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MLB 2023 Season: Rangers are going hunting for Snakes

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After the donnybrook in Cleveland...

Tim Anderson suspended for 6 games; José Ramirez for 3.

Emmanuel Clase, Pedro Grifol, Terry Francona and Mike Sarbaugh each suspended for 1 game.

Edit: Orioles announcer suspended for commentating on the lack of previous wins. What the HELL?
 
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Frickin' Angel Hernandez has been umping for over 30 years? How does a douche like him keep a job that long? :wtf:
Union.

After the donnybrook in Cleveland...

Tim Anderson suspended for 6 games; José Ramirez for 3.

Emmanuel Clase, Pedro Grifol, Terry Francona and Mike Sarbaugh each suspended for 1 game.

Edit: Orioles announcer suspended for commentating on the lack of previous wins. What the HELL?
The shit had been building up all year, not sure how Anderson got 6 games vs Ramirez' 4.
 
Edit: Orioles announcer suspended for commentating on the lack of previous wins. What the HELL?

Remember that Orioles owner John Angelos, during spring training, promised to open up the team's books to the public ... and then got pissy at reporters when they kept asking him, in subsequent weeks, when he'd actually do it. (He never actually did it.)

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Especially since 1) Anderson's tag was legit, and 2) Ramirez threw the first punch!

Reviewing the footage, I think Anderson got the bigger suspension because he threw his glove to the ground and squared up first.
 
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Pitcher Michael Lorenzen, in only his second start with the Phillies since being traded by Detroit at the deadline, threw a complete-game 124-pitch no-hitter against the Nats. In addition to this being Lorenzen's first, It's the 14th no-no in Phillies history, and their first since 2015.
 
Pitcher Michael Lorenzen, in only his second start with the Phillies since being traded by Detroit at the deadline, threw a complete-game 124-pitch no-hitter against the Nats. In addition to this being Lorenzen's first, It's the 14th no-no in Phillies history, and their first since 2015.
I appreciate the manager trusting him enough to let him finish, even with the pitch count. People have become so fickle with the pitch count the last few years that when a pitcher has that freedom to go out and finish what he starts despite the pitch count, that's a good thing.

I hope the Giants can learn how to get the clutch hit again because they have a stretch of games starting with Texas this weekend that could break their season if they don't.
 
I appreciate the manager trusting him enough to let him finish, even with the pitch count. People have become so fickle with the pitch count the last few years that when a pitcher has that freedom to go out and finish what he starts despite the pitch count, that's a good thing.

I hope the Giants can learn how to get the clutch hit again because they have a stretch of games starting with Texas this weekend that could break their season if they don't.
I wonder if there is a source comparing when a manager lesst a pitcher "finish" with a high pitch count, then that pitcher goes on the DL/IL with arm troubles within a week.
 
I'm pretty certain there is, they have stats and bet-lines on everything now.
This piece says high pitch counts don't add up to more injuries: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ore-injuries-says-study-idUSBRE89P16G20121026

Maybe as likely that the higher velocity of pitches has a greater effect. I imagine when a pitcher is trying to finish a game with a high pitch count, maybe he overcompensates and risks hurting something unrelated because his arm is tired.
 
Braves Legend Nick Lopez had 5 RBIs and pitched the bottom of the 9th to aid in the 21-3 blowout of the Mets in the first game of a doubleheader.

And then the Mets went on to lose 6-0 in the night cap. It was not a good day for the Mets.
 
Maybe as likely that the higher velocity of pitches has a greater effect. I imagine when a pitcher is trying to finish a game with a high pitch count, maybe he overcompensates and risks hurting something unrelated because his arm is tired.

It's this. Pitching is already an inherently unnatural motion (our bodies were not designed to violently throw a baseball at 92 miles an hour a hundred times a game), and pitchers are throwing harder than ever.
 
It's this. Pitching is already an inherently unnatural motion (our bodies were not designed to violently throw a baseball at 92 miles an hour a hundred times a game), and pitchers are throwing harder than ever.
Do you agree that letting a guy go 120 pitches has no bearing on injury? Is it just something that stands out more when a pitcher goes on the IL right after, or a game after, throwing a ton of pitches?
 
Do you agree that letting a guy go 120 pitches has no bearing on injury? Is it just something that stands out more when a pitcher goes on the IL right after, or a game after, throwing a ton of pitches?

It's a correlation / causation thing. It's easy to scream about pitch counts when a guy's shoulder or elbow explodes, but historically speaking--and this has been tracked for the past several decades--there's no 1:1 relation between high pitch counts and injury risks. For example, 50 years ago, Nolan Ryan threw 235 pitches in 13 innings and threw more than 220 complete games in his career ... but it wasn't until the third-to-last start of his final season, 20 years later, that he actually ripped his UCL.
 
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What the hell is up with Wander Franco? :confused:

He's on the restricted list while MLB investigates allegations that Franco had a sexual relationship with a 14-year-old in the Dominican Republic and he paid off the mother to keep it secret, but it seems like someone in the family found out and is taking legal action.
 
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