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DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

The Superman Homepage released a nice, short video on the live-action portrayals of Lex Luthor:
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With me it was the conversation with Iris... when she was like "didn't I see you once" I was like yes he saved you to the tune of this mortal coil, lady
There was something indeed going on with Iris. It’s a shame we will never know what.
 
The video's specifically dedicated to live-action versions. Nothing wrong with that choice of focus.

I just don't see the point of segregating productions by medium for something like this. Acting is acting. Writing is writing. The things that are different between live action and animation are irrelevant if you're cataloguing the portrayals of a character, because portrayal is about the writing and the performance. I mean, Great Krypton, how can you talk about "the evolution of Lex Luthor" and omit Clancy Brown? That's like talking about the evolution of vertebrates and skipping over dinosaurs.
 
Each to his own. For me, live-action and animation are very different animals, with very different impacts on me as a viewer. And voice acting is not at all the same as being able to see an actor's facial expressions and physicality. I think it makes 100 percent sense to talk about the history of a character in live-action only, omitting other formats and media, if that's the focus one prefers.
 
Each to his own. For me, live-action and animation are very different animals, with very different impacts on me as a viewer.

When I was 5, I discovered Star Trek: TOS and TAS within weeks of each other. And in that decade, the '70s, there were a number of animated spinoffs of live-action sitcoms. So I got used to seeing the same shows and characters in live action and animation at the same time, so I guess I always thought of them as a continuum.


And voice acting is not at all the same as being able to see an actor's facial expressions and physicality.

Only in that it's harder. Lots of on-camera actors give weak performances when they start doing animation, because they haven't learned the skill of performing with just the voice. And I've seen on-camera actors become better on-camera actors after they took up voice work, notably Morena Baccarin, who was a weak actress on Firefly but got much better after she played Black Canary on Justice League. Voice acting is a vital part of acting, on or off camera. There is no segregation between them.

I mean, seriously -- for most of the history of acting, it was done live on stage, and only the audience members close to the stage could really see the actors' faces clearly. The bulk of the work of acting, for all of history up until the invention of the cinematic close-up, has always been about the voice and the body more than the face.
 
I'm gonna have to go with @The Realist on this one, voice and live action are very different, and it makes perfect sense that most people separate them for videos like the Lex Luthor one. To use another animal analogy, it's like a Percheron and a pony, both horses, but still very different animals.
 
Does anyone else hope we get batwoman in the DCU?
You mean the character or the discarded movie? I'm fairly sure she will be in DCU given that they are doing the Bat family in Brave and the Bold. As for the discarded movie it's almost impossible unless someone with foresight got the film on a memory stick before everything went down.
 
You mean the character or the discarded movie? I'm fairly sure she will be in DCU given that they are doing the Bat family in Brave and the Bold. As for the discarded movie it's almost impossible unless someone with foresight got the film on a memory stick before everything went down.

Batwoman and Batgirl are different characters. The vaulted movie was Batgirl.
 
I'm gonna have to go with @The Realist on this one, voice and live action are very different, and it makes perfect sense that most people separate them for videos like the Lex Luthor one. To use another animal analogy, it's like a Percheron and a pony, both horses, but still very different animals.

Since when did difference require segregation? I'd say the difference between Lyle Talbot's Luthor and Jesse Eisenberg's Luthor is far vaster than the difference between Sherman Howard's Luthor and Clancy Brown's Luthor. And Michael Bell's Luthor in the '88 animated series was a straight-up pastiche of Hackman, so there's little difference there despite them being in different media.

That's the point. Yes, it's a difference, but it's illogical to see it as a more important difference than how characters are written or interpreted by an actor. If the video were talking about the production process or the visual design of the character, then it would be a meaningful difference. But if the point is to do an overview of how the screen interpretations of Lex Luthor have evolved over the decades, it is purely arbitrary to omit animation. It's not a meaningful difference to that particular topic, and it makes the overview incomplete for no reason beyond kneejerk anti-animation bigotry.
 
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