Why is there any doubt the vessels need SIF and Inertial dampers to function?
Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard
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That's not the ship I'm talking about. Why are you bringing up a different ship than the one that was being discussed?
You do know what ship I'm talking about, right? Or did you just jump in the middle of a conversation without knowing the details?
Okay, apparently you didn't know what ship I was talking about after all, because the need for SIFs to reinforce some ships is what I've been saying all along.
Because the criticisms you're arbitrarily levelling at a fan design apply equally well to canon designs. Or are you really going to be this obtuse? Oh, but of course you are.
Matt Jeffries gave the original Enterprise "impossible" nacelle pylons specifically to imply advanced technology far beyond the present day. Why doesn't that apply here?
Says who?
No I didn't, it's just not relevant. It's like arguing "well ackshually the Enterprise's top speed isn't warp nine because sometimes it'll run out of fuel and not be able to go to warp, nyah, gotcha there, smug mode".
I never said it had to run at full capacity all the time. You did. I asked for a source. You provided none.
Also, life support can't possibly run at maximum power 24/7, or else starships would never be able to carry any extra personnel.
Unless non-hero ships are self-destructing left right and centre that can't possibly be true, can it? Also – a safety system can be robust without being indestructible. Which has been the whole gist of my argument all the way through, which you're choosing to ignore/straw man.
Because apparently it exists in magnificent isolation with no physical design characteristics in common with any other starship we've ever seen?
It still has more substantial nacelle pylons than this entirely canonical starship...
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Yup, this where this conversation ends. It's just not that serious and never was. I voiced my opinion on a specific design (or rather, an early rendition of that design) and why I thought it wasn't right, but I'm not interested in arguing just for the sake of arguing. Agree to disagree. And since nothing is going to change about a fictional subject anyway, I'm just going to move on.
Have fun.
But that looks more like a Constitution than the Titan. The configuration and proportions are almost identical to Matt Jefferies' original design.
You think so? I guess you have a point there that there's a certain look that all Enterprises are supposed to have, but I kind of think that particular design carries onwards from the Sovereign-class better I hate to admit than the Enterprise-F does. Or maybe it's just a continued design evolution from the Constitution-class...
USS Gregory Jein NCC-103145, Jein class; in honor of Gregory Jein. Designed and rendered by John Eaves.
https://twitter.com/DaveBlass/status/1661711185891274752
https://twitter.com/DaveBlass/status/1661711185891274752
USS Gregory Jein NCC-103145, Jein class; in honor of Gregory Jein. Designed and rendered by John Eaves.
https://twitter.com/DaveBlass/status/1661711185891274752
That’s a cool design. The pass through where the saucer and secondary hull meet is definitely interesting
That would have made for a nicer option for the E-G, I think.
That's definitely got some new, inspired bits to it. I like it!USS Gregory Jein NCC-103145, Jein class; in honor of Gregory Jein. Designed and rendered by John Eaves.
https://twitter.com/DaveBlass/status/1661711185891274752
Whoa, I was not expecting the pleasant surprise of a new ship class revelation a month after the finale dropped!USS Gregory Jein NCC-103145, Jein class; in honor of Gregory Jein. Designed and rendered by John Eaves.
https://twitter.com/DaveBlass/status/1661711185891274752
R.I.P. the honourable Gregory Jein
USS Gregory Jein NCC-103145, Jein class; in honor of Gregory Jein. Designed and rendered by John Eaves.
https://twitter.com/DaveBlass/status/1661711185891274752
That's really pretty! Did the Ibn Majid perhaps belong to this class? The silhouette looks pretty similar, but that could just be the Eaves-ness of it all.
I actually would like to know more about what's going on in that background, too!
You are not the first commenter to make this observation, but short of a retcon, I do not believe it to be the case. Back during season 1, then-showrunner Michael Chabon identified the U.S.S. ibn Majid as a Curiosity-class cruiser.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Curiosity_class
It does look very close. I think the I.M. (of the Curiosity Class) is supposed to have Sovereign-style warp engines, based on the one silhouette we've seen:
The USS Jein is apparently the class ship (Jein Class, not Curiosity). Understandable they look nearly identical. They are both Eaves designs.
Ninja'd...
Ahaha! To your credit I do believe you provided a different approach to the proof by embedding the ibn Majid visual.Ninja'd...
I can see the difference now that I look closely. The Jein class has impulse engine housings that go further back from what appears to be a slightly more elliptical saucer vs the Curiosity class.
The nacelles, though, could arguably be the same.
The nacelles, though, could arguably be the same.
I also noticed that the area of the Jein's rear hangar bay has some pointy bits on either side of the landing deck that the I.M. silhouette doesn't appear to have. I really want to see more of this thing. It's a nice looking design.
I see the pointy bits now, gives it a Batmobile kinda feel.
