On a list of fifty? I can easily believe it. Each was way better than the average entry in the genre and TWS was, along with TDK, an excellent movie PERIOD.
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You are describing the known method and opinions of some--only you're deliberately isolating that to those you disagree with, yet you've accurately and unintentionally described those who might share your views, particularly about a certain film/characterization. In this and other threads, this group has posted endless rants attempting to bludgeon others into accepting their view of a certain film/characterization as absolute, creative truth, while firing off personal judgements about people they do not and will never know (central among them, a certain filmmaker), all in the effort to silence those who "dare" to not place a certain approach/view of a character on a pedestal. So yes, you can say, "people present their own opinion as if it's the only possible right one that anyone can have" and "implies anyone who tries to disagree with them is an idiot who doesn't know what they're talking about", but you are talking about the other side of this kind of debate with too many examples one can find in this and other threads.
I'm almost sure there will be a response (not necessarily from you) proving the point.
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It’s one of the few superhero trilogies that avoided the curse of three it used to be that the third one dropped the ball (though the MCU did it with Iron Man 2 and Thor 2, IMHO, then bounced back with the respective 3rd movies in those series). I don’t think Civil War is quite as good as TWS but it’s a lot better than Superman 3, X-Men: The Last Stand or TDKR.
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I sincerely hope you have a great day today, and take much enjoyment from all the things you enjoy!
I sincerely hope you have a great day today, and take much enjoyment from all the things you enjoy!
I believe the MCU Cap films did not avoid the "curse"; Civil War had so much unnecessary crap stuffed into it, which almost smothered the main story surrounding Bucky.
Regarding trilogies' third acts, I give Raimi's Spider-Man 3 more credit than it usually receives; I've watched it recently, and found the domestic issues between Parker and Mary Jane, along with the Sandman retconned into Parker's history (and his motives for committing crime) were as rich as what one would expect from the drama-heavy comics.
I would only differ in the case of IM3, which had its moments but I didn't feel like it escaped the curse overall. When I try to think of movies that escaped the curse I usually only think of The Return of the King, which arguably doesn't count, but it's true that Ragnarok and Civil War count. I thought Christopher Nolan would break the curse but I was wrong.
While I generally agree with the USA Today list, especially the ranking of the top three movies, I think the lack of Batman: Mask of the Phantasm is its biggest oversight. To my mind, Mask of the Phantasm is to date the very best depiction of Batman on screen and easily stands alongside Batman Begins and The Dark Knight as genuinely great Batman movies.
Forgive me for not keeping up, but what the hell is "the curse?" 
I think the ‘curse’ refers to the idea that the third movie in a series tends to see a drop off in quality.
My biggest problem with Civil War is that it's less a Captain America movie and more "Avengers 2.5"
Agreed.
That wasn't on the list? I could have sworn I saw it.
I just saw Blue Beetle. It was better than i expected. I liked the lead actor, Xolo. He did a good job. Susan Sarandon's character gave me Hilary Clinton vibes. The hair, the clothes, the mannerism and all.
I do believe why the Blue Beetle is not doing better than expected because there is a superhero movie fatigue right now among the general audience. There is like two or three superhero movies being released every year for some time now. The whole genre is getting stale.
I do believe why the Blue Beetle is not doing better than expected because there is a superhero movie fatigue right now among the general audience. There is like two or three superhero movies being released every year for some time now. The whole genre is getting stale.
I don't think it's fatigue, but more being getting bored with them all being near copies of each other. They all follow the same beats, and end with big CGI battle fests. People stuff love the characters. Well, most of the characters. But the way the stories are being told is becoming mundane.
Me and Knappos Junior really enjoyed Blue Beetle. Set pieces and FX derivative of loads of stuff. But I liked all the stuff of which it was derivative. The gems is the cast and the family (especially Nana) and the story there.
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I can’t wait to see Krypto in the new Superman movie!
Leaning in to the more fantastical elements of Superman lore, such as Krypto, Bizarro World, Kandor, the Legion, etc, would be a great way to separate this new version from all the previous versions.
Leaning in to the more fantastical elements of Superman lore, such as Krypto, Bizarro World, Kandor, the Legion, etc, would be a great way to separate this new version from all the previous versions.
We got Bizarro World in Superman & Lois, which I found a jarring mismatch with its generally serious and grounded tone. It might fit better in something more unapologetically Silver-Agey. Something with the spirit of All-Star Superman could be cool.
We had the Legion in Smallville and Supergirl too, and Krypto was in Titans (and sort of in Smallville too). Smallville had a loosely adapted version of Kandor -- an orb storing the genes of some of Kandor's population for cloning -- and preventing Brainiac from taking Kandor was a major plotline in Syfy's Krypton. But we've never had a live-action version of Kandor as a shrunken city in a bottle.
You know, the PR people tasked with pumping out spin ... did anyone think maybe just this time, let it go. Just don't.
Beetlemania is imminent! They're on their way. Probably stuck in line behind the mob of Keaton fans just showing up for The Flash.