Star Trek: Starships Model/Magazine Subscription
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I guess that shows the market for these things maybe isn't all that great. Titan has been available for weeks, and not all that long ago was arguably considered one of the most highly desired.
Completely hypothetical here, but based on tweets (x's?) from MR, I get the sense that an initial production run was normally around 2500. Since the Xl Cerritos was released for a few months prior to going out of buissness, the 1000 or so here may be from a second run. If those numbers are accurate, it would seem like just under 3500 is the total available market for the hardcore collectors who are willing to go out of their way to get one. Presumably, if they were listed on Amazon and other retailers there would be considerably more casual interest (I'm also sure that how drops have been conducted, and things selling put so fast have discouraged even a fair number of the hardcore collectors from MR as well).
What I've read for plastic models and friends who actually looked into producing a diecast F1 car twenty years ago, I'd estimate just the startup costs for a new ship to be on the order of $100-150k. If we go with the Eaglemoss making 50% margins (for argument's sake, that percentage is probably high), they'd have to sell 4000 units making $37.50 just to break even on a $150k startup cost. Keeping all of that in mind I can see how they could have easily overextended themselves and went out of business.
Completely hypothetical here, but based on tweets (x's?) from MR, I get the sense that an initial production run was normally around 2500. Since the Xl Cerritos was released for a few months prior to going out of buissness, the 1000 or so here may be from a second run. If those numbers are accurate, it would seem like just under 3500 is the total available market for the hardcore collectors who are willing to go out of their way to get one. Presumably, if they were listed on Amazon and other retailers there would be considerably more casual interest (I'm also sure that how drops have been conducted, and things selling put so fast have discouraged even a fair number of the hardcore collectors from MR as well).
What I've read for plastic models and friends who actually looked into producing a diecast F1 car twenty years ago, I'd estimate just the startup costs for a new ship to be on the order of $100-150k. If we go with the Eaglemoss making 50% margins (for argument's sake, that percentage is probably high), they'd have to sell 4000 units making $37.50 just to break even on a $150k startup cost. Keeping all of that in mind I can see how they could have easily overextended themselves and went out of business.
According to MR’s Twitter, the reason there has been delays in shipping are because it sounds like they’re selling them before they even physically have the product at their warehouse, and they themselves are having delivery delays getting them, and apparently 8 warehouse employees never showed up for work
If I search for Cerritos, there's two listings for it. One is the XL version and is still in stock, the other says it's scaled to the size of the Lower Decks collection and is out of stock.
Link to the one that's in stock:
https://www.masterreplicas.com/en-u...s-uss-cerritos-xl?_pos=1&_sid=91a69f6ef&_ss=r
yeah, I read that this morning. Now I kinda feel bad for sending an email to customer service to inquire about my order since it had been 2 weeks with no word.
Oddly enough, XL Cerritos is closer to being in scale with mid-size Titan, because in universe, Cerritos is about 20% larger.
I don’t know why MR didn’t just stay in the every other week release schedule. I think it would be easier for them to keep up with shipping, plus it extends out their release schedule a bit. At their current rate, it seems they’ll have largely exhausted the remaining EM stock by the end of September.
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MR just tweeted that there is no Friday drop this week to allow them to make sure orders that are older than a week get shipped this week.
I wonder if they had more product than they realized ( I mean, they are still finding stuff) and thought they would get majorly backed up if they didn’t go every week.
I wonder if they had more product than they realized ( I mean, they are still finding stuff) and thought they would get majorly backed up if they didn’t go every week.
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That comes in handy for me because I’ll be at Destination Trek in Birmingham. Gonna spend enough money on Trek stuff there.
Gateworld posted an interview that elaborates on the Stargate announcement from MR a few days ago.
The highlights are that they did get the tooling and designs from Eaglemoss as well as the unsold stock, so producing more models (both the ones that were already in production and the ones that were in the pipeline) was just a matter of confirming the licensing. The first never-before-released model will be the Prometheus at the end of November, with five more models to follow in spring 2024, at a pace of one every three months; the Puddle Jumper, an Asgard mothership (there's some ambiguity about if it's the original version or the curvier "O'Neill class" upgrade), the Wraith Dart, the Destiny, and the Destiny shuttle.
They also plan to do various special and repaint variants, the most solid of which are the Daedalus model labeled as its various sister-ships (my guess would be an "Odyssey" variant would be a sure thing, with "Hammond," "Korolev," "Phoenix," and "Sun Tzu" from most to least likely). They mention they did it for Battlestar Galactica, but I don't know how many Vipers with alternate markings they actually made.
There are some interesting tidbits on the business-side in the full interview, as well as some previews about potential future models they haven't even started on yet, like a stargate itself (possibly with lights), and a very interesting comment on the possibility of a larger-than-box-scale Atlantis model, "We really don’t want to be making 25 of something at $10k. Collecting is about having attainable goals, not something that is out of the realms of most collectors." One wonders.
The highlights are that they did get the tooling and designs from Eaglemoss as well as the unsold stock, so producing more models (both the ones that were already in production and the ones that were in the pipeline) was just a matter of confirming the licensing. The first never-before-released model will be the Prometheus at the end of November, with five more models to follow in spring 2024, at a pace of one every three months; the Puddle Jumper, an Asgard mothership (there's some ambiguity about if it's the original version or the curvier "O'Neill class" upgrade), the Wraith Dart, the Destiny, and the Destiny shuttle.
They also plan to do various special and repaint variants, the most solid of which are the Daedalus model labeled as its various sister-ships (my guess would be an "Odyssey" variant would be a sure thing, with "Hammond," "Korolev," "Phoenix," and "Sun Tzu" from most to least likely). They mention they did it for Battlestar Galactica, but I don't know how many Vipers with alternate markings they actually made.
There are some interesting tidbits on the business-side in the full interview, as well as some previews about potential future models they haven't even started on yet, like a stargate itself (possibly with lights), and a very interesting comment on the possibility of a larger-than-box-scale Atlantis model, "We really don’t want to be making 25 of something at $10k. Collecting is about having attainable goals, not something that is out of the realms of most collectors." One wonders.
Can't wait to snag a Yosemite.
Happy to hear the license annoucements. Hope they are ambitious enough to give us an Atlantis
Happy to hear the license annoucements. Hope they are ambitious enough to give us an Atlantis
https://m.facebook.com/groups/eaglemossstartrekfangroup/permalink/3574016482921669/
That's... pretty worrying, actually. I like the Star Wars starship models Fanhome are currently making, but unlike Eaglemoss they never seem to sell them individually, only as a subscription.
That's... pretty worrying, actually. I like the Star Wars starship models Fanhome are currently making, but unlike Eaglemoss they never seem to sell them individually, only as a subscription.
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