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DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

Yup. Blaming it on "franchise fatigue" is just falling back on an old cliche that doesn't reflect the post-COVID (or still during COVID, really) world. People got out of the habit of going to movie theaters, and it's just not as popular now as it used to be, so the movies that do really well are a smaller subset of the whole.

What studios need to do is stop banking entirely on hugely expensive tentpole movies that fail unless they're megahits, and make more reasonably budgeted movies that can succeed with more moderate attendance. Part of the problem is that movie budgets have gotten so ridiculously bloated that the standards for success have become unreasonably high.
I have no doubt that the studios will adapt to post covid world and the current market. Thai year we’re still mostly seeing films greenlit before, during or immediately after the most acute impact (socially, in terms of lockdowns etc) of the pandemic. They’ve barely had a chance to adjust course.

Many also went all in on shooting the theatrical window in the foot by having the 90 day theatrical release to streaming release window. And with most streaming services being in the red (more so than the business plans - which all projected a 5+year period from launch to breakeven. The actuality shows that breakeven would be significantly further away than projected, and much less certain), I wouldn’t be surprised to maybe see streaming strategies adjusting to give the theatrical and rental/retail stages more time to take in revenue.

Though I can’t see the analytics and all the things driving the decisions these boards make, so I could be wildly wrong.
 
I wouldn’t be surprised to maybe see streaming strategies adjusting to give the theatrical and rental/retail stages more time to take in revenue.

It does look like the streaming bubble is bound to burst, and we'll end up with fewer streaming services (with the studios hopefully selling their shows and movies to the surviving ones like Netflix). But it's kind of a shame, since I like the convenience of getting to see movies at home soon after their theatrical release.
 
It does look like the streaming bubble is bound to burst, and we'll end up with fewer streaming services (with the studios hopefully selling their shows and movies to the surviving ones like Netflix). But it's kind of a shame, since I like the convenience of getting to see movies at home soon after their theatrical release.

I fully agree with that sentiment, not having to wait to long for movies to be available for streaming. But, to make the primary topic of this entire forum a part of my post....
At this moment, I would need at least three services to watch all of Star Trek in the Netherlands, and Discovery is literally nowhere. When Netflix made the deal back when to do Discovery but also have all the other Star Trek shows, I was quite happy. I thought that would be my one trick pony. Than Discovery vanished, with only the 6 prime shows avaiable on Netflix (TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT). Picard is Prime, so is Lower Decks, but the later might change. SNW is on SkyShowtime, which I don't have. Prodigy is nowhere. Sometimes the Kelvin movies are free either on Netflix or Prime, but that changes all the time.

I would really very much like for there to be a limited amount of services that I pay for, with the major studios having contracts with those platforms to create content. And honestly, I'm 95% certain that will happen in the next 5-10 years. It's the only viable way.
 
I would really very much like for there to be a limited amount of services that I pay for, with the major studios having contracts with those platforms to create content. And honestly, I'm 95% certain that will happen in the next 5-10 years. It's the only viable way.

What I'm afraid of, though, is that it'll end up costing as much as cable.
 
It does look like the streaming bubble is bound to burst, and we'll end up with fewer streaming services (with the studios hopefully selling their shows and movies to the surviving ones like Netflix). But it's kind of a shame, since I like the convenience of getting to see movies at home soon after their theatrical release.
Oh, I think streaming is here to stay. But I think the first streaming boom has peaked and is now on the way down. There’ll be a second boom along in a few years, I’m sure. We’ve had the “everyone looks at the pioneers and floods the market with wild abandon” boom, the next one will be 10x more informed and strategic.

I also can’t see it going back to the year long window between theatres and rental, they’re long dead and fossilised. But I think the studios have to be leaving revenue out of their coffers having not only such short windows but how much they overlap. You can stream a film these days (paying a premium) while it’s still on in the cinema.
I think too that there’s still less than two full years being open post-pandemic, so they’ll be surveying and focus grouping intensely to see why audiences say they’re not going.
It will be interesting to see what feedback they get, what conclusions they draw and just how little (or not) things eventually change.
 
Yup, so am I. But I am considering giving up cable and just stream. I don't really watch normal tv.

I gave up cable years ago because I couldn't afford it anymore. Streaming has been an inexpensive alternative, but the prices have been rising so swiftly lately.


Oh, I think streaming is here to stay. But I think the first streaming boom has peaked and is now on the way down.

Yes, that's what I mean. Of course streaming will stay, but every studio having its own separate streamer is an unsustainable model. We'll probably end up with something closer to conventional broadcasting, where studios sell their shows to streamers rather than trying to be both producer and distributor at the same time.
 
So Blue Beetle is another bomb - just Aquaman 2 left for this era.

According to Box Office Mojo, Blue Beetle has grossed an estimated $10,000,000 (domestic) against its $104 million dollar production budget since its August 18th release. Needless to say, on the domestic front, Blue Beetle is a disaster of a rare kind. The film did not live up to any potential the comic book version had by the boatload, and in some cases, it was trying too hard to capture that very, very tiring "novice becomes the unexpected hero" trope, which has been played to death in the movie superhero genre. It bears no resemblance in tone to the best of the DCEU, and does not give the impression that it would fit with earlier entries.

The upside (if there is one) is that the DCEU's run has reached its end, so the failure of Blue Beetle is not going to hurt some now nonexistent course for that film universe.
 
It looks like that 10 million number is just for Friday. Nevertheless, it is a bad start for the Blue Beetle which is expected to earn around 25 million for the weekend.
 
James Gunn says that the character might appear in his version of the DCU - I would think in the same way the character of Fate appeared in the first issue of the Justice Society revival.
 
It looks like that 10 million number is just for Friday. Nevertheless, it is a bad start for the Blue Beetle which is expected to earn around 25 million for the weekend.
Yet we're getting headlines like:

‘Blue Beetle’ Ends Barbie’s Month-Long Reign Atop Domestic Box Office

'Barbie’ no longer box office doll as ‘Blue Beetle’ dethrones her
 
Yet we're getting headlines like:

‘Blue Beetle’ Ends Barbie’s Month-Long Reign Atop Domestic Box Office

'Barbie’ no longer box office doll as ‘Blue Beetle’ dethrones her

Two statements of fact that don't change the other fact that it'll lose Warner's somewhere between 100-150 million.
 
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