Same, though I'm 39. I look back on my 20s and go, "how dumb was I?" (I'm not kind to past me).
Paul Wesley's incarnation of James T. Kirk
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Nor am I to myself at 55, but then I try to keep the lessons of Q in 'Tapestries' in mind...
Meh. I'm good without Q's platitudes.
The same reason Spock had it in the Cage and throughout all of TOS and beyond.
Or I guess, what, in about five years is going to change everything about his voice and general mannerism?
Also I never said he should be wise. I said (or more correctly inferred) that he should be projecting a cool, confident wisdom. Not "I am a robot, hear me not use any inflections or pleasing cadence in my words, beep boop bop." But more like an expert in his field who knows that he knows what he's talking about and everyone around him is an idiot (but in a nice way).
He was not cool in the Cage.
Experience. Confidence, coolness and wisdom come from experience.
Must have watched a different version of "The Cage"
It was the cool version
Nice.
Anyway this Kirk is a lot different that the one we’re used to seeing. A lot can change in five years.
I like how the people here exclude major aspects of a post just to intentionally misinterpret what someone said. Good to know this is another garbage forum, complete with asshole moderators. C'est la vie.
Off to find another one.
Off to find another one.
This is such a great comment.
And five or six years in Trek is a lot. That's at least two uniform design changes.
Yeah, Alexander (Worf's son) went from a Toddler to about 22 years old in that amount of time.And five or six years in Trek is a lot. That's at least two uniform design changes.
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Klingon puberty is a helluva trip.
You don't need to remind us that he is Worf's son.Yeah, Alexander (Worf's son) went from a Toddler to about 22 years old in that amount of time.
Only Worf needs reminding he is Worf's son
You don't need to remind us that he is Worf's son.
Only Worf needs reminding he is Worf's son
Peck is neither cold nor robotic.
I've come in a short time to prefer him to either of the previous actors who've played Spock. Now, some of that results from the fact that these writers give Peck better material than previous versions of Star Trek. No one since Theodore Sturgeon had come up with anything really new or interesting to do with the character, and part of that was that Spock was always half of a two-man act. He was Kirk's sidekick. On SNW, he's a more complex person who relates in different ways to a variety of friends and coworkers. He is not an authority figure in the sense that he was in oldTrek.
But beyond that, Peck's simply an actor with more apparent range than the others demonstrated.
Peck and the writers have successfully reframed the character as a contemporary individual, not an endlessly-repeating variation on a 1960s notion of how to handle being different (which was, pretty much: repress and deny whatever you think is "different" about yourself; keep others at arm's length, and treat people dismissively).
I like Wesley fine. I can take his Kirk a lot more seriously at this point than the previous versions, although if all I had ever seen was the first season of TOS I would probably still be more affected by the "gravitas" of his work than I am.
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Watching the latest episode, where he's talking about you-know-who being you-know-what, I'm kinda hung up on young Kirk looking older than TOS Kirk or even TMP Kirk.
I just love the way the producers of SNW allow Peck to sprinkle emotional outbursts and smiling into his performance as Spock because, well, if you're gonna be a canonista warrior you have to respect how much Peck's Spock tracks with Nimoy's during the two TOS Pilots and early episodes of the regular series from 1966. There's not a damn thing about Peck's Spock that contradicts Nimoy's 1964, 1965 and 1966 portrayals that laid the foundation for the character.
Bravo, guys. Well done.
Bravo, guys. Well done.
Your expectations are more than a few years too soon.
These are not the more mature, somewhat well rounded characters we see in TOS, they have several more years of experiences to go through to get there.
At this point Kirk is just starting out as a First Officer, never mind even thinking of commanding the Enterprise.
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