Wonder Woman's Patty Jenkins is Directing a Rogue Squadron Movie

[Gaith]

And with the writers and actors strikes looming, and Andor, Mandolorian, Ahsoka, Skeleton Crew (am I missing anything?) and a possible Obi Wan S2 in current development, it's entirely plausible that LF just wanted to hit the brakes for another year before starting work on RS.

Yep, you're missing The Acolyte, and all those other projects taking all their energy is certainly the most positive/charitable explanation for why RS isn't in active production.

(That said, I don't see why Lucasfilm would have waited for any one director, or even a writer-director, to get RS going, though. Some projects are personal and distinct enough that they need a writer-director - Tarantino films being perfect examples. But, like I said, a vroom-vroom, pew-pew space dogfighting movie is probably not one such film.)

 

[fireproof78]

I can be wrong - it's possible the script is done and Jenkins treatment has been approved, but they don't want to release any news until it starts shooting. And with the writers and actors strikes looming, and Andor, Mandolorian, Ahsoka, Skeleton Crew (am I missing anything?) and a possible Obi Wan S2 in current development, it's entirely plausible that LF just wanted to hit the brakes for another year before starting work on RS.

A distinct possibility, as well as the fact that they may have a list of directors and writers they want to work with who will deliver work on time and under budget. Given the budget crises of some projects this doesn't surprise me at all that they were wanting to wait for what they wanted.

 

[Reverend]

It's all guesswork at this point. Nobody knows what's going on with Lucasfilm's slate other than Lucasfilm.

All we can say for certain is that's it's par for the course in Hollywood for like 90% of all projects to never get made for a variety of reasons. Projects getting shelved or placed in a holding pattern while schedules attempt to align is also a normal thing. Nobody making any major announcements in the midst of a historic actor and writers' strike because nobody can plan based on a unknown factor is just how reality works.

 

[Jedman67]

(That said, I don't see why Lucasfilm would have waited for any one director, or even a writer-director, to get RS going, though. Some projects are personal and distinct enough that they need a writer-director - Tarantino films being perfect examples. But, like I said, a vroom-vroom, pew-pew space dogfighting movie is probably not one such film.)

Maverick wasn't successful for being a vroom-vroom, pew-pew film. It had an emotional core as well as the Tom Cruise persona.
I haven't gotten around to seeing it.
Jenkins said that her father served as a combat pilot and she had a story she wanted to tell. I'd like to believe that with the success of the SW TV Universe, Lucasfilm would rather have the right director attached to make a good product than rush something to meet a deadline (cf, TLJ). And for all the supposed flaws in the Mandolorian, it's been successful enough to launch another 5 live action shows.

A distinct possibility, as well as the fact that they may have a list of directors and writers they want to work with who will deliver work on time and under budget. Given the budget crises of some projects this doesn't surprise me at all that they were wanting to wait for what they wanted.

Star Wars doesn't need to worry about money

 

[fireproof78]

Star Wars doesn't need to worry about money

This is not true.

 

[JD]

Just because we think something seems like a good idea to us sitting on the outside of the boardroom at Lucasfilm, doesn't mean that it actually is a good idea for the people inside that boardroom. Running a company like that, and deciding which movies will or won't be made is a lot more complicated than people like probably think. So until I actually have that kind of experience, I'm not going to assume I know better than people who have been doing it for 40+ years.
i can not like their decisions, but I'm not going to assume I know how to do their jobs, until I've actually done them, which will probably never happen.

 

[fireproof78]

Just because we think something seems like a good idea to us sitting on the outside of the boardroom at Lucasfilm, doesn't mean that it actually is a good idea for the people inside that boardroom. Running a company like that, and deciding which movies will or won't be made is a lot more complicated than people like probably think. So until I actually have that kind of experience, I'm not going to assume I know better than people who have been doing it for 40+ years.
i can not like their decisions, but I'm not going to assume I know how to do their jobs, until I've actually done them, which will probably never happen.

I've hit the age were I no longer think some things are super easy or that I know it all.

I welcome those who think they do to try it.

 

[Morpheus 02]

I just saw on my personal calendar that Rogue Squadron was supposed to come out today... i assume i put this in prepandemic.... butbwhat news do we have? Any guestimates at this point? Is Patty Jenkins scheduled for any other projects??

 

[Set Harth]

Somewhere Idina Menzel is warming up...

 

[The Wormhole]

i assume i put this in prepandemic....

No possible way since this project was publicly announced December 2020, when the pandemic was already in full swing.

 

[Morpheus 02]

No possible way since this project was publicly announced December 2020, when the pandemic was already in full swing.

AH, i see.... well, then i guess Wonder Woman 2 really sabotaged things???

Kinda funny how so many release dates have changed.... for those i did NOT edit... there might be a few ore surprises n my calendar!

 

[Reverend]

Last thing I read from Jenkins on the topic was about a year ago, and basically was just her clarifying that development on RS was taking longer than expected and she wanted to get on and start WW3, so LF agreed to keep it on the back burner until she was ready to come back.
From what I can tell from a quick google on the reporting; nobody outside of the actual production seems to have the first fucking clue what the status of WW3 is even now; with claims and counter-claims, and debunking of counter claims every which way as to whether or not it's cancelled. Suffice to say it's very up in the air.

As for RS itself: Kennedy indicated during SWC'23 that it's not a "shelved" project but something they still talk about. Could end up being a movie still, could be a show. It's all (as of 8 months ago) still up in the air.

I think a lot of the confusion comes from people outside the industry not understanding what "in development" actually means; this is the complex and rather amorphous process that takes place well before even pre-production. It can be very rapid, or very long depending on various factors. Most of the time nothing actually comes of it, and that's totally normal. Nothing's been cancelled at this point because nothing has been greenlit. No financing is in place, no production schedule has been made let alone a release window, and more often then not; no script has been drafted.
So what does happen? Basically anything from just a conversation, up to and including a completed script, concept art & test footage, plus everything and anything in-between. It's really that wide open and depends on the individual circumstances.

Personally I prefer the idea of tackling this as a show rather than a movie. That way they can tackle it more like a 'Band of Brothers' ensemble piece and less like a shallow, flashy "it's like 'Top Gun' but in space" movie. We'll see where it ends up (if anywhere.)

 

[Gaith]

Personally I prefer the idea of tackling this as a show rather than a movie. That way they can tackle it more like a 'Band of Brothers' ensemble piece and less like a shallow, flashy "it's like 'Top Gun' but in space" movie.

I don't disagree, though I wonder if a D+ show would have the budget for big, fancy space battle sequences. Not that I'd necessarily mind a show that blended live-action cockpit photography with stylized/less than 100% photoreal animation. It could even be ideal to do a theatrical movie to introduce the squadron, with a traditional hotshot newbie POV character story arc, and then continue the story with the same cast on D+.

 

[Ssosmcin]

I don't disagree, though I wonder if a D+ show would have the budget for big, fancy space battle sequences.

Oh they do. Some of their shows look like features. Movie quality effects at home, which is probably yet another reason people don't go to the theater as much.

Space battles tend to look more convincing than real world simulations anyway, but the opening episode of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier looks insane.

 

[fireproof78]

Personally I prefer the idea of tackling this as a show rather than a movie. That way they can tackle it more like a 'Band of Brothers' ensemble piece and less like a shallow, flashy "it's like 'Top Gun' but in space" movie. We'll see where it ends up (if anywhere.)

I hope it goes somewhere but would not surprise if it doesn't.

 

[Gaith]

Oh they do. Some of their shows look like features. Movie quality effects at home, which is probably yet another reason people don't go to the theater as much [...] the opening episode of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier looks insane.

Remember, FatWS was supposed to be the first D+ MCU show, so that one opening scene from its premiere episode isn't necessarily representative of the investment they're willing to make on a consistent basis.

Also, D+ has been losing money, as have just about all the streaming services, so it's quite likely we'll see a reduction in series budgets in the coming years. Given the ease with which even very expensive streaming shows can be pretty much entirely ignored by the general public (cough, Secret Invasion, cough), Disney may well conclude they should reserve lavish action sequences for the big screen, and sell their streaming series with a newfangled discovery called, er, *checks notes* ... quality writing. Y'know, the thing that kept Agents of SHIELD running even as the budgets steadily slimmed down.

 

[Ssosmcin]

Remember, FatWS was supposed to be the first D+ MCU show, so that one opening scene from its premiere episode isn't necessarily representative of the investment they're willing to make on a consistent basis.

Also, D+ has been losing money, as have just about all the streaming services, so it's quite likely we'll see a reduction in series budgets in the coming years. Given the ease with which even very expensive streaming shows can be pretty much entirely ignored by the general public (cough, Secret Invasion, cough), Disney may well conclude they should reserve lavish action sequences for the big screen, and sell their streaming series with a newfangled discovery called, er, *checks notes* ... quality writing. Y'know, the thing that kept Agents of SHIELD running even as the budgets steadily slimmed down.

You're not wrong, but also as I said, space battles tend to be more easily made convincing. Even shows like Stargate SG-1 had some astounding space battles. Hell, their arctic combat battle during, I think, the Atlantis discovery was jaw dropping.

D+ is having trouble making their CGI people look convincing these days. But the Star Wars shows don't seem to be suffering so badly. But even the best Star Wars embraced a cheesiness in their aliens.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Remember, FatWS was supposed to be the first D+ MCU show, so that one opening scene from its premiere episode isn't necessarily representative of the investment they're willing to make on a consistent basis.

Its not, as there's no other D+ series that upped their production to the movie level of TFaTWS's premiere episode (or series in general).

Also, D+ has been losing money, as have just about all the streaming services, so it's quite likely we'll see a reduction in series budgets in the coming years. Given the ease with which even very expensive streaming shows can be pretty much entirely ignored by the general public (cough, Secret Invasion, cough), Disney may well conclude they should reserve lavish action sequences for the big screen, and sell their streaming series with a newfangled discovery called, er, *checks notes* ... quality writing.

Considering much of the MCU's D+ output, that's too much to ask.

 

[Gaith]

Considering much of the MCU's D+ output, that's too much to ask.

Considering Andor and Loki, "hope springs eternal."

 

[FreezeC77]

Rogue Squadron doesn't really need to be big space battles every "episode".

Although I think Wraith Squadron by Aaron Allston could work better for TV since they were more like a jack of all trades in doing ground infiltration and space based fighter stuff. Not saying Disney could just have Rogue Squadron do all that (they did do some in the books), and have it be kinda like Space Above & Beyond.

Where some eps of SAAB, had the group doing non-space fighter ops. Probably to save on budget.

Circling back to the Wraith Squadron which was heavily influenced by The Dirty Dozen taking wash-outs, misfits, etc... and the operations/schemes like the A-team (hell one of the characters was nicknamed Face).

It would be the perfect type of rag-tag group to attach Migs Mayfeld the former imperial sharpshooter from the Mandalorian, but I dunno how much time Bill Burr would want to commit to that.