Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

[Macintosh]

Doug has posted clear renders of the model. The model on the Eaglemoss cover I think is the original model as well.

I'm going to respond to this using words other people have sent to me when I've quoted from the Star Trek: The Next Generation Technical Manual: Production team intent isn't canon. Details that aren't visible on camera in an episode aren't canon. Doug Drexler posting it on Facebook doesn't make it canon.

Also – this is hardly the first time an Enterprise has been visually reimagined, is it? These are all supposed to be exactly the same ship after all:

No.

Yes.

I don't remember his exact wording and the post has been pulled as far as I can tell), but would've liked it presented in the context of being a special ability/illustration, not a retcon of the design.

How do we know it isn't a special ability and we're just seeing the Enterprise-J using "transparent mode", as opposed to "opaque mode" reserved for red alert situations etc?

 

[Christmas Canon Spock]

Because of time travel the J doesn't exist.

 

[Tuskin38]

The Vesta Class was almost in Picard

https://twitter.com/yard2380/status/1654529395862675456

https://twitter.com/yard2380/status/1654868052113084419?s=46&t=GJ4lIGndtLwuph_LJO2AJw

 

[C.E. Evans]

Because of time travel the J doesn't exist.

Not necessarily. We can say that the Enterprise-J won't be fighting the Sphere Builders in the future, but she may still wind up being built.

 

[Tuskin38]

The Universe class is Schrödinger's starship

 

[Christmas Canon Spock]

Not necessarily. We can say that the Enterprise-J won't be fighting the Sphere Builders in the future, but she may still wind up being built.

Dream crusher.

 

[Tuskin38]

The Queen's cube is 25KM, not counting the antennae.
https://twitter.com/esdi/status/1654944472109821952?t=M1spwae8mpKHIdyMGzbG5g&s=19

 

[Markonian]

The Queen's cube is 25KM, not counting the antennae.
https://twitter.com/esdi/status/1654944472109821952?t=M1spwae8mpKHIdyMGzbG5g&s=19

That's really big.

 

[Gepard]

He did say he didn't mind the idea of the hull turning transparent (or the image being presented as a cut-away, I don't remember his exact wording and the post has been pulled as far as I can tell), but would've liked it presented in the context of being a special ability/illustration, not a retcon of the design. He didn't like the saucer being thickened up, but I think that's a reasonable adjustment to the excessively flat original, especially if you're doing to be seeing through it and need some sense of depth.

You think he'd understand the necessity of revising a design that was slapped together in a matter of hours. Especially when the only on-screen appearance was blurry and unclear.

 

[David cgc]

The Vesta Class was almost in Picard

https://twitter.com/yard2380/status/1654529395862675456

https://twitter.com/yard2380/status/1654868052113084419?s=46&t=GJ4lIGndtLwuph_LJO2AJw

I'm glad that came back, I saw Mark tweet about it a few days ago, but it also disappeared before I could download it. PIC must have some kind of rolling BTS approval/embargo thing.

 

[Noname On A Naughty List]

But, but…the Discoprise is right there. Right in front of you. Because they’re the same ship. Or so we’re supposed to believe.

BTW, what ship is that directly behind the Enterprise-E/Sovereign? And what ship is between the nuStargazer and the NX-01?

Hey if the Refit 1701 (From ST:TMP) is the same ship...

 

[David cgc]

Hey if the Refit 1701 (From ST:TMP) is the same ship...

It's all very straightforward (not my meme, but so useful):

 

[Sketcher]

The Enterprise is a flux capacitor?? I knew it....

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

It's the same ship......

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[NCC-73515]

Also – this is hardly the first time an Enterprise has been visually reimagined, is it? These are all supposed to be exactly the same ship after all:

prime 2266 vs kelvin timeline 2258 vs prime 2259

 

[Macintosh]

prime 2266 vs kelvin timeline 2258 vs prime 2259

So the 1701 can look radically different in different timelines and at different points in its life but the 1701-J can't?

(Though I think we all know that there's no way the SNW Enterprise is going to wind up looking like the TOS Enterprise...)

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

So the 1701 can look radically different in different timelines and at different points in its life but the 1701-J can't?

(Though I think we all know that there's no way the SNW Enterprise is going to wind up looking like the TOS Enterprise...)

For all we know, the J that we saw an image of was designed like it was because of the ongoing war with the Sphere Builders™. Wasn't it that big so as to take people to another galaxy? No Sphere Builders™, no need for that particular ship design.

Even if we ever get to an Enterprise J in Star Trek, no reason to think they'll be handcuffed to that design.

 

[Sketcher]

I just assumed the J has a battle armor mode when up against enemies, such as Sphere Builders.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I just assumed the J has a battle armor mode when up against enemies, such as Sphere Builders.

Sure. It's actually the size of a runabout normally

 

[Santa Kang]

I just assumed the J has a battle armor mode when up against enemies, such as Sphere Builders.

Stark-Class.