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Discussed earlier upthread was Ringo Starr and the movie "That'll Be The Day" and the David Essex single from the soundtrack "Rock On". Well, the film saw its London premier on 13-May-1973 and here's a clip from it. Keith Moon can barely be seen on drums

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The single itself won't be released in the US until August.

The song being performed in the clip is "Long Live Rock" by Pete Townshend of The Who.

Here's The Who's version.

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It was originally intended for the follow-up to "Who's Next", the concept album entitled "Rock Is Dead, Long Live Rock" which would have told the history of The Who through song. The album/songs were recorded before eventually being scrapped as the concept evolved into "Quadrophenia". Only "Love, Reign O'er Me" made the final album, with "Relay" and "Join Together" being released as singles.
 
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she suddenly disappears, having dropped her laundry basket.
Add a laundry basket to the laundry list of supplies on the Minnow, unless it was bamboo.

...because they don't need a reason to hunt heads.
Mary Ann has a very nice head.

Seeing no canoe or sign of passage in the lagoon
The perimeter of the island must be covered with impenetrable vegetation except for the lagoon.

the Professor discards his original theory and jumps to the idea that one of the male castaways may be a Jekyll/Hyde.
This is what happens when you have a degree in psychiatry-- you start looking for the crazy.

Skipper falls through the door, to find the other castaways in what the Professor has identified as an old Japanese munitions pit from the war.
They should have had a few skeletons strewn around.

When Gilligan hears them calling out for him, he assumes that the castaways are haunting him and runs into a tree, knocking himself out.
Too bad none of them thought to call out until now. :rommie:

Gilligan dreams that he's the beloved Dr. Gilligan
The dreams are coming fast and furious now.

Mrs. Howell drops in via umbrella as Gilligan's defence barrister, Mary Poppins.
I like how they bring in these extraneous characters out of left field, like Sherlock and Watson in the Dracula dream.

Ginger in the role of a "lady in red"
Wink wink.

Gilligan changes into Mr. Hyde when foods are listed
Cinnamon Pop Tarts! Rowr!

Gilligan wakes up and, hearing the voices again, stumbles through the trap door while holding onto the laundry line, providing the castaways' means of salvation.
"You saved us, Little Buddy!"

Gilligan pranks the girls by popping up in a rubber fright mask while they're talking about food.
Now that's something I can believe was on the Minnow. :rommie:

the Luftwaffe doctor (George Tyne) finds him to be in terrible condition, but doesn't consider that to be a disqualification for the assignment.
Since he'll die almost immediately anyway.

Klink formally turns over command of the stalag to Captain Fritz Gruber (Dick Wilson), an extremely strict disciplinarian
It seems like this trope has been getting a lot of use lately.

In the coda, the escapees are rounded up from their hiding places by Klink and Schultz, and Hogan gets them out of time in the cooler.
I think Klink is in on it, too, at this point. :rommie:

He went off the grid to escape from his own compulsions, succumbed to temptation, was accepted by the castaways, but had to flee with a flimsy excuse before experiencing another bout of recidivism. He probably ended up killed by headhunters on another island.

So Mulcahy is also a serial impostor...takes one to know one!
The Other Great Imposter. How many people has he been?

I think you're digging up retro that was meant to stay buried... :eek:
"I know NOTHINK!"
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The Ultra-Humanite and Dr. Sivana were bald mad scientist super villains before Luthor. Egghead had also appeared on Batman by the time the GI episode aired, but only a month earlier.
I'm not so familiar with the Ultra-Humanite, but I definitely should have thought of Sivana and Egghead.

I think GI might have lucked into anticipating Blofeld's appearance because they wanted to get more use out of one of those bald wigs from a few episodes prior.
That's probably exactly what it was. :rommie:

Maybe it's Howell's toll road. Maybe they're all Howell's toll roads.
Maybe he owns Route 66.

Come to think of it, wouldn't it have been more appropriate if he'd given that real estate in Denver to Gilligan...?
That would have been great, especially with a subtle double take from Gilligan in response. :rommie:

and here's a clip from it.
This rings absolutely zero bells whatsoever.

Here's The Who's version.
Long live Rock! Except I think it's actually dead for real now.
 
50 Years Ago This Week

May 20
  • Britain's Royal Navy sent three frigates to protect British fishing vessels from Icelandic ships in the Cod War dispute.

May 22
  • White House press secretary Ronald Ziegler delivered U.S. President Nixon's statement regarding the Watergate scandal. The president admitted that he had, on occasion, ordered wiretapping of telephones to discover the source of leaks of confidential information, as well as having created the "Plumbers" [unit] to stop information leaking, but denied any involvement in the installation of listening devices in Democratic Party offices in the Watergate Hotel.

May 23
  • The final paintings made by Pablo Picasso, during his last two years of life, were put on exhibit for the first time, in a show at the Palace of the Popes in the French city of Avignon. In all, 201 paintings were put on display, all unsigned.

May 24
  • Died: U.S. Congressman William O. Mills, 48, committed suicide with a shotgun wound to his chest, after being implicated in the Watergate scandal. Mills, of Maryland, had failed to report that he had received $25,000 from President Nixon's re-election committee. His death came the day after the Washington Post had reported the contribution, and four days after the Washington Star-News had broken the story. Before killing himself at his farm home in Easton, Maryland, Mills called a local radio station and played a recording denying that he had done anything improper.

May 25
  • The Skylab 2 space mission, with U.S. astronauts Pete Conrad, Paul J. Weitz, and Joseph P. Kerwin, was launched to repair damage to the recently launched Skylab space station. Using a vehicle and equipment from the canceled Apollo 18 mission, Skylab 2 was the first crewed space mission for the U.S. since the end of the Apollo program in 1972.
  • U.S. Defense Secretary Elliot Richardson became the new U.S. Attorney General after the forced resignation of Richard Kleindienst. Bill Clements replaced Richardson as Defense Secretary.
  • Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells became the first release on Richard Branson's newly launched Virgin label.

May 26
  • The Cod Wars between Iceland and the UK escalated when the Icelandic Cost Guard gunboat Aegir fired shells at the British fish trawler Everton, after the fishing vessel's captain ignored several warning shots. The Everton had at least two holes in it but its crew of 21 was uninjured.
  • A U.S. Secret Service agent was killed, and nine other persons on board a presidential helicopter were injured, when the U.S. Army Sikorsky VH-3A aircraft crashed into the Atlantic Ocean while patrolling the waters around President Nixon's vacation home at Grand Cay Island in the Bahamas. Joseph C. Dietrich was one of seven agents who had been sent from Nixon's Key Biscayne residence in Florida to replace other agents who had been on duty.


Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
1. "Frankenstein," The Edgar Winter Group
2. "My Love," Paul McCartney & Wings
3. "Daniel," Elton John
4. "Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Ole Oak Tree," Dawn feat. Tony Orlando
5. "You Are the Sunshine of My Life," Stevie Wonder
6. "Pillow Talk," Sylvia
7. "Little Willy," The Sweet
8. "Drift Away," Dobie Gray
9. "Wildflower," Skylark
10. "Hocus Pocus," Focus
11. "Reelin' in the Years," Steely Dan
12. "I'm Gonna Love You Just a Little More Baby," Barry White
13. "Stuck in the Middle with You," Stealers Wheel
14. "Playground in My Mind," Clint Holmes
15. "Funky Worm," Ohio Players
16. "The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia," Vicki Lawrence
17. "The Right Thing to Do," Carly Simon
18. "Thinking of You," Loggins & Messina
19. "Steamroller Blues" / "Fool", Elvis Presley
20. "Daisy a Day," Jud Strunk
21. "I'm Doin' Fine Now," New York City
22. "Right Place, Wrong Time," Dr. John

24. "The Cisco Kid," War
25. "Will It Go Round in Circles," Billy Preston
26. "No More Mr. Nice Guy," Alice Cooper

29. "One of a Kind (Love Affair)," The Spinners
30. "Long Train Runnin'," The Doobie Brothers

34. "Give Me Love (Give Me Peace on Earth)," George Harrison

36. "Out of the Question," Gilbert O'Sullivan

42. "Daddy Could Swear, I Declare," Gladys Knight & The Pips

44. "Bad, Bad Leroy Brown," Jim Croce

46. "You Can't Always Get What You Want," The Rolling Stones

47. "Natural High," Bloodstone
48. "Sing," Carpenters
49. "Behind Closed Doors," Charlie Rich
50. "The Twelfth of Never," Donny Osmond

54. "Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy," Bette Midler
55. "Shambala," Three Dog Night
56. "Masterpiece," The Temptations
57. "Kodachrome," Paul Simon

60. "Why Me," Kris Kristofferson

67. "I Like You," Donovan
68. "Diamond Girl," Seals & Crofts

71. "So Very Hard to Go," Tower of Power

73. "Money," Pink Floyd

75. "Peaceful," Helen Reddy

77. "Monster Mash," Bobby "Boris" Pickett & The Crypt-Kickers

81. "Time to Get Down," The O'Jays

85. "Smoke on the Water," Deep Purple


Leaving the chart:
  • "Hallelujah Day," Jackson 5 (10 weeks)
  • "Walk on the Wild Side," Lou Reed (14 weeks)

Recent and new on the chart:

"Time to Get Down," The O'Jays
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(May 19; #33 US; #2 R&B)

"Smoke on the Water," Deep Purple
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(#4 US; #426 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time [2004])

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Discussed earlier upthread was Ringo Starr and the movie "That'll Be The Day" and the David Essex single from the soundtrack "Rock On". Well, the film saw its London premier on 13-May-1973 and here's a clip from it. Keith Moon can barely be seen on drums

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The music seems very anachronistic for the '50s.

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Hey, it's that guy from the History Channel!

Add a laundry basket to the laundry list of supplies on the Minnow, unless it was bamboo.
It was wicker...no doubt off the shelf, but something they might have credibly made on the island.

The perimeter of the island must be covered with impenetrable vegetation except for the lagoon.
That definitely seems to be the best place to come ashore.

Too bad none of them thought to call out until now. :rommie:
Indeed...a bit too contrived.

The dreams are coming fast and furious now.
I read something indicating that they became much more common in the third season.

I like how they bring in these extraneous characters out of left field, like Sherlock and Watson in the Dracula dream.
But generally setting-appropriate ones, so it's pretty clever.

Since he'll die almost immediately anyway.
According to the doctor, the only qualification was that he was breathing.

It seems like this trope has been getting a lot of use lately.
Last time it was an unseen substitute; this time an onscreen replacement. And it is generally a recurring thing in the show that the prisoners have to prop Klink up on occasion to keep him in charge.

He went off the grid to escape from his own compulsions, succumbed to temptation, was accepted by the castaways, but had to flee with a flimsy excuse before experiencing another bout of recidivism. He probably ended up killed by headhunters on another island.
I took it more as he was playing them all along.

I'm not so familiar with the Ultra-Humanite, but I definitely should have thought of Sivana and Egghead.
Superman's original bald mad scientist arch-villain, from 1939 before Luthor with hair had even popped up. Made something of a comeback in the '80s Earth-2 continuity, differentiating him via a gimmick used in the Golden Age of switching his brain into other bodies. Best known at this point for the albino gorilla body he took on in the '80s.

Maybe he owns Route 66.
Or the interstate that replaced it.
 
Britain's Royal Navy sent three frigates to protect British fishing vessels from Icelandic ships in the Cod War dispute.
Holy Mackerel.

In all, 201 paintings were put on display, all unsigned.
Sorry, Pablo, we need a signature, plus two forms of photo ID.

U.S. Congressman William O. Mills, 48, committed suicide
And there's something you don't see very often.

The Skylab 2 space mission, with U.S. astronauts Pete Conrad, Paul J. Weitz, and Joseph P. Kerwin, was launched to repair damage to the recently launched Skylab space station.
They set up a cute little umbrella.

Using a vehicle and equipment from the canceled Apollo 18 mission
A likely story.

"Time to Get Down," The O'Jays
I'm not familiar with this one. It's okay.

"Smoke on the Water," Deep Purple
I've already told my junior high school dance story. :rommie:

Hey, it's that guy from the History Channel!
It's that guy from history. :rommie:

I read something indicating that they became much more common in the third season.
It was a great way to mix things up and get away from the island setting.

But generally setting-appropriate ones, so it's pretty clever.
Indeed. Speaking of Wold Newton. :rommie:

I took it more as he was playing them all along.
Now I'm sad and disillusioned. :rommie:

Superman's original bald mad scientist arch-villain, from 1939 before Luthor with hair had even popped up. Made something of a comeback in the '80s Earth-2 continuity, differentiating him via a gimmick used in the Golden Age of switching his brain into other bodies. Best known at this point for the albino gorilla body he took on in the '80s.
Wow, none of that rings a bell for me at all. Except for the name, which I've definitely heard.

Or the interstate that replaced it.
Well, it still existed then. Most of it, anyway. I'm not sure what its exact status was. But it's really not dead... as long as we remember him... I mean it.
 
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Gilligan's Island
"All About Eva"
Originally aired December 12, 1966
IMDb said:
An unattractive and lovelorn woman named Eva Grubb comes to the island to escape civilization and offers the castaways her boat. But before they can leave, the women give her a makeover and turn her into a Ginger Grant lookalike.

No teaser in this one. A cabin cruiser pulls up in the lagoon and out steps Eva (Tina Louise gets a post-opening credit for the role). She goes to look around the island and Ginger and Gilligan find the unoccupied craft, which the Professor determines doesn't have a radio, and then finds one of Eva's shoes near some prints that she left. Gilligan comes across her while searching and she's frightened to find other people on the island. She explains to Gilligan and the Skipper how she came to the island to get away from men after a disastrous first blind date, and offers to let the castaways have her boat if they'll leave her alone on the island. But the Professor doesn't think they can abandon Eva in her emotional state, so the castaways plan to send a boat back for her. When Gilligan lets that cat out of the bag, she hides the boat's spark plugs, declaring that the castaways will be stuck on the island with her.

After an unsuccessful bribery attempt by the Howells, Ginger gets the idea of changing Eva's attitude about herself by giving her a makeover, but in doing so, the castaways are shocked to discover that she's a ringer for Ginger. Eva can hardly believe the result, can't wait to return to civilization as her new self, and hands over the spark plugs. But then she overhears Ginger telling Mary Ann how only one of them can be Ginger Grant, and it starts to become clear to Eva that the others have trouble telling the two of them apart, so she knocks Ginger out in the jungle and ties her up, planning to return to civilization as Ginger while making the castaways think that Eva's staying behind. She attends a leaving-the-island party, for which she resorts to the sitcom schtick of switching back and forth between identities. Then Gilligan accidentally breaks her hidden glasses while dancing with her when she's posing as Ginger, causing some awkwardness to ensue as she can't tell Gilligan from Mrs. Howell. (This is an odd bit of business, as she hadn't been wearing her glasses while posing as Ginger in the first place, and only suffered comical vision mishaps once the unworn glasses were broken.) The real Ginger, having escaped from her bonds offscreen, shows up to expose Eva, who expresses her shame and regret. But the next day, the castaways find the boat gone...Eva having left behind a taunting note about how she plans to be the new Ginger Grant...leaving the old Ginger in tears.

I have to wonder how Eva's return to civilization as Ginger turned out. IMDb reinforces my hazy memory that this wasn't brought up in the reunion movie. Speaking of, IMDb has some positively bizarre notes for this episode...like multiple examples of contributors claiming that other works of fiction in which people break their glasses are specifically referencing it.

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Hogan's Heroes
"Klink's Rocket"
Originally aired December 16, 1966
Frndly said:
Hogan tries decoying Luftwaffe bombers to a well-defended Allied base.

RE-POOOOOORRRRRRRRRRT!

Klink assembles the prisoners to deliver a little propaganda about how the Germans are blitzing London. Hogan decides to divert the bombing by feeding Klink intel about a rocket gun being made in the town of Leedingham, where the English have a trap set. Pieces of the puzzle include arranging for Schultz to find a shot-down English airman named Billett (John Orchard) hanging from a tree; Hogan casually mentioning the rocket gun being developed while swiping a piece of Klink's office lamp; and Carter letting Klink see him with said piece, which is supposed to be a part from the gun that Billett was supposed to be taking to Russia.

The other prisoners listen in as Klink tries to loosen Carter's lips by treating him to a sumptuous turkey dinner...though the others mistake his moans of pleasure for the sounds of torture. Klink summons a General Von Lintzer (Harold Gould) to be there when he breaks Carter. When the time comes to spill the beans to the general, Carter can't remember the name of the town--also an issue when Hogan was briefing him--so Hogan has to pop in to squeal on his behalf.

The day after the raid, Klink informs Hogan that 62 German bombers were shot down, but is persuaded not to share his belief that it was a trap; and Hogan reveals the origin of the alleged rocket gun piece, which actually makes Klink laugh.

Apparently this episode was more historically problematic for the show than usual, as more than one IMDb contributor commented on. The Blitz was a 1940-1941 thing, preceding American bombardment of Germany, and thus the series premise and starting date of 1943; and while there was a relatively ineffective "Baby Blitz" in early 1944, it still preceded D-Day; yet Klink shows Hogan a map of Allied troop positions in Germany, which would place this episode unusually late in the war, in 1945.

DIS-MIIIIIIIIIISSSED!

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Holy Mackerel.
I'm not even going to dig out the sad trombone for that one.

And there's something you don't see very often.
Over $25,000...or maybe the jail time involved. Hey, Danbury's not that bad.

They set up a cute little umbrella.
:lol: It was hard to tell what they were doing in that documentary video.

A likely story.
I didn't realize until I looked it up that they'd originally planned to have as many as 20 Apollo mission, the last three of which were cancelled.

I'm not familiar with this one. It's okay.
I don't have it, and don't find it terribly engaging, but it's on the Back Stabbers album, which is on the original RS list, FWIW at this point, as I haven't been as invested in that list lately.

I've already told my junior high school dance story. :rommie:
But now you're getting the stone-cold classic studio version...which has been in my shuffle for some time, as it's a belated single release from a couple of Deep Purple studio albums ago in 50th Anniversaryland, hailing back to early '72.

Now I'm sad and disillusioned. :rommie:
Sorry about that, Hutch.[/donadams]

Wow, none of that rings a bell for me at all. Except for the name, which I've definitely heard.
His originally body-swapping from the Golden Age was having his brain placed in the body of a beautiful movie actress. Mary Ann with the Professor's brain and voice actually made me flash to the Ultra-Humanite.

Well, it still existed then. Most of it, anyway. I'm not sure what its exact status was. But it's really not dead... as long as we remember him... I mean it.
When the ex and I drove cross-country 20 years ago now, it was hard to find extant stretches of the former Route 66.
 
Made something of a comeback in the '80s Earth-2 continuity, differentiating him via a gimmick used in the Golden Age of switching his brain into other bodies. Best known at this point for the albino gorilla body he took on in the '80s.

Wow, none of that rings a bell for me at all. Except for the name, which I've definitely heard.

His originally body-swapping from the Golden Age was having his brain placed in the body of a beautiful movie actress. Mary Ann with the Professor's brain and voice actually made me flash to the Ultra-Humanite.

My first exposure to the Ultra-Humanite was in the pages of 'Infinity Inc', featuring the sons/daughters and legacy characters of the original Earth-2 Justice Society.

Going from memory, in the first story arc, several of the sons and daughters petitioned to be a part of the Justice Society but were rejected by their parents; so, Sylvester Pemberton aka 'The Star-Spangled Kid' offered them the opportunity to join his new venture, 'Infinity, Inc.', based out of the seemingly abandoned Pemberton Studios which the time-displaced Sylvester had inherited from a relative.

The Society responded to a distress signal and were seemingly 'killed' in a flash flood (including Superman). The Ultra-Humanite then 'resurrected' them using a combination of his and another Society villain, Brainwave mental powers to turn them evil and set them against the remaining members of the Society who hadn't responded to the signal and it was up to the members of 'Infinity' to stop them.

Silver Scarab, the son of Hawkman and Hawkwoman fought. Fury, the daughter of Wonder Woman clashed. Nuklon, the nephew of The Atom battled. Power Girl traded blows with her cousin Superman and a couple of others I'm forgetting.

In the end, Brainwave Jr. the son of Brainwave, convinced his father to turn against the Ultra-Humanite and free the Society from the Ultra-Humanite's control, but, in the end, the Ultra-Humanite's mental powers were greater than Brainwave's and the mental feedback killed him.

The Society offered membership to their sons and daughters, but they decided to stay together as 'Infinity Inc.'

Writer Roy Thomas was pick up dangling/obscure threads from the Golden Age of comics and incorporate/weave them into 'Infinity Inc.'; including the fact, that at one time, the Ultra-Humanite had his brain placed in the body of an actress before scumming to injuries then having it placed in the genetically modified body of an albino gorilla where he first appeared in the pages of 'Infinity Inc.'

Edit to add - In the first several issues, there was a back-up feature with biographies featuring members of 'Infinity Inc.' including their dates of birth. If 'real world' math were applied to their dates of birth, they would now all be in their late-60s/early-70s. Old enough to be grandparents.
 
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The albino gorilla body was established in the 1981 JLA/JSA crossover, which was by Gerry Conway and George Perez. Prior to that, the Ultra-Humanite had made a comeback in a "Mr. & Mrs. Superman" story in Superman Family, which took place in the 1950s and had Ultra still in Delores Winters's body. The subsequent JLA/JSA crossover had suggested that the Ultra-Humanite had transferred his brain to other bodies over the years between Winters and the gorilla.
 
Ginger and Gilligan find the unoccupied craft, which the Professor determines doesn't have a radio
In violation of Maritime Code Section 2, paragraph 6.

She explains to Gilligan and the Skipper how she came to the island to get away from men after a disastrous first blind date
It was Don Rickles, who gave her the coordinates of the island.

When Gilligan lets that cat out of the bag, she hides the boat's spark plugs
"The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain."

the castaways are shocked to discover that she's a ringer for Ginger.
Our latest Evil Twin has arrived.

(This is an odd bit of business, as she hadn't been wearing her glasses while posing as Ginger in the first place, and only suffered comical vision mishaps once the unworn glasses were broken.)
"It's psychosomatic," says the Professor. "I did my Master's Thesis on psychosomatic disorder for my degree."

Eva having left behind a taunting note about how she plans to be the new Ginger Grant...leaving the old Ginger in tears.
She really was evil. Sort of the reverse of the Don Rickles plot.

I have to wonder how Eva's return to civilization as Ginger turned out. IMDb reinforces my hazy memory that this wasn't brought up in the reunion movie.
She never made it back to civilization. The headhunters got her.

Speaking of, IMDb has some positively bizarre notes for this episode...like multiple examples of contributors claiming that other works of fiction in which people break their glasses are specifically referencing it.
That's pretty silly. People have been breaking their glasses since Ben Franklin.

Pieces of the puzzle include arranging for Schultz to find a shot-down English airman named Billett (John Orchard) hanging from a tree
Whoa. :crazy:

Klink tries to loosen Carter's lips by treating him to a sumptuous turkey dinner...though the others mistake his moans of pleasure for the sounds of torture.
:rommie:

General Von Lintzer (Harold Gould)
Omnipresent character actor. He also starred in that show with Stefanie Powers that I never watched.

Hogan reveals the origin of the alleged rocket gun piece, which actually makes Klink laugh.
Odd, but funny.

Apparently this episode was more historically problematic for the show than usual, as more than one IMDb contributor commented on. The Blitz was a 1940-1941 thing, preceding American bombardment of Germany, and thus the series premise and starting date of 1943; and while there was a relatively ineffective "Baby Blitz" in early 1944, it still preceded D-Day; yet Klink shows Hogan a map of Allied troop positions in Germany, which would place this episode unusually late in the war, in 1945.
It's a bubble universe of WWII stuff, mixed haphazardly.

I'm not even going to dig out the sad trombone for that one.
:D

Over $25,000...or maybe the jail time involved. Hey, Danbury's not that bad.
Shame? Can politicians feel shame?

:lol: It was hard to tell what they were doing in that documentary video.
I actually thought that was great. An example of good old-fashioned NASA problem solving.

I didn't realize until I looked it up that they'd originally planned to have as many as 20 Apollo mission, the last three of which were cancelled.
Yeah, it was funded up through 20 and then pulled back. Some of the finished equipment was used for Skylab, but much went unused or was not completed. I think (but I'm not sure) that there's a fully functional Lunar Rover at the Smithsonian, and maybe some other stuff lying around. But my remark was in reference to the conspiracy theory that there was at least one more landing completed in secret, because of all the aliens up there.

But now you're getting the stone-cold classic studio version...
Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice.

Sorry about that, Hutch.[/donadams]
:guffaw:

His originally body-swapping from the Golden Age was having his brain placed in the body of a beautiful movie actress.
Pretty kinky for that era. :rommie:

When the ex and I drove cross-country 20 years ago now, it was hard to find extant stretches of the former Route 66.
Looking at the Wiki page for Route 66, I see there's a section on Revival. I'll read up on it later. Maybe there's a petition or something. :D

Writer Roy Thomas was pick up dangling/obscure threads from the Golden Age of comics
Something he excelled at, as do guys like Steve Englehart and Kurt Busiek. I love that sort of thing.

then having it placed in the genetically modified body of an albino gorilla where he first appeared in the pages of 'Infinity Inc.'
How easily we accept things like having your brain placed in the body of a genetically modified albino gorilla. :rommie:

If 'real world' math were applied to their dates of birth, they would now all be in their late-60s/early-70s. Old enough to be grandparents.
I often think about stuff like that. Guys like Reed Richards and Ben Grimm would be a hundred years old, at least. There have been several out-of-continuity books that have looked at what the characters lives would have been like if they aged normally, which I always find interesting.

The subsequent JLA/JSA crossover had suggested that the Ultra-Humanite had transferred his brain to other bodies over the years between Winters and the gorilla.
That's an idea that Roy Thomas or Steve Englehart would weave into continuity and create some epic adventure. :rommie:
 
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Hogan's Heroes
"Information Please"
Originally aired December 23, 1966
IMDb said:
Suspecting a security leak at Stalag 13, Gen. Burkhalter goes fishing with some false information and Col. Hogan falls for the bait. As a result, Burkhalter plants a spy among the prisoners to expose the guilty parties.

Klink's all packed up and going somewhere again, with Schultz carrying all his suitcases...and Hogan is surprised, stating that Klink's never taken a furlough. I'll give them the production vs. airdate order excuse. Klink actually goes to Burkhalter's office over an intelligence leak from Stalag 13 having been found; Major Kohler (John Stephenson) wants Klink to offer false intelligence about a new war plant in the area, and Hogan takes the bait, getting info from Schultz that it's a rocket assembly plant, and British bombers strike the phony target. Hogan learns the truth after the fact via the coffee pot. Burkhalter plans without Klink's knowledge to have a Lieutenant James Crandall brought to the camp as a POW, who's actually a plant named Schmidt (Sam Melville), but Hogan suspiciously has the man checked out.

The prisoners test Crandall with a middle-of-the-night fire alarm, and he responds correctly when an escape route is barked to him in German. Hogan and the others subsequently feed false intel through him, implicating Kohler as the intel link; which is reinforced by the same false intel being dropped in London for the sake of the German agent who exposed the Stalag 13 leak. Kohler is arrested for Gestapo interrogation, following which Crandall is set up to escape the camp immediately. When he's reluctant to leave, they have an RAF lieutenant (Don Knight) who's been cooling his heels in the tunnel during all of this take Crandall with him as a prisoner as he makes his own escape.

In the coda, Klink reports Schmidt's escape to Burkhalter, Burkhalter assumes that this was Schmidt's own doing, and Hogan, when reporting Crandall's escape, finds that Klink is suspiciously unconcerned with the stalag's escape-proof record being broken.

It seems a bit soon for them to be using the plot point of a mole among the prisoners again, considering it had been done in the pilot episode. It also tends to call into question the credibility of the prisoners' operation, as they usually function very openly within the barracks.

DISSS-MISSED!

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Our latest Evil Twin has arrived.
And the last, from what I read.

She really was evil. Sort of the reverse of the Don Rickles plot.
I don't know about "evil"...she was disturbed.

She never made it back to civilization. The headhunters got her.
Nasty.

Alive, in his 'chute harness.

Omnipresent character actor. He also starred in that show with Stefanie Powers that I never watched.
That's an obscuro I had to look up.

Yeah, it was funded up through 20 and then pulled back. Some of the finished equipment was used for Skylab, but much went unused or was not completed. I think (but I'm not sure) that there's a fully functional Lunar Rover at the Smithsonian, and maybe some other stuff lying around. But my remark was in reference to the conspiracy theory that there was at least one more landing completed in secret, because of all the aliens up there.
That must be the one in which John Jameson picked up his moon rock.

How easily we accept things like having your brain placed in the body of a genetically modified albino gorilla. :rommie:
Well, he's a Superman villain...

I often think about stuff like that. Guys like Reed Richards and Ben Grimm would be a hundred years old, at least. There have been several out-of-continuity books that have looked at what the characters lives would have been like if they aged normally, which I always find interesting.
Superman & Batman: Generations by John Byrne was pretty interesting. The two main characters got outs for aging normally, but the world aged and changed around them, with an ersatz version of the DC continuity forming that involved time marching on and multiple generations of super-heroes in one continuity.
 
That's an idea that Roy Thomas or Steve Englehart would weave into continuity and create some epic adventure
Roy sure did. UH popped up in his Young All-Stars series doing some body hopping.
In the aforementioned Generations series by Byrne, UH had his brain transferred into Luthor’s body. So the Luthor Superman fought for decades was actually the Ultra-Humanite.
 
Klink's all packed up and going somewhere again
He's got wanderlust. :rommie: Yeah, that was too subtle to be funny.

Major Kohler (John Stephenson) wants Klink to offer false intelligence about a new war plant in the area, and Hogan takes the bait
Maybe he IS losing his touch!

The prisoners test Crandall with a middle-of-the-night fire alarm, and he responds correctly when an escape route is barked to him in German.
Hardly conclusive-- I'm sure Hogan and the boys all speak German. At least some of them do.

Hogan, when reporting Crandall's escape, finds that Klink is suspiciously unconcerned with the stalag's escape-proof record being broken.
And which will probably never be acknowledged in the future.

It also tends to call into question the credibility of the prisoners' operation, as they usually function very openly within the barracks.
They don't seem overly concerned with consistency. :rommie:

And the last, from what I read.
If only we had gotten that fourth season. I want to see that Professor versus Evil Professor showdown!

I don't know about "evil"...she was disturbed.
Disturbed Twin doesn't have the same ring to it. :rommie:

She assimilated voluntarily because they worshiped her as a Goddess of Beauty.

Alive, in his 'chute harness.
Oh. Whew.

That's an obscuro I had to look up.
Yup, I can't even imagine why I remember it. :rommie:

That must be the one in which John Jameson picked up his moon rock.
That would probably fit the timeline.

Well, he's a Superman villain...
DC in general in those days. Those guys were on some good drugs. :rommie:

Superman & Batman: Generations by John Byrne was pretty interesting. The two main characters got outs for aging normally, but the world aged and changed around them, with an ersatz version of the DC continuity forming that involved time marching on and multiple generations of super-heroes in one continuity.
Yes, I remember liking that quite a bit. Byrne is kind of a crackpot, but he's another one with encyclopedic knowledge of comics and the ability to make good use of it. I recall he came up with some formula for Superman aging where it started out the same as human but slowed according to some progressive ratio. I forget how he got Batman off the hook. Another good one was an FF Annual or Special by Karl Kesel and Tom Grummett (I don't know why those two never got the regular gig) that took place in an alternate universe where everybody aged normally. I liked that one because Johnny and Crystal were still together.

Roy sure did. UH popped up in his Young All-Stars series doing some body hopping.
In the aforementioned Generations series by Byrne, UH had his brain transferred into Luthor’s body. So the Luthor Superman fought for decades was actually the Ultra-Humanite.
And that's probably why I recognized the name Ultra-Humanite.
 
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Post-55th Anniversary Viewing

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Gilligan's Island
"Gilligan Goes Gung-Ho"
Originally aired December 26, 1966
Frndly said:
In an episode illustrating the abuse of power, Gilligan becomes a deputy sheriff and goes way overboard, arresting---and jailing---everyone for silly infractions.

Gilligan comes upon an overacted love triangle altercation between Ginger, the Professor, and Mary Ann which ends with Ginger shooting the Professor dead. I recall that they had a gun early on, though I don't think it was snub-nosed...and who brought the blanks? Gilligan runs to get the Skipper, and after the finding the Professor appearing to be lying dead (actually suffering from a nosebleed) and the girls trying to wash the blood out of a handkerchief, discover that they were just rehearsing for Ginger's benefit--and the gun with blanks seems new to the crewmen. Despite it all being a false alarm, just the men gather to elect formal law enforcement. Mr. Howell claims to know karate, but his demonstration proves comically ineffectual. The Skipper is elected sheriff, with Gilligan as his deputy, and they study up on the latest find from the island's library, a book on legal code. Gilligan, sporting a starfish star and a bamboo-tech whistle, catches Mr. Howell taking Skipper's binoculars without asking, and Howell gets himself in deeper with a bribery attempt. (They have a stage gun with blanks, but nobody brought a real thermometer or whistle.) Rather than use the standing bamboo cage from previous episodes, they put a bamboo cell door on the cave, with Howell as the first incarcerated castaway. Meanwhile, an Air Force seaplane crewed by uncredited Glenn Langan and James Spencer searches the area for an uncharted island where marooned people have been sighted--Maybe one of the many people who've left them behind on the island at this point tipped somebody off!

The girls are soon keeping Mr. Howell company following an altercation over a fire that's too close to their hut; and Lovey is caught trying to smuggle in a file via cake. The Professor, who's been gathering phosphorescent rocks with the Skipper for making a signal, is taken in for carrying a concealed weapon--a stick of homemade dynamite he had stuffed in his shirt. The Skipper forces the key from Gilligan and goes to free the others, but Gilligan locks him in for police brutality. The incarcerated castaways try to get out by reenacting scenes from a couple of prison movies that Ginger was in, but Gilligan has seen both films. He then attempts to recreate a favorite scene, which involves locking himself in with them and tossing away the key. Right on cue, the castaways hear the plane passing overhead. When the others are about to pronounce sentence on Gilligan, he manages to do what the six of them couldn't manage together--to bust through the cell door.

In the coda, Skipper locks up Gilligan for interfering with their potential rescue, but Gilligan demonstrates how he can dig like a mole because he saw The Count of Monte Crisco.

Even if there were no castaways out and about, you'd think that perhaps the plane might have spotted signs of habitation, like the hut area and the bamboo car.

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WWWs2e15.jpg
"The Night of the Lord of Limbo"
Originally aired December 30, 1966
Wiki said:
Jim and Artie encounter Colonel Vautrain, a crippled, legless former Confederate officer who has mastered the ability to travel through time. His plan is to go back in time and alter history, thus not only restoring his legs but also having the Confederate Army win the war—by killing Ulysses Grant.

Having received tickets anonymously, Jim and Artie are unimpressed with the parlor tricks of Arabian-dressed stage magician Abu the Magnificent (Ricardo Montalban), until he sees them about to leave and makes a harem girl named Yasine (Dianne Foster) appear, along with what he identifies as King Solomon's throne. Yasine goes into the audience and chooses Artie to sit in it, following which the magician makes himself, Yasine, the throne, and Artie disappear. Concerned at the theater manager (Harry Harvey Sr.) clearly not having expected the sudden ending, Jim goes backstage to be informed that there are no trap doors, and hears what sounds like Artie's ghostly voice calling him. The one thing left behind is Abu's "Sword of Ishtar," a saber which is stamped "N.B.V., Vicksburg, Miss."

Jim heads to a vets' club in Vicksburg, where he tries to find out who "N.B.V." is and has to fight off a man named Scoffield (Felice Orlandi) who wants to take the sword; following which the bartender (Davis Roberts) slips him a note with the names of Noel Bartley Vautrain and his manor. There Jim meets the wheelchair-bound Vautrain and his niece Amanda--Abu and Yasine in contemporary clothing--and has to fight off Captain Scoffield again along with a couple of other heavies, following which Jim accepts Vautrain's insistent invitation to dinner. Vautrain reveals that it was Jim that Yasine was meant to pick from the audience, and that he holds West responsible for saving his life during the war only for his legs to be amputated. He wants Jim to help him regain those legs, and using Artie's whereabouts as bait, directs Jim to a door upstairs...which Jim walks through to find himself in a dark, misty void.

Jim exits into a wood, where he's with a man named Levering (Gregory Morton) who informs him that he's there to duel a Jack Maitland--who turns out to be Artie. The fencing duel commences, but is interrupted by a group of bandits who enter by shooting Levering. Jim and Artie disarm the bandits, but one of them shoots Artie, to have a saber thrown into him by Jim. As he dies, Jack maintains his character, clearly not knowing who Jim is.

Jim returns with Artie, now living and remembering who he is. Vautrain explains that he sent Jim back through time, and after demonstrating his ability to make a bronze bust disappear, describes how he's mastered the ability (apparently in India) to open a warp in space through which teams of Marco Polos could explore...the fourth dimension. (Note that Montalban's appearance on Trek is still a month and a half ahead of us at this point.) He believes that by going back through time himself, he can regain his legs, and feels that Jim owes it to him to accompany him on the potentially hazardous journey. Jim has a romantic interlude with Amanda, who doesn't want him to go, hinting at things her uncle hasn't told him, though Jim feels that if there is a fourth dimension, he owes it to his country to conduct a threat assessment. The trip proceeds, with both agents accompanying Vautrain back to his manor at the height of its splendor. Vautrain is younger now, his full beard replaced by a thin mustache...and while he's still sitting in a wheelchair, his legs have been restored, and he rises to enjoy walking downstairs.

Vautrain removes a robe to reveal his Confederate uniform underneath, and his desire to use his trip through time to win the war for the Confederacy. Captain Scoffield and a couple of other soldiers appear to report the Union Army's advance, and Vautrain helps jog Jim's memory of how he commandeered the house as General Grant's aide. Vautrain reveals that he has his old hiding place behind a bookshelf filled with explosives, waiting for Grant's arrival. Jim and Artie jump the soldiers, and as Jim finds himself at a standoff point with Vautrain, a Union shell enters the house and history repeats itself...Vautrain finding his legs crushed under the fallen bookshelf. As flames rise toward the explosives, Vautrain insists that Jim leave him to his fate this time, using a wounded Artie's welfare as incentive. Jim carries Artie upstairs through the Time Tunnel door, and the agents find themselves outside the manor...which for some reason is still burning seven years later, so that Jim can inform Amanda that her uncle is inside.

In the train coda, we learn that no bodies were found inside, and Jim convinces Artie to submit a falsified report to Colonel Falk (Ed Prentiss, billed as Col. Fairchild) that involves him having gone missing with amnesia.

In addition to the lack of time travel logic, nobody in the episode even attempted a southern accent.

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Hogan's Heroes
"Art for Hogan's Sake"
Originally aired December 30, 1966
IMDb said:
An assertive Gen. Burkhalter "requisitions" the famous Édouard Manet painting, "The Fife Player," from the Louvre museum in Paris to give to Hermann Goering as a birthday present. Undaunted by seemingly impossible logistics, Hogan and LeBeau decide to steal it back.

Burkhalter has to get out of his car on the way to Stalag 13 to take cover with the packed-up painting because of Allied bombing. He wants to keep it there until Goering's birthday for safekeeping, and LeBeau, eavesdropping on the office to find out what Burkhalter brought, is outraged to the point of tears, and sneaks into the office to cut the canvas out of its frame. Hogan initially wants to return it to keep Klink in Burkhalter's good graces; then has second thoughts, seeing the opportunity for some intel gathering while taking it back to Paris. Hogan returns ashes to Klink's office, leading Klink to believe that LeBeau burned the painting; then Hogan suggests a scheme for him and LeBeau to travel to Paris with Schultz and Corporal Karl Langenscheidt (Jon Cedar) to have the painting duplicated by a forger LeBeau knows. They smuggle the painting in the car, and along the way persuade Schultz to impersonate a general.

At a sidewalk cafe, while General Schultz watches nearby--and a couple of Gestapo types watch more closely--Hogan and LeBeau meet a pair named Suzette (Ina Victor) and Verlaine (Norbert Schiller). They take the painting to Verlaine's studio for copying, where Schultz sees the real painting NOTH-THINGK! The plainclothes Gestapo man (John Crawford) and his uniformed aide pay the place a visit, where everyone hides but Suzette and a drunken Schultz, who covers for the others by acting offended at the interruption. The forgery is taken back to the stalag, where Burkhalter examines the painting carefully, thinking that something's wrong with it. Hogan and LeBeau drop in, LeBeau inspects the painting, and confirms that it's a forgery...claiming that sources back home have told him the original was already taken by Goering and replaced.

In the coda, Hogan has Kinch send London the intel they gathered on the trip about the deployment of German forces, and Schultz wants to borrow the general's uniform for a leave.

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He's got wanderlust. :rommie: Yeah, that was too subtle to be funny.
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If only we had gotten that fourth season. I want to see that Professor versus Evil Professor showdown!
Or just reveal that the Professor was evil all along...

I forget how he got Batman off the hook.
Defeated R'as al Ghul, took over his criminal organization to repurpose for humanitarian purposes, and used the Lazarus Pit.
 
Gilligan comes upon an overacted love triangle altercation between Ginger, the Professor, and Mary Ann which ends with Ginger shooting the Professor dead.
Great. Now nobody can have him.

I recall that they had a gun early on, though I don't think it was snub-nosed...and who brought the blanks?
Maybe Ginger was going to rehearsal after the three-hour tour and still had it in her purse.

Gilligan runs to get the Skipper
Who didn't hear the shot. :rommie:

Mr. Howell claims to know karate, but his demonstration proves comically ineffectual.
Don't forget Mrs Howell's Kung Fu moves. They should have made her sheriff.

they study up on the latest find from the island's library, a book on legal code.
They could have used this when the Howells needed to get married. And something else. Wasn't there another legal issue that came up?

(They have a stage gun with blanks, but nobody brought a real thermometer or whistle.)
The Minnow definitely should have had a thermometer in its First-Aid Kit.

Rather than use the standing bamboo cage from previous episodes, they put a bamboo cell door on the cave
"I sentence you to ten years with cursed artifacts."

Meanwhile, an Air Force seaplane crewed by uncredited Glenn Langan and James Spencer searches the area for an uncharted island where marooned people have been sighted--Maybe one of the many people who've left them behind on the island at this point tipped somebody off!
This would have been a great opportunity to name a name for a little continuity.

The Professor, who's been gathering phosphorescent rocks with the Skipper for making a signal, is taken in for carrying a concealed weapon--a stick of homemade dynamite he had stuffed in his shirt.
Whoa! I'd call that protective custody.

The incarcerated castaways try to get out by reenacting scenes from a couple of prison movies that Ginger was in, but Gilligan has seen both films.
Missed opportunity for a prison movie dream. :rommie:

Even if there were no castaways out and about, you'd think that perhaps the plane might have spotted signs of habitation, like the hut area and the bamboo car.
Especially if they were looking for it. But the hut area is small and the huts themselves would look like vegetation from above-- at least from straight up. I guess it would depend how high the plane is and if the angle of the trees hides the bamboo walls. You'd think it would at least give the impression of something organized in the randomness of the jungle.

"The Night of the Lord of Limbo"
We actually just watched this last Saturday morning! :rommie:

Abu the Magnificent (Ricardo Montalban)
Mister Roarke, your host. Also, some frozen guy on Star Trek.

Jim heads to a vets' club in Vicksburg, where he tries to find out who "N.B.V." is and has to fight off a man named Scoffield (Felice Orlandi) who wants to take the sword; following which the bartender (Davis Roberts) slips him a note with the names of Noel Bartley Vautrain and his manor.
And the many questions begin: If Scoffield works for Vautrain, why did he fight with Jim-- and who is the bartender and why did he want to slip him a note? And is Scoffield from the past brought forward, or is he from the present? I know, none of this was ever addressed-- unless I missed it. :rommie:

Jim exits into a wood, where he's with a man named Levering (Gregory Morton) who informs him that he's there to duel a Jack Maitland--who turns out to be Artie. The fencing duel commences, but is interrupted by a group of bandits who enter by shooting Levering. Jim and Artie disarm the bandits, but one of them shoots Artie, to have a saber thrown into him by Jim. As he dies, Jack maintains his character, clearly not knowing who Jim is.
There's a lot more than time travel going on here, and it's all arbitrary-- it really adds nothing to the plot.

He believes that by going back through time himself, he can regain his legs, and feels that Jim owes it to him to accompany him on the potentially hazardous journey.
Not too hazardous, since he's going back to his own house and has his own bunch of soldiers.

Jim feels that if there is a fourth dimension, he owes it to his country to conduct a threat assessment.
And since there is, from this point forward there is a government agency, or office of the Secret Service, dedicated to studying and weaponizing it.

Vautrain is younger now, his full beard replaced by a thin mustache...and while he's still sitting in a wheelchair, his legs have been restored, and he rises to enjoy walking downstairs.
So did they really travel through time, as their clothing and the wheelchair would suggest, or did their minds just travel back to their past bodies, as the lack of two Vautrains would suggest. If so, what happened when Jim and Artie disappeared from where they were at that time?

his desire to use his trip through time to win the war for the Confederacy.
He should have gone back further. :rommie:

Captain Scoffield and a couple of other soldiers appear
So did they travel through time at all, or were the ones in the future just survivors of the war who went to work for Vautrain as mercentaries?

Vautrain helps jog Jim's memory of how he commandeered the house as General Grant's aide.
Has that bit of personal history ever been mentioned before?

Jim carries Artie upstairs through the Time Tunnel door, and the agents find themselves outside the manor...which for some reason is still burning seven years later, so that Jim can inform Amanda that her uncle is inside.
The flames traveled through time. :rommie: And is that time portal permanent? Did it remain in the rubble of the house, maybe persisting in the basement of whatever building was later built on the spot?

In addition to the lack of time travel logic, nobody in the episode even attempted a southern accent.
What a mess. Just a lot of weirdness for the sake of weirdness and not even a token attempt to have it make any sense. They should have stuck to Steampunk.

LeBeau, eavesdropping on the office to find out what Burkhalter brought, is outraged to the point of tears
He was hoping it was "Luncheon on the Grass." :rommie: Seriously, though, this is a great bit of characterization for LeBeau and a nice reference to the massive art thefts that occurred during the war.

then Hogan suggests a scheme for him and LeBeau to travel to Paris with Schultz
After all, they haven't been there in a couple of weeks.

Hogan and LeBeau drop in, LeBeau inspects the painting, and confirms that it's a forgery...claiming that sources back home have told him the original was already taken by Goering and replaced.
Aside from the ease with which they travel back and forth to Paris, this was a good episode.

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The failed joke was that wanderlust is a German word-- but it looks nothing like a German word. :rommie:

Or just reveal that the Professor was evil all along...
Whoa, that's way too 80s. :(

Defeated R'as al Ghul, took over his criminal organization to repurpose for humanitarian purposes, and used the Lazarus Pit.
Oh, yeah, that rings a bell. Ra's al Ghul is another character I know little about, other than he's a major Bats villain.
 
50 years ago this week, the Beatles are back at the top of the US album chart with the compilation double LP 1967–1970, a.k.a. the Blue Album.

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(Replacing Houses of the Holy, no less.)

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Great. Now nobody can have him.
But Ginger saved Mary Ann from the Professor putting his brain in her!

Maybe Ginger was going to rehearsal after the three-hour tour and still had it in her purse.
Any attempt at logic about what the castaways do or don't have with them on the island is long blown at this point.

Don't forget Mrs Howell's Kung Fu moves. They should have made her sheriff.
Judo.

They could have used this when the Howells needed to get married. And something else. Wasn't there another legal issue that came up?
Can't recall.

This would have been a great opportunity to name a name for a little continuity.
Could just be somebody got loose lips while drunk, or gave an anonymous tip in order not to implicate themselves.

Especially if they were looking for it. But the hut area is small and the huts themselves would look like vegetation from above-- at least from straight up. I guess it would depend how high the plane is and if the angle of the trees hides the bamboo walls. You'd think it would at least give the impression of something organized in the randomness of the jungle.
They've also got an outdoor dinner table and recliners and whatnot...and firepits when the story calls for it.

We actually just watched this last Saturday morning! :rommie:
I just recorded this and the next episode from Me in the last few weeks...I'd missed them in last year's Decades Binge. The four after that were leftover recordings from last year that I watched and wrote up last month before they expired. (Watching these and my handful of remaining, contemporaneous Get Smart episodes, which are now about to start expiring, was actually the beginning of my hiatus season viewing, before I started Honey West.) Once I'm through those WWW write-ups, I'll be ahead of the weekly Me airings, so I'll have to let the recordings gather and come back to them later.

And the many questions begin: If Scoffield works for Vautrain, why did he fight with Jim-- and who is the bartender and why did he want to slip him a note? And is Scoffield from the past brought forward, or is he from the present? I know, none of this was ever addressed-- unless I missed it. :rommie:
You missed nothing. I was assuming the simplest explanation, that Scoffield and crew were being seen in the two different periods, rather than traveling through time, for lack of any indication to the contrary. And maybe the bartender had a score to settle with these alleged southerners who didn't talk like southerners.

There's a lot more than time travel going on here, and it's all arbitrary-- it really adds nothing to the plot.
Yeah...no attempt at handwaving an explanation for Artie's assumed persona, or how Jim crossed his path before he arrived, leading to the duel. Possibly all hypnotically implanted memories from Vautrain or something. I wasn't clear on exactly what the period was, either. Looked later than colonial times, closer to the present of the show.

And since there is, from this point forward there is a government agency, or office of the Secret Service, dedicated to studying and weaponizing it.
But Jim and Artie chose not to report it. (If they did, they should take it directly to Grant. That'll get him off the wagon.)

So did they really travel through time, as their clothing and the wheelchair would suggest, or did their minds just travel back to their past bodies, as the lack of two Vautrains would suggest. If so, what happened when Jim and Artie disappeared from where they were at that time?
None of this is even briefly explained or addressed.

He should have gone back further. :rommie:
He was, first and foremost, trying to change the incident in which he lost his legs.

Has that bit of personal history ever been mentioned before?
Not that I can recall.

The flames traveled through time. :rommie: And is that time portal permanent? Did it remain in the rubble of the house, maybe persisting in the basement of whatever building was later built on the spot?
The portal was in an upstairs room, so it would be hard to get to without the house there; or was possibly destroyed with its infrastructure in this dimension gone.

What a mess. Just a lot of weirdness for the sake of weirdness and not even a token attempt to have it make any sense. They should have stuck to Steampunk.
And I noticed a complete lack of Wild West gadgetry among all this.

After all, they haven't been there in a couple of weeks.
Indeed! :lol:

Oh, yeah, that rings a bell. Ra's al Ghul is another character I know little about, other than he's a major Bats villain.
I realized in this coming up that I've been missing some classic O'Neil/Adams Batman in my last couple of years of comics reading, for not having the issues or reprints. I used to have a treasury edition with the first few Ra's appearances back in the day. He was a bit heavy for me when I was in my single digits. Looking it up, it seems that Joker's classic Bronze Age revival appearance is in the next month or two.
 
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50 years ago this week, the Beatles are back at the top of the US album chart with the compilation double LP 1967–1970, a.k.a. the Blue Album.
Nice batch o' stuff. "Something" is possibly my favorite Beatles tune. Not only is it great, but it's a real time travel song.

But Ginger saved Mary Ann from the Professor putting his brain in her!
"He was going to steal her brain! You've got to believe me! He was going to steal her BRAIN!"

Any attempt at logic about what the castaways do or don't have with them on the island is long blown at this point.
That's very true. :rommie:

She has a Black Belt in Feng Shui. She can rearrange your face.

Could just be somebody got loose lips while drunk, or gave an anonymous tip in order not to implicate themselves.
True. That would be consistent with the Don Rickles character.

They've also got an outdoor dinner table and recliners and whatnot...and firepits when the story calls for it.
Yeah, there's that table. I kind of got the impression that the recliners were in a separate clearing, but the table implies a lot of open space.

You missed nothing. I was assuming the simplest explanation, that Scoffield and crew were being seen in the two different periods, rather than traveling through time, for lack of any indication to the contrary.
Yeah, it was such a short time span that there would not necessarily be any signs of an age difference-- same with Jim and Artie.

And maybe the bartender had a score to settle with these alleged southerners who didn't talk like southerners.
That was just some random trope that they threw in for the hell of it. :rommie:

Yeah...no attempt at handwaving an explanation for Artie's assumed persona, or how Jim crossed his path before he arrived, leading to the duel. Possibly all hypnotically implanted memories from Vautrain or something. I wasn't clear on exactly what the period was, either. Looked later than colonial times, closer to the present of the show.
It almost seemed like a scenario conjured up by magic rather than actual time travel. Actually, come to think of it, the only way this episode makes sense is if Vautrain had really mastered Mandrake-like powers of illusion, but just convinced himself it was time travel in his despair.

But Jim and Artie chose not to report it. (If they did, they should take it directly to Grant. That'll get him off the wagon.)
Good point. It does seem rather contradictory, given his concerns about national security. Maybe Jim just had a problem with that random officer.

The portal was in an upstairs room, so it would be hard to get to without the house there; or was possibly destroyed with its infrastructure in this dimension gone.
The most likely outcome is that it vanished when Vautrain died.

And I noticed a complete lack of Wild West gadgetry among all this.
Yeah, this was really a bizarre episode.
 
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Post-55th Anniversary Viewing

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Gilligan's Island
"Take a Dare"
Originally aired January 2, 1967
IMDb said:
A game show contestant comes to the island and can win $10,000 if he can survive one week without outside assistance, so he refuses to let the castaways use his transmitter because he would have to forfeit the prize.

Gilligan and the Skipper listen on the radio about contestant George Barkley being dropped on a deserted island as a challenge for the titular game show. When they leave their buckets of fish unattended, Barkley (Strother Martin, not long before his role in Cool Hand Luke) sneaks up and takes them. At his camp, he fries them up in a pan and eats them at a table with silverware and plates, though he's supposed to only have his transmitter and the clothes on his back. It turns out that he stole these things and a hammock from the castaways as well. (Not a single luxury, indeed!) While looking for monkeys who may have stolen the goods, Gilligan and the Skipper come upon Barkley reclining on the hammock at his camp, living in relative luxury while playing up his hardship for the show. Skipper commandeers the radio, but not before Barkley removes a vital but unidentified part that's conveniently clipped to the outside, as the Professor discovers when he examines the set.

The Professor can't get the radio to work without the part, so the Howells offer to pay off Barkley, but he assumes that their money is fake. Then Ginger tries her wiles, but Barkley wants that payment up-front. Barkley and the transmitter disappear, and the castaways hear him broadcasting on the radio again. Gilligan and the Skipper find him using the transmitter on a cliffside and go up, being heard by the radio announcer yelling things as they approach. Skipper and Gilligan chatter everything into the mic without bothering to stop for any confirmation that they've gotten through, and then we see that Barkley disconnected the mic. (This is the point where the episode sinks to beyond stupid in its contrivance.) The Skipper and Gilligan learn that they've been tricked only when Howell, who was listening to the radio, tells them what he heard. They find Barkley again, but he tosses the radio off the cliff, smashing it. The castaways all stand watch on different parts of the island looking for the boat that will pick Barkley up, but he gets picked up by helicopter.

The castaways listen on the radio as Barkley gets his comeuppance, when he's informed that his $10,000 was hidden in a secret panel in the transmitter. In the coda, Gilligan and the Skipper are fishing for the $10,000, but Mr. Howell finds it while washing his money.

Really, all the castaways had to do was confine Barkley until somebody came to pick him up. There's another "Sorry about that, Chief" gag, this time from Gilligan.

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"The Night of the Tottering Tontine"
Originally aired January 6, 1967
Wiki said:
West and Gordon are assigned to protect Dr. Raven, who is developing a secret weapon and also a member of a tontine, an investment group whose bylaws state that the last surviving member of the group will receive the group's assets.

Jim's minding Dr. Raven (Harry Townes) in a bustling town (I get the impression it's supposed to be Frisco) when a friend named Martin Dexter (Michael Road) recommends a nearby tobacconist to Raven. West notices a wire leading into the shop and saves Raven from the store exploding as they approach. Jim traces the wire to find Dexter at the TNT plunger...with a knife in his back. Dexter was a member of Raven's titular group, which is explained a bit later and has recently lost two other members. Jim and Artie proceed to escort Raven to Monterey, where another mishap involving a tree being blasted down occurs on the road, injuring Artie's arm. At their destination, they hit a saloon where Raven meets up with another member of the group, Harry Stimson (Steve Gravers), a notorious gunslinger who talks in a cavalier fashion about how Raven being killed would leave six members to go...only to become the next victim when he tries to demonstrate his prowess with a six-shooter that's been rigged to backfire.

With Artie in the role of Raven's secretary, Angus MacGordon, the trio proceed to the meeting place, the seaside manor of cattle baron Martin Grevely (Robert Emhardt), which is protected by an electrically rigged door. The other assembled members include stage actress Amelia Maitland (Lisa Pera); a banker named Applegate (Arthur Space); heavyweight pugilist Gunther Pearse (Wilhelm von Homburg); Maurice, the former Archduke of Voldofia (Henry Darrow); and mystery author Edward Baring (William Wintersole). As the group take their seats to get down to business, Applegate is taken out by a dagger that springs from the back of his chair. The group find that a malfunctioning trick wall has trapped them in the manor, relatively speaking (there are windows). When Jim suggests that Amelia could be a murderer, he's attacked by Pearse and takes him out in brutal brawl. Then Applegate's body, which was taken down into the cellar, pops up again at the cellar door. Jim goes down to investigate and is knocked out by a trio of hooded figures, who tie him to a rail sled with rockets attached to it which threatens to fire him out of the side of the cliff that the manor is perched upon.

In true villainous fashion, the hooded ones leave Jim to his fate, giving him the opportunity to pull a dropper of acid from his boot heel to loosen his bonds enough that he manages to roll off the platform after it gets underway. He fights his way out of the cellar through the hooded types one by one, by which point the various members have gathered from their rooms, having heard the commotion of the rocket sled. Artie dramatically unmuttonchops himself to reveal that he's really Jim's partner, underscoring how pointless the disguise was in the first place. When Jim asks Grevely about the underground rail, the host indicates that the now-dead Dexter was the manor's architect. Amelia offers to conduct a seance to consult an Egyptian king regarding the identity of the murderer among them. Everyone hears the king's voice addressing Amelia, and Jim tosses her crystal ball out the window just before it explodes. She flees down to the cellar, followed by Pearse, who's shot by a gun poking out of a large wine barrel. Jim proceeds through a door that he finds in the barrel into a hidden catacomb, and ends up trapped in a steel room with a spiked wall closing in on him.

Jim uses his sleeve pistol to fire an explosive round into the ceiling above and climbs out on the spikes. After a confrontation with Maurice while packing to leave, Baring's attention is drawn by a music box melody to a falling book that bears the title The Death of Edward Baring and a bit of copper wiring on the spine, which electrocutes him when opened. Meanwhile, Jim follows one of the hooded figures out of the cellar and attacks and unhoods him to reveal...Martin Dexter. Before the assembled guests, the agents share their deduction that Dexter borrowed a trick from one of Baring's novels about a man who killed his twin brother to fake his own death; and that because Dexter was believed to be dead, he had to have an accomplice in the tontine to collect, upon which Amelia pulls out a derringer. Dexter attacks Jim with a broadsword to back him through a revolving bookshelf panel into a little danger room of his design, in which Jim evades both a set of wall-mounted machine guns and a contraption with whirling spiked blades that lowers from the ceiling. When Dexter tries to check on him, Jim slips out and forces him in, where he's impaled on one of the blades; while Artie disarms Amelia.

In the train coda, Jim and Artie use a trick crystal ball to scare a couple of female guests into their arms (a little too easily).

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Hogan's Heroes
"The General Swap"
Originally aired January 6, 1967
IMDb said:
Col. Hogan is less than thrilled when he is assigned to help an obnoxious American general flee Stalag 13 - and the secret plan, involving a prisoner swap, winds up as trying and difficult as the arrogant escapee himself.

The prisoners are swapping an outgoing POW named Houlihan (uncredited) for an incoming one via the tunnel when they hear sirens outside and see what appears to be a VIP prisoner being brought in via an armored truck and heavy guard. Hogan manipulates Klink into boasting of how he now has a general for a prisoner, and volunteering that Field Marshal von Heinke will be visiting because of it. Meanwhile, Kinch has learned from London that the prisoner is Gen. Aloysius Barton, chief of all daylight bombing, and that they want him sprung at all costs. Hogan slips a general's rank on another incoming POW to sew doubt in Klink and make him take Hogan to cooler to see Barton (Frank Gerstle), who recognizes Hogan as former commander of the 504th and considers him a "crummy traitor" for not having attempted to escape for two years. (This would indicate that it has to be at least 1944, and that's if Hogan got captured in the infancy of American bombing of Germany.) A none-too-pleased Hogan is entertaining Kinch's assertion that with the field marshal coming the next day, the prisoners have no choice but to free Barton via laying down their lives in a direct attack, when he gets the idea to arrange a prisoner swap by capturing von Heinke.

The prisoners don their commando gear to waylay von Heinke's staff car and nab him (John Myhers), leading his driver to believe that they're British commandos. Then they stuff him in the trunk of the car and sneak him back out at the stalag under Klink's nose while Klink is preoccupied with the abduction. They then disassemble part of an American bomber fuselage that's at the stalag for some reason and reassemble it down in the tunnel, where their mission, which they choose to accept, is to rig it up as a simulator to make von Heinke think he's being flown back to England. Bringing him blindfolded into Hogan's office, redressed to make him think it's an English POW camp, Hogan radios the stalag to arrange the exchange. Klink recognizes Hogan's voice, so Hogan has to slip out and back into his prisoner garb to put in an appearance in Klink's office, while Newkirk takes over the radio negotiations doing his Churchill impersonation. The exchange is arranged, with von Heinke to be released by the underground. As Barton is being taken out, Newkirk gets a private word in with the general about Hogan's setup, eliciting a farewell salute from Barton to Hogan.

In the coda, Klink shares his suspicions about the affair with Hogan, and Hogan agrees, suggesting that it was a set-up by Goering and Himmler to get rid of von Heinke, which motivates Klink to keep his silence about it.

De-nied!

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Nice batch o' stuff.
Yet my mind boggles that whoever put together the full track listing couldn't find anything on Sgt. Pepper, the White Album, Abbey Road, or even Let It Be worthier of inclusion than fucking "Old Brown Shoe"...!

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True. That would be consistent with the Don Rickles character.
You're really hung up on redeeming Don Rickles... :lol:

That was just some random trope that they threw in for the hell of it. :rommie:
Of course, Vautrain wanted Jim to find him, so it could be that the entire situation was tailored to pique Jim's curiosity.

It almost seemed like a scenario conjured up by magic rather than actual time travel. Actually, come to think of it, the only way this episode makes sense is if Vautrain had really mastered Mandrake-like powers of illusion, but just convinced himself it was time travel in his despair.
That would actually mostly make more sense (while still leaving some plot holes), had the episode only sewn some seed of doubt in that direction.

Good point. It does seem rather contradictory, given his concerns about national security. Maybe Jim just had a problem with that random officer.
He just didn't think anyone would believe it; and was proven right when Artie started to tell the truth and saw the colonel's reaction.
 
Yet my mind boggles that whoever put together the full track listing couldn't find anything on Sgt. Pepper, the White Album, Abbey Road, or even Let It Be worthier of inclusion than fucking "Old Brown Shoe"...!

Allen Klein put the albums together based on his own personal preferences. John Lennon was unhappy that they chose the wrong mixes for some of the songs. Ringo Starr didn't have any kind words to say about the collections 'Rock 'n' Roll' and 'Love Songs'.
 
Gilligan and the Skipper listen on the radio about contestant George Barkley being dropped on a deserted island as a challenge for the titular game show.
So much for "uncharted" desert isle.

he's supposed to only have his transmitter and the clothes on his back.
Thank goodness they didn't have Naked and Afraid in those days. :rommie:

Skipper commandeers the radio, but not before Barkley removes a vital but unidentified part that's conveniently clipped to the outside
The power pack. Later versions would be used on Environmental Control Robots.

The castaways all stand watch on different parts of the island looking for the boat that will pick Barkley up, but he gets picked up by helicopter.
Which also should have seen the clearing and huts.

Gilligan and the Skipper are fishing for the $10,000, but Mr. Howell finds it while washing his money.
Money magnet. :rommie:

Really, all the castaways had to do was confine Barkley until somebody came to pick him up.
Seriously. They waited this long.

Jim's minding Dr. Raven
Have their been previous attempts on his life? What's his importance to the Secret Service?

Raven's secretary, Angus MacGordon
...MacTavish Dundee? :rommie:

As the group take their seats to get down to business
What's the business? How did this eclectic group ever get together in the first place? If the subject of the meeting is group members being killed, getting together in one place to talk about it is probably the worst idea ever. :rommie:

Jim goes down to investigate and is knocked out by a trio of hooded figures, who tie him to a rail sled with rockets attached to it which threatens to fire him out of the side of the cliff that the manor is perched upon.
Because none of them thought to bring a gun. :rommie:

Amelia offers to conduct a seance to consult an Egyptian king regarding the identity of the murderer among them.
"Hello, Amenhotep speaking. What? How the hell would I know?"

Jim proceeds through a door that he finds in the barrel into a hidden catacomb, and ends up trapped in a steel room with a spiked wall closing in on him.
Clearly the killer needs the Tontine money to pay off the loan he took out to pay for all the death traps.

When Dexter tries to check on him, Jim slips out and forces him in, where he's impaled on one of the blades; while Artie disarms Amelia.
Sounds like everybody's dead, except Amelia and two hooded figures. :rommie:

In the train coda, Jim and Artie use a trick crystal ball to scare a couple of female guests into their arms (a little too easily).
It's all a dance. :rommie:

they hear sirens outside and see what appears to be a VIP prisoner being brought in via an armored truck and heavy guard.
Why the sirens, I wonder.

Gen. Aloysius Barton, chief of all daylight bombing
Is that really a thing? :rommie:

who recognizes Hogan as former commander of the 504th and considers him a "crummy traitor" for not having attempted to escape for two years.
Ouch.

(This would indicate that it has to be at least 1944, and that's if Hogan got captured in the infancy of American bombing of Germany.)
And so much for the "all-in-one-Winter" premise.

They then disassemble part of an American bomber fuselage that's at the stalag for some reason and reassemble it down in the tunnel, where their mission, which they choose to accept, is to rig it up as a simulator to make von Heinke think he's being flown back to England.
It's like Cheyenne Mountain down there!

Bringing him blindfolded into Hogan's office, redressed to make him think it's an English POW camp, Hogan radios the stalag to arrange the exchange.
I'm thinking it would probably take days, at least, to relocate him to England. Did they account for that at all?

Klink recognizes Hogan's voice, so Hogan has to slip out and back into his prisoner garb to put in an appearance in Klink's office
Another Eva Grub situation. :rommie:

As Barton is being taken out, Newkirk gets a private word in with the general about Hogan's setup, eliciting a farewell salute from Barton to Hogan.
That's a nice touch.

You're really hung up on redeeming Don Rickles... :lol:
I hadn't thought about it, but maybe. :rommie:

Of course, Vautrain wanted Jim to find him, so it could be that the entire situation was tailored to pique Jim's curiosity.
Good point. That's consistent with him leaving the sword as a clue.

He just didn't think anyone would believe it; and was proven right when Artie started to tell the truth and saw the colonel's reaction.
The colonel was another random and atypical plot element-- he treated Jim and Artie pretty poorly for top-tier agents.
 
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