What's your unpopular opinions on SNW?

[fireproof78]

Despite my overall love and preferences towards TOS I'll freely admit to not knowing the Enterprise length or that this was a matter of consternation.

 

[cooleddie74]

ENT and Doug Drexler did help clarify matters with his Connie schematic. That much more clearly depicts the decks and inner workings of a 400-meter-or-so starship than a 289-meter one.

 

[Jayson1]

Despite my overall love and preferences towards TOS I'll freely admit to not knowing the Enterprise length or that this was a matter of consternation.

All you need to know is it is big enough to hold 200,000 thousand chimps within the entire inside structure of the ship A extra 50,000 if you include the nacelles.

 

[cooleddie74]

Plus it helps explain why the quarters got smaller by TOS. The crew complement goes from 203 in SNW to 430 in Season 1 of TOS and you have to make room for those 227 new officers and crewmembers. Hence, same size saucer but you have to inform the Captain and other officers that they're gonna have to downscale for the sake of the next five-year-mission.

 

[Mudd]

Are we trying to explain that?

 

[Death Ray]

The principle audience that watches SNW and genre in general are... portly guys with glasses? Really? Really?!

Well honey, SOMEONE is being insulted in that scene. If it isn't the fans, then it must be technical support guys!

You've clearly NEVER been to a convention where there are people of ALL KINDS enjoying genre shows. Not only do fans run the entire spectrum of humans physically (short, tall, fit, unfit, skinny, fat, etc.), but they also come from all ages AND professions. Engineers, doctors, firefighters, cops, cashiers, construction workers, nurses, geologists, stock clerks, bank tellers, waiters/waitresses, pilots, military officers... the list is actually endless. And this is just people I have met myself at places like DragonCon. And by the way, A LOT of the people that are genre fans or go to these conventions are female. Easily 50% of the crowd, likely more.

Yeah yeah yeah. Tell it to the judge. We all know who the fat nerd in glasses symbolizes. It's amazing that they didn't have him eating a burrito. Your complaint is with the writers, not me... I didn't script the fukkin' scene. Also: WHY IS ANYONE WEARING GLASSES ON STAR TREK??

It's actually a quite welcoming and nice environment where there isn't any bigotry or misogyny present... particularly the kind that you are presenting.

Except for Warren Ellis and all the Comicsgate cunts, that is.

 

[HotRod]

Well honey, SOMEONE is being insulted in that scene. If it isn't the fans, then it must be technical support guys!


Yeah yeah yeah. Tell it to the judge. We all know who the fat nerd in glasses symbolizes. It's amazing that they didn't have him eating a burrito. Your complaint is with the writers, not me... I didn't script the fukkin' scene. Also: WHY IS ANYONE WEARING GLASSES ON STAR TREK??



Except for Warren Ellis and all the Comicsgate cunts, that is.

Go away.

 

[fireproof78]

Also: WHY IS ANYONE WEARING GLASSES ON STAR TREK??

Why indeed?

 

[Death Ray]

Oh lord, I've known guys like you my whole life.

Straight men who prefer not to have their comedy television interrupted by the superfluous appearance of a dick, one episode after another? Yeah, that's most of us.

They declare themselves to be righteous women lovers, but as soon as they can't get laid cause some woman said NO, they are more than willing to drop their trousers for a quickie from any mouth that comes along and afterward in a guilty frenzy blame it on booze or being forced by the other participant.

Jeezus... what kind of rough trade are YOU hanging out with? You don't know nuthin' about me, Cara Mia.

 

[cooleddie74]

Never mind the fact that the Transporter Chief's assistant in "The Cage(TOS)" wore glasses.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Are we trying to explain that?

We try to explain everything.

 

[cooleddie74]

And we do it with élan, thank you very much.

 

[Sci]

Straight men

That's a weird way to spell "queerphobe and misogynist."

who prefer not to have their comedy television interrupted by the superfluous appearance of a dick

But I have been informed by reliable sources that "sex sells" and we all just have to put up with it if an actor is sexually objectified by the narrative??

 

[Death Ray]

Never mind the fact that the Transporter Chief's assistant in "The Cage(TOS)" wore glasses.

The fact that you have to dig through ancient Trek from the before-fore times just proves my point. People don't wear glasses on Star Trek, because it is the future. People with pointed ears are the norm, not people wearing glasses.

I don't believe for one second that when you saw the fat, bearded nerd mansplaining to poor Ortegas that you didn't instantly recognize that this was out of place on Star Trek. (Or more precisely, that this was a blatant message meant for the audience's benefit.)

 

[cooleddie74]

 

[Mudd]

This has to be some kind of bit. Nothing else makes sense of it.

 

[fireproof78]

 

[M'Sharak]

Why indeed?

People wearing glasses is as old as Star Trek.

 

[Lord Garth]

This has to be some kind of bit. Nothing else makes sense of it.

You would be correct. I had a run-in with him a few years ago and came to the same conclusion.

 

[cooleddie74]

"The Cage" is canon Trek, it's just as valid as any other that's been produced and it's even acknowledged in-universe by SNW as having happened. So no deep rooting and digging necessary. I knew the Transporter officer wore glasses because I've been paying attention to this franchise.