Am I the Only One Who Desperately Craves a Captain Shaw Series?

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  1. Danja

    Danja Commodore Commodore

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    Shaw appeals to that section of the fandom that says, "Yep, dat dem der Shaw's a REAL man!" :shifty:
     
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  2. fireproof78

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    21st century dipshit in the 25th century.
     
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  3. Turd Ferguson

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    They could go the Battlestar Galactica route with Seven/Shaw like they did with Baltar and Six, and have Shaw pop in inconveniently every now and then and nag Seven :lol: It could even be explained Seven tried rescuing him with nanoprobes, but he still died, and some of his consciousness was transferred to Seven's brain
     
  4. Citiprime

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    I think the appeal of the Shaw character is similar to why people liked Miles O'Brien. He's a regular person, with flawed attitudes, but down deep is a decent guy who is highly competent at certain things and probably cares more than he's willing to show.

    For whatever reason, whether because of selfishness about his own trauma or he thought "tough love" was an appropriate training tool, Shaw believed giving Seven of Nine crap was better than developing a good relationship and showing openness to accepting her as "Seven." Given how we've seen captain-first officer relationships go in Star Trek (i.e., Kirk-Spock, Picard-Riker, etc.) that's a very flawed way of handling things, but it's relatable in how flawed people deal with things in a flawed way.

    As far as him coming back, this is science-fiction. So mirror-universe counterpart, brought back to life by Q-level being, etc., is on the table.
     
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  5. Sci

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    And... how is that any different from Raffi or Rios? They both seem like regular people with flawed attitudes who deep down are decent, highly competent at certain things, and probably care more than they're willing to show.
     
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  6. Citiprime

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    Possibly the acting and the writing with Shaw came off better with the Picard audience than with Rios and Raffi?

    I thought Rios and Raffi had good moments and scenes during the first 2 seasons (e.g., Michelle Hurd was great when she attempts to meet her son again for the first time), but overall I don't think they worked as well because the writing was slapdash in supporting their characterization.

    Yes, Rios is a similar personality type, but it's also tacked onto to a Han Solo-ish rogue persona in the first season that's never fully realized. And then season 2 begins and all of his regrets and problems with having been through a disaster in Starfleet are fixed enough for him to be back in a uniform with his own command.
     
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  7. fireproof78

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    It's hilarious the justification made for Shaw but other more realistic characters are considered unevolved.
     
  8. Avro Arrow

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    How they bring Shaw back in Legacy:

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  9. Ovation

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    True. Elmer has a terrible shot.
     
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    Wait, can I like all three of them? I like all three of them.
     
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  11. Danja

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    I thought that was Q's job? :shifty:
     
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  12. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Head Shaw, In Seven’s head of course.
     
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  13. Paul755

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    I dunno how reading thru this thread you get this reaction.
     
  14. shapeshifter

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    Waaaay late here but getting back to the OP question; Shaw is dead.

    And while I understand that could only be a temporary condition, I have had my fill of resurrections.

    I know how it feels for a favorite character to be killed off, I have dealt with that too but they should not not stretch Treks credibility any further in this regard, for now. Let's let the dead rest in peace, again, for a while.
     
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