only to realize that - oops - this bit of highway is on a bridge and after laying the asphalt you see a giant chunk of concrete crumble from behind you and plop into the raging river below, with desperate alligators chewing on it. And unlike kids who chew ice, when croc there chews the concrete, there's no dentist to put on a crown if said tooth breaks. Remember kids, modern concrete apparently has something like a five-to-seven-decade lifespan. Longer if you seal it. Not "seal" in terms of those cute little animals who clap for fishes at the zoo, but that smelly polyurethane stuff you don't want to touch or inhale, of which whose name has nothing to do with a grouping of urethras for whatever reason, and who comes up with half these words and syllables in the dictionary anyway?

...but I digressed, again.

I do wonder if TVH's ending with 1701-A, was a last-minute addition due to TNG being greenlit, as it was a year away from being televised. Had it not been for TNG, would Kirk and crew end up with another ship entirely? Was that supposed to be the Excelsior they'd ultimately get? I remember the makers of the f/x disliked the 1701 mode because it was eleven feet long and difficult to film... even Excelsior was 8' but still far easier to deal with. The "D" was 6 feet long as well, but incredibly wide, and to make life easier and for how much faster television had to be made, they made that 4' one (with the bumpy exterior to compensate for CRT TV sets' limited resolution), which seemed cool at the time but now looks somewhat like a refined plastic block kit all snapped together. Still looks cool, but when imagining proper scale, it's an odd duck that quacks me up every time.
 
I do wonder if TVH's ending with 1701-A, was a last-minute addition due to TNG being greenlit, as it was a year away from being televised. Had it not been for TNG, would Kirk and crew end up with another ship entirely? Was that supposed to be the Excelsior they'd ultimately get? I remember the makers of the f/x disliked the 1701 mode because it was eleven feet long and difficult to film... even Excelsior was 8' but still far easier to deal with. The "D" was 6 feet long as well, but incredibly wide, and to make life easier and for how much faster television had to be made, they made that 4' one (with the bumpy exterior to compensate for CRT TV sets' limited resolution), which seemed cool at the time but now looks somewhat like a refined plastic block kit all snapped together. Still looks cool, but when imagining proper scale, it's an odd duck that quacks me up every time.
According to the Star Trek: The Next Generation Companion by Larry Nemecek, the series was originally going to take place in the 25th Century and it was going to be the NCC-1701-7. No typo. Then TVH introduced the NCC-1701-A and the TNG team changed their Enterprise to the NCC-1701-G to match. Then they changed it to the NCC-1701-D when they decided to have TNG take place in the 24th Century.
 
According to the Star Trek: The Next Generation Companion by Larry Nemecek, the series was originally going to take place in the 25th Century and it was going to be the NCC-1701-7. No typo. Then TVH introduced the NCC-1701-A and the TNG team changed their Enterprise to the NCC-1701-G to match. Then they changed it to the NCC-1701-D when they decided to have TNG take place in the 24th Century.

So what do you think will come after NCC-1701-Z?

a) NCC-1701-Ž
b) NCC-1701-ZA
c) NCC-1701-AA
d) NCC-1701-1
e) NCC-1701-27

The uniqueness of the "bonus letter" idea was introduced in 1986 and then basically abandoned in 1988, with TNG Season Two's Where Silence Has Lease:
WORF: Captain, there's another vessel approaching in sector zero nine one, mark two six.
PICARD: On screen. Magnify.
RIKER: It's a Federation ship. NCC one three zero five dash E. It's the Yamato, our sister ship.​

According to Memory Alpha, that bit of dialogue was left in the episode by mistake. So can we really use it?

Models apparently use 71807:
https://www.space-figuren.de/images/product_images/info_images/6923_0.jpg

Not sure how canon it is, and I wasn't able to find a good screencap from the episode.
 
I'm in two minds about this. On the one hand, it feels very artificial for the Enterprise to be the only ship lineage rewarded in this way, when we know that other ships with matching names do honour previous ships with that name even if their registry numbers are different – e.g., the 25th century Titan NCC-80102-A has a model of the 23rd century Titan NCC-1777 on its observation lounge wall. After all, this is how it's done in the real world – the three (and counting) US aircraft carriers to carry the name Enterprise are CV-6, CVN-65, and CVN-80, not CV-6, CV-6-A, and CV-6-B.

Given the registry numbers of most of the other Galaxy-class starships we have seen, including the USS Galaxy herself, if they'd decided to drop the suffix for the Enterprise-D it could have plausibly been NCC-71701. This is actually used elsewhere in the franchise – e.g., Rios's Stargazer NCC-82893 followed on from Picard's Stargazer NCC-2893 without being the Stargazer-A.

On the other hand, many starships other than just the Enterprise have had illustrious careers. Maybe Sisko's Defiant should have been NCC-1764-A or B or whatever, rather than NX-74205.

I think the one thing I'm definitely against is what we've seen in DIS and PIC, where refits are now somehow sufficient justification for giving a ship a suffix letter.
 
I think the one thing I'm definitely against is what we've seen in DIS and PIC, where refits are now somehow sufficient justification for giving a ship a suffix letter.

Discovery and Picard piss all over the continuity, so I personally just pretend they don't exist.
 
So what do you think will come after NCC-1701-Z?

a) NCC-1701-Ž
b) NCC-1701-ZA
c) NCC-1701-AA
d) NCC-1701-1
e) NCC-1701-27
Double letters. After X, Y, and Z is AA, BB, CC, and so on. Then, after ZZ, it goes to AAA.

So the Enterprise-AAA will tow broken starships, we only talk about the Enterprise-KKK in the TNZ Forum, and I'd love to show you the Enterprise-XXX but then I'd get warned by the moderators.
 
Controversial Opinion:

TNG looks and feels more dated than TOS.
I'd agree on the "feels" side of that. The way the cast interacts with eachother feels more alien than anything else on that series. It can make it difficult to watch, making TNG the series I rewatch the least.
I actually think that alien weirdness in the interactions is something that modern Star Trek lacks.

Early TNG, especially, has a lot of problems, but it actually feels like human culture is strangely different, which makes sense given there’s 300 years of difference between the present and then. If someone from 1723 came to the present, the interactions of people in modern society would be totally alien to them too.

The way modern Star Trek is now is that for the most part it’s 21st century people in a 23rd century setting.
 
The way modern Star Trek is now is that for the most part it’s 21st century people in a 23rd century setting.

Couldn't it just as easily be said that TOS broadly represents 20th century people in a 23rd century setting?

So the Enterprise-AAA will tow broken starships, we only talk about the Enterprise-KKK in the TNZ Forum, and I'd love to show you the Enterprise-XXX but then I'd get warned by the moderators.

The DD has a huge pair of Bussard collectors.
 
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